Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.

[Markusdarkus]

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

[intoccabile]

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

Are you an idiot?
Styles make fights and Hopkins is too elusive to ever be "destroyed" Joe couldn't finish a on the ropes zero offense shot fighter in Jones who didn't even "evade" shots. How on earth does he "demolish" a game Hopkins who already know he has to be more aggressive against Joe now.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

No matter how bad i want to see hopkins knocked out. I have come to realize that there ain't nobody that's gonna do it now. he has to be one of the best defensive fighters ever. He has to be right up there with "will 'o the wisp".

[Taeth]

I don't think he quite as hard to hit as Floyd Mayweather, but Bernard is a better inside fighter, and I think he is sneakier with that right hand.

[intoccabile]

I don't think he quite as hard to hit as Floyd Mayweather, but Bernard is a better inside fighter, and I think he is sneakier with that right hand.

I think he's harder to hit. Bhop can slip, force misses, and step around punches.
PBFs strong point is his rolling. Floyd parries and blocks alot of oncoming punches and rolls straights.

Bhop would rather not get hit at all whereas floyd wil take a shot in the arm or glove.

With bhop its like hitting wind and nothing but wind, then you are grabbed when you finally have a chance to connect.

With floyd.. You land punches that are rolled off his gloves and shoulders..but atleast you hit something lol.

[Taeth]

I will reiterate, Floyd is harder to hit cleanly. I think they have similar level of skill but Floyd is a better athlete with a little quicker reflexes p4p.

[intoccabile]

I will reiterate, Floyd is harder to hit cleanly. I think they have similar level of skill but Floyd is a better athlete with a little quicker reflexes p4p.

cant argue with that.
haven't seen anyone with floyds reflexes in a long time.

What makes floyd so great on top of that is he is a text book fighter.
He does everything by the book for the most part. And his offense doesn't consist of
combinations. He throws 1 punch at a time. There's always a pause in his combination.
He looks for the immediate opening before throwing another punch.. he's pretty brilliant.

[Andre]

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

I do and your shittin me.

[Dark Lord Al]

Calazaghe won , end of story , was a scrappy fight ,

[Tysonbruno]

Calazaghe won , end of story , was a scrappy fight ,

Al pm mate

[DaxxKahn]

Hopkins made Calzaghe look silly, Calzaghe couldn't land a damn thing against him, and Hopkins still had the reflexes to counter Joe with left hooks and right hands.

Calzaghe is a great fighter, he gets credit for that, but he fought guys way past their prime then he is. I said from the begining out of the three big fights coming up (Cazlaghe-jones, Hopkins-Pavlik, De La Hoya- Pacquaio), this was the biggest mismatch if we all saw it how did Joe do anything anybody didn't expect?

Also Bx70Ny, if you knew half as much as you think you do you would see that Joe didn't need to figure anything out, ROy didn't do anything. He landed when he threw punches as often as Joe did, but he hardly threw anything, Joe had difficulty landing cleanly for a lot of it, and he didn't prove anything with this fight except that he is pretty fast.

In fact largely Joe's whole style I don't even feel is all that much boxing, my brother who doesn't know much about boxing thought it looked like point sparring, because thats how he punches. I give him all the credit in the world for getting away with it, when I can't see anybody else getting away with it, but if thats all you have then you are in trouble agaisnt Roy Jones Jr or Hopkins or Toney in their prime.

Markus is being a complete douche bag.

In a a rematch Calzaghe would destroy Hopkins AND YET you would still get tools like you saying "But he didnt fight Dawson"

Who moderates these boards?

The version of Hopkins that showed up for the Pavlik fight is pretty damn good and I don't see anyone beating him including Calzaghe....If that version showed up

Lopve him or hate him Calzaghe won and he deserves credit for his victories but lets not get too worked up about him to the point you start sounding as stupid as his taunting looked

[GAME]

I dont think it was a discraceful fight . Some of Joes taunting was distasteful but he was simply doing what Jones has been doing to his undermatched opponents for the last decade

Great win by Joe. He proved his superiority in the other guys backyard

[Andre]

Thats what gets to forums more than anything after a big fight,name calling of other posters and using the fight and the fact that you called it as some form of a fantasy advancement scheme. It looks like pulling others down just to climb over them.