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Originally Posted by Taeth
those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.
If Floyd was ACTIVE then I would TTTRRRYYYYYYYYYYY to see some value in your remarks, the fact is Floyd dosent want to fight, has no interest in fighting anymore and really dosent care to... So as much as your feeling are hurt that he wont fight Shane because he's been retired for a year and a half and Shane turned down 2 fights with Floyd already, my advice is to get over it... I think its really Floyds choice on if he wants to continue or not and obviously is content with his place in boxing history, even though your not:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Honestly I didnt read the above statement based on your poor track record and history around here.. You clearly are a noviceQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Did this happen when Lewis left on top? Calling him a coward for ducking when he was really smart and just left while on top?
Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.
is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethCastillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.
Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.
And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....
And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.
Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?
If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.
guy please, lennox fought everybody there was to fight. every challenger they threw at him. He was smart in seeing that Vitaly was probably capable of beating him, so after he got W for cutting Vitaly he retired. Smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
I am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatheris this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethCastillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.
And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....
And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.
Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?
If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.
Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.
so you believe a fight with pac would better for PBF's legacy than a fight with Mosley?Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethI am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatheris this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.
And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....
And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.
Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?
If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.
Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.
He was either smart for not giving him an immediate rematch that the fans would pay to see or he was a coward for quickly avoiding him and calling it quits.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherguy please, lennox fought everybody there was to fight. every challenger they threw at him. He was smart in seeing that Vitaly was probably capable of beating him, so after he got W for cutting Vitaly he retired. Smart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
it could be. Shane is clearly the tougher opponent but Pac is #1p4p and has been climbing up the weight classes and if he kos hatton then he would have kod Floyds last 2 fighters he beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherso you believe a fight with pac would better for PBF's legacy than a fight with Mosley?Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethI am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.
Well he did ko hatton. If floyd comes back it wont be until next year cause he even said it himself so if Mosley doesnt lose to Cotto in the rematch if they have one then i would say fight Pac if he beats Hatton.
HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatheris this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethCastillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.
And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....
And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.
Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?
If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.
I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.
Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.
idiot.
dude give the guy a fucking break, i'm not even a Mayweather fan and yet i'm sick of all this thrashing, hell like someone else mentioned he hasn't said he's interested in fighting anyone, and hell for most of you nothing he does will be enough, he can come back beat Cotto, Mosley, and then Pacquiao, retire again and then some of you will still be bitching that he didn't fight Berto or Williams, get off the dudes back already
Floyd = chicken. Bottom line.
completely agree with you on that one ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatheris this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.
And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....
And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.
Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?
If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.
I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.
Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.
idiot.
32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.
The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"
There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.
And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"