Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.

If JC was that wide and had his chin so far open against Carl Froch he would have got KTFO !!!!!!!!!!

anyway, dissapointed RJJ was so shit, JC hopefully will face carl if he beats pascal

118-109 on all 3 score cards a complete joke why didn't Roy hit him when he was clowning about was beyond me i think Calzaghe was meant to win Roy never fought as though he wanted it really the fight was a joke and the scores were crazy.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

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In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

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I do and your shittin me.

Calazaghe won , end of story , was a scrappy fight ,

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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Calazaghe won , end of story , was a scrappy fight ,

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Al pm mate

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Originally Posted by ICB

I honestly couldn't watch it all, it was like i was watching a glorifed sparring session. And a dancing show all at once, first off RJJ's performance uhh where the hell was it ?

He would just throw single punches all the time, and just allow Joe Calzaghe too hold his hands down when he is 2 inches away from him. I was screaming at the screen just bloody hit him RJJ for goodness sake.

Joe Calzaghe was so wide open i can't believe RJJ didn't take those openings, and secondly all of Joe Calzaghes taunting was just ridiculous. It was like watching a clown in the ring, he done it in every round and in every minute of the round.

And the action was like a sparring session, RJJ would hit Joe Calzaghe with single punches every now and again. And then Joe Calzaghe would come wadding in landing mostly slapping punches to the body.

This may sound like sour grapes but im very disappointed, in both boxers. RJJ didn't even try to win the fight after the 1st round, and Joe Calzaghe's constant taunting dancing whatever you want to call it. Was just ridiculous to watch, this fight was not a good fight for boxing at all a disgrace IMO.

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Truth is Jones just can't pull the trigger anymore...It happens to fighters of his style when they reach a certain age...Fighters that rely on speed and combos...Happened to Ali, Happened to SRR, happened to Leonard....

That is the one bad thing about fighters who are unconventional...

Truth is Calzaghe is showing signs of age himself since the Kessler fight....He is sloppy at times and often smothers himself trying too hard....

It was a dissapointing fight yes but then again maybe people were looking to see the RJJ and Calzaghe of 2000 in there tonight not 2 guys at the twilight of their careers....


I hope both retire now....They both have made their legacy's and there is nothing left for them really

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

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In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

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The version of Hopkins that showed up for the Pavlik fight is pretty damn good and I don't see anyone beating him including Calzaghe....If that version showed up

Lopve him or hate him Calzaghe won and he deserves credit for his victories but lets not get too worked up about him to the point you start sounding as stupid as his taunting looked

I dont think it was a discraceful fight . Some of Joes taunting was distasteful but he was simply doing what Jones has been doing to his undermatched opponents for the last decade

Great win by Joe. He proved his superiority in the other guys backyard

Thats what gets to forums more than anything after a big fight,name calling of other posters and using the fight and the fact that you called it as some form of a fantasy advancement scheme. It looks like pulling others down just to climb over them.

Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.

Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'

The answer was no. Simple as.

They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.

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Originally Posted by miles

It was a decent fight.

Jones Jr. was in over his head though. Once Calzaghe made his adjustments there was little Jones could do.

My only qualm with the fight was Calzaghes showboating. There was too much of it. Stop posing and just throw your punches!! Thats what people like to see Calzaghe do, and to not do that and just go overboard with the posing was a bit irritating.

You can't help but feel there was too much respect from Joe in terms of not going all out to overwhelm Jones. He could have thrown a lot more. But at the same time all that showboating was itself disrespectful.

Like a cat pawing at a toy and doing a little jiggle each time it makes its pounce.

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id say more annoying than decent. All that clowning shit really pissed me off, i was hoping with this being maybe his last fight he would keep his hands up and fight like he did long ago when he actualy had an interest in boxing and wanted to win in style. Can see now he is clearly 100% bored of the sport and can't be bothered to keep the focus during a fight like he used to, it's all fun and games with him now since the kessler fight, sad. I hope this is it for him unless he fights Dawson and wants to go out in real style, not that shit he pulled last night, i think he could of stopped Roy if he kept his head down and didn;t stop giving 100%...

Bad thing is people now look at that like thatis his best, when when he wanted to fight he put on much greater shows, see Lacy, see Kessler... now fighitng guys like Hopkins, Roy, guys whom in his head he has already beaten before they get in the ring with hi, he puts on dodgy shows like that.

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

118-109 on all 3 score cards a complete joke why didn't Roy hit him when he was clowning about was beyond me i think Calzaghe was meant to win Roy never fought as though he wanted it really the fight was a joke and the scores were crazy.

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watch the fight again, he tried early to hit him when he dropped his hands and stuck his chin out, after missing 5 times he give up not wanting that to go through out the fight.

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Originally Posted by ICB

I honestly couldn't watch it all, it was like i was watching a glorifed sparring session. And a dancing show all at once, first off RJJ's performance uhh where the hell was it ?

He would just throw single punches all the time, and just allow Joe Calzaghe too hold his hands down when he is 2 inches away from him. I was screaming at the screen just bloody hit him RJJ for goodness sake.

Joe Calzaghe was so wide open i can't believe RJJ didn't take those openings, and secondly all of Joe Calzaghes taunting was just ridiculous. It was like watching a clown in the ring, he done it in every round and in every minute of the round.

And the action was like a sparring session, RJJ would hit Joe Calzaghe with single punches every now and again. And then Joe Calzaghe would come wadding in landing mostly slapping punches to the body.

This may sound like sour grapes but im very disappointed, in both boxers. RJJ didn't even try to win the fight after the 1st round, and Joe Calzaghe's constant taunting dancing whatever you want to call it. Was just ridiculous to watch, this fight was not a good fight for boxing at all a disgrace IMO.

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You beat me to making this thread. I'm glad I wasn't the only person utterly sickened by both of their performances in this fight.

I feel like a mug for ever thinking up all of the possible scenario's that could happen in this fight when Roy clearly had the fight mapped out from the day he signed the contract.

JC is also the most unlikable piece of shit in and out of the ring. His arrogance is delusional and I felt nauseous by the shit he pulled in this fight with no response from Jones who seemed to just find it funny that he was getting the piss taken out of him.

I wish he took his legacy more seriously because he could have scalped Calzaghe tonight the way he fought those first 2 rounds...in fact he could have done him in one because Calzaghe was gasping for air when he was knocked down.

I feel so mugged off by this fight...by both Jones and JC. More dissapointed in Jones because I really believed he was hungry for his one last roll of the dice. He just didn't want to know.

I don't care if I get accused of sour grapes but Calzaghe has gone even lower in my estimation and this just proved to me how easy a prime RJ would have had it. RJ deserved to lose tonight though for the lack of respect he had for himself and his legacy. They can both go fuck themselves for making me stay up for this farce.

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Just utter crap...


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Well I'm glad you enjoyed the farcical circus show :rolleyes: I, however, value my time a little more

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Originally Posted by ono

Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.

Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'

The answer was no. Simple as.

They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.

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Exactly, Roy could do nothing more at his age. The fight was what it was, two aging greats where one had aged more than the other - and it NEVER was going to be anything else.

All last night showed is that we missed out on a possible brilliant match up which could have happened 2000-2003. Bilbo is spot on when he says that Joe would never give up and in that sense he genuinelly is a throwback, he wouldn't stand centr ring like a rabbit caught in headlights like Woods and all the other LHW defences. Roy would still be favourite but it would have been a hell of an entertaining fight against someone willing to put it all on the line.

The first round last night DID NOT prove that Roy would have schooled Joe in their primes (as some mentioned), and the subsequent 11 rounds DID NOT prove that Joe would have beaten Roy in their primes.

PS MarkusDarkus - stop being a TIT , last nights win is nothing to gloat about as it was to be expected, it didn't enhance Joe's career, it was only a payday. And in that regards ICE is right, it was a glorified sparring session, but in all honesty I don't think you could argue that it was ever advertised as anything different.

I personally didn't like the fight all that much, It kind of reminded me of Ali - Holmes.

I knew Jones had no chance from the beginning.

Joe did well and got the win but overall the win isn't that impressive considering Jones is clearly been past it for about 4-5 years now.

I just wish the fight happened when both were in their primes.