floyd turns down Mosley....

[JonesJrMayweather]

That's what people said Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Hatton, and especially Oscar would do yet none of them came even close.

those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.

[Taeth]

That's what people said Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Hatton, and especially Oscar would do yet none of them came even close.

those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

[JonesJrMayweather]

That's what people said Corrales, Castillo, Judah, Hatton, and especially Oscar would do yet none of them came even close.

those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

[Taeth]

those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

I am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.

Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

I am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.

Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.

so you believe a fight with pac would better for PBF's legacy than a fight with Mosley?

[kingfrnk]

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

I am talking about Corrales at 130, and Castillo at 135 have more power than Mosley has at 147, look at their KO% at those weights. Castillo by the time he got to Hatton had destroyed his body by making lightweight for so long, he wasn't the same fighter that fought Mayweather. Also Mayweather was smaller, he would have had smaller neck muscles, etc. People gain in their ability to take a punch as they go up in weight because their body gets bigger, they spar with bigger guys who hit harder.

Obviously beating Cotto, Mosley, Pacquiao, Berto(if he beats some big name guys) would help Mayweather's legacy, but he doesn't want to do it unless its a big enough fight, he wants to have the big fights, but he wants the big money to do so, and he got it against Oscar and Ricky, and he would get it against Manny or Cotto, or Berto in a year or two. But from the 24/7's it looks like Mayweather training as hard as he does has taken its toll on his body. It also seems like the spot light was a big burden on him especially when he was hated to the degree he was on his tours. Even though he likes the attention I think that much attention stressed him out or seemed to, and that is likely why he took so much time off, and why he only wants big fights that will not only make him a ton of money, but also improve his legacy like fighting the Pacquiao-Hatton winner, or possibly the winner of Mosley-Cotto if they fight.

so you believe a fight with pac would better for PBF's legacy than a fight with Mosley?

it could be. Shane is clearly the tougher opponent but Pac is #1p4p and has been climbing up the weight classes and if he kos hatton then he would have kod Floyds last 2 fighters he beat.

Well he did ko hatton. If floyd comes back it wont be until next year cause he even said it himself so if Mosley doesnt lose to Cotto in the rematch if they have one then i would say fight Pac if he beats Hatton.

[RP33]

those people were insanely hoping thats what would happen...none of those guys possess the package mosley does. he's all of them combined. 50/50 SSM vs PBF with the tide rolling to shane.

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

[JonesJrMayweather]

Castillo, Corrales are not just more offensive fighters than Mosley, they possess the same p4p power he does at WW if not a lot more. Oscar hits harder than Mosley, he's quick, he's a better boxer(watch their second fight).

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

[JazMerkin]

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

I'm not saying he's ducking, I stand by the belief that he retired to protect his record. And as far people saying mosley ducked him, that's fine, but the last thing that happened with situation was shane asked him for a fight While he was still active, and he dismissed it to mosley looking for a payday. So....I won't officially say ducking until he comes back and fights pacman or hatton over mosley... esp if he fights Hatton. That's why i'm pulling for Hatton so then in term of legacy, mosley should be priority one for floyd. in terms of money then fight pac and stop crying about not getting full credit at the end of every fight...and say at least i made a lot of money.

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

1. True he did stop all of those guys, but they're also a group of guys with poor defensive skills, something you would expect a boxer of Mosley's calibre to take advantage of.

2. I don't see anyone saying Corrales is ducking a fighter now he's dead do you?

If you want to talk about a theoretical fight between Mayweather & Mosley fine, but I think people just think you should accept that as of now PBF is retired so is not ducking anyone. Also could you deal with the point about Mosley rejecting 2 fights with Mayweather before, as a number of posters have raised it but you haven't responded to that point, at least that I've read.

same with floyd...i.e baldomir and corely two guys that he hit at will and couldn't stop. but that's just being subjective and defending mosley.

Objectively i'd say baldoblaster has one of the toughest chins, hardest heads in the game, and floyd does have brittle hands so why risk injury when he could win the fight with pot shots. chop is just a tough contender.

[Taeth]

is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

Who did Mosley fight at lightweight? Holiday?

IN the first Vargas fight, the only thing he was doing to Vargas was swelling up his eye, and thats what stopped the fight, Vargas was walking right through his punches, in the second fight Vargas was so badly weightdrained a breeze could have blown him over.

Against Mayorga it took him 12 rounds before the KO came. The reason why MayweatherJonesJr is an idiot is that Mosley KO's came against guys who sucked at LW, he was really good, but they weren't. Also he hasn't ko'ed a valid opponent in his career since moving up. De La Hoya, Collazo, Wright, Forrest, even Miguel Cotto. He stunned Cotto once or twice, but never really hurt him at all, people use Cotto slipping on a wetspot late as evidence of him being hurt, but fail to recognize Mosley actually slipped and fell in the same spot while no punches were being landed on him.

Mosley is a solid puncher no doubt, but he isn't a huge puncher above lightweight.

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HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

Who did Mosley fight at lightweight? Holiday?

IN the first Vargas fight, the only thing he was doing to Vargas was swelling up his eye, and thats what stopped the fight, Vargas was walking right through his punches, in the second fight Vargas was so badly weightdrained a breeze could have blown him over.

Against Mayorga it took him 12 rounds before the KO came. The reason why MayweatherJonesJr is an idiot is that Mosley KO's came against guys who sucked at LW, he was really good, but they weren't. Also he hasn't ko'ed a valid opponent in his career since moving up. De La Hoya, Collazo, Wright, Forrest, even Miguel Cotto. He stunned Cotto once or twice, but never really hurt him at all, people use Cotto slipping on a wetspot late as evidence of him being hurt, but fail to recognize Mosley actually slipped and fell in the same spot while no punches were being landed on him.

Mosley is a solid puncher no doubt, but he isn't a huge puncher above lightweight.

thats weird because you claimed that delahoya punches harder than mosley and was a bigger threat than shane...yet they've kayoed the same people since moving up to 147 even 154...

take away the victories over the ruined vargas and mayorga...and shane still has the stoppage over margarito, which trumps any stoppage delahoya would have....and you sound stupid when you say "ALL HE WAS DOING WAS SWELLiNG UP HIS EYE", what!?!?!?!?!?!? That like moralles after the Rahem fight saying "he just kept hitting me and moving away"

damn you really are slow....and its funny that you're all of sudden super gung ho floyd when you thought hatton would give him problems....where I told you that fight would be easy and floyd would stop him easily. Like I said before you really dont like mosley...when I prove that he punches harder i.e. his kayo percentage you respond with he didn't stop a valid opponent...just like floyd will be in canasota as will mosley and it won't be because he didn't stop anybody...

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is this comment based off your assumption? Clearly not fact.

Because corrales was soundely beaten by clottey who walked through his shots all night.

And castlllo couldn't move hatton at 140 and lost to lujan at 147....

And dude let me clear something up with you,cause its getting kinda of silly. Yeah floyd is retired, and i dont have invested in any of these guys.
So my feeling arent hurt as you seem to think. I'm simply being objective.

Let me ask you this: If floyd fought and beat mosley, cotto, berto, clottey, and margo, would he not be considered higher than he would be with his current record?

If he doesn't fight again, fine. If he does then great. But he's the one that stated time and time again that he was concerned with his legacy. And after the hatton fight he said he was taking a break until 2010, so go figure. Ive also stated that id be pulling for PBF if they (he and mosley)did fight.

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

You really are an idiot. Where in my post did i try to talk down Mosley's power? I said using YOUR logic, which is comparing fighters by who they could/couldn't knock out in their past, that Mosley isn't as powerful as Pac-man considering Pac knocked out ODLH and Mosley didn't.

I think Mosley/Floyd would be a great fight, but just like you, i have an opinion on the outcome, and that would be that PBF takes it. I can accept someone differing from my opinion QUITE fine.. But when you come here and try to say things are facts because in the past this guy couldn't KO someone is ridiculous, and thats when i get irritated to the point where i have to post..

Styles make fights. To say that Castillo doesn't have power because of the Hatton fight is real amateurish of you. Along with most of your other comments.

[JonesJrMayweather]

HAHA OBJECTIVE?! I think you mean, SUBJECTIVE. Objective would say that he is retired and that he is out of the picture. That is not what you're saying. You're saying he is avoiding fighters, specifically Mosley.. nice try though.

I REALLY can't believe that you're back posting on this topic after you got laughed at time and time again the last time you talked about Floyd.

Thing is that in boxing you have to be subjective. There are no facts, and all you can do is look at the past and ATTEMPT to speculate. Again, there are no facts. You're trying to make castillo/corrales' power out to be nothing special by looking at one or two of their past fights and not their career in general. In that case, did Mosley KO De La Hoya? I don't think he did. But i think Manny Pacquiao did. So using your logic, Mosley must not have the power you're trying to talk him up to having.

idiot.

I don't have to talk up mosley's power..if you can't see it then you're blind or in denial.

32-0 30 kos at lightweight, moved up and stopped vargas twice, mayorga, and margarito. all naturally bigger and heavier guys. And he hurt winky, only winky's clinging on kept him from going down.

The stoppage of margarito says enough about Shane's power. not to mention he has a higher career KO percentage than castillo, corrales, and pacman, which means he has more stopping power, thats a fact.... And i dont care about a couple of fanboys dismissing the point that shane would be floyd's toughest opponent. It's weird because fanboys find that statement to be absurd because "floyd is the best ever and he soundly beats 'em all and he's light years ahead of everybody", so it's no point. Because any objective outlook on a floyd fight translates to: "YOU'RE JUST A HATER, MAN FLOYD'S THE BEST AND WE WHOLE HEARTEDLY DISAGREE WITH ANYONE WHO DOESN"T THINK SO"

There were a collection of guys on here that also said hatton would beat floyd. Where I picked floyd in round ten. Another group also laughed when I kept saying floyd would tear margarito up like he did corrales, while the fight didnt happen it should be more visible after seeing what mosley did to him. FLoyd wouldn't stop him though.

And so fucking what he;s retired, how many theoretical fights have been discussed on this fourm? Countless..I remember I started thread about PACMAN v HAMED and it had over 1000 replies...so whatever with the don't talk him he's retired bullshit. Because corrales is dead and no one is saying man stop saying "corrales this or corrales that"

You really are an idiot. Where in my post did i try to talk down Mosley's power? I said using YOUR logic, which is comparing fighters by who they could/couldn't knock out in their past, that Mosley isn't as powerful as Pac-man considering Pac knocked out ODLH and Mosley didn't.

I think Mosley/Floyd would be a great fight, but just like you, i have an opinion on the outcome, and that would be that PBF takes it. I can accept someone differing from my opinion QUITE fine.. But when you come here and try to say things are facts because in the past this guy couldn't KO someone is ridiculous, and thats when i get irritated to the point where i have to post..

Styles make fights. To say that Castillo doesn't have power because of the Hatton fight is real amateurish of you. Along with most of your other comments.

those comments about mosley's power weren't directed at you. they were toward taeth who claimed castillo and corrales are p4p bigger punchers than shane...which is clearly false. I honestly hadn't paid attention what you were saying any how. I think perhaps i quoted you by accident. Where you can clearly read that it was Taeth that claimed the p4p power comment..so that was a mistake on my part. And you can also further read that I make the point of how silly it is to determine who hits harder based off how they faired against the same opponent. By stating that just because ruiz scored a knockdown on holyfield doesn't mean he hits harder lewis and tyson who couldn't.

And I never said castillo didnt have power..i said he doesn't have as much p4p power as shane....to me p4p power means he carries it up to the next weight which shane has clearly done more effectively than both corrales and castillo. Based off the fights they've had at the higher weights.