How did anyone think this would be competitive is beyond me. ;)
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How did anyone think this would be competitive is beyond me. ;)
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Originally Posted by Nameless
Where did you get the rumor saying that he was broke?Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldogI have a feeling Roy Jones will attempt MMA also, rumors are that he's broke and looking for a paycheck and that's why he keeps on fighting. Let's say Dana White offers him 1 million to fight George St. Pierre and he will probably take the offer and enter the octagon with a similar result happening tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Really all you have to do is kick a boxers front knee at that range for 15 minutes to get a boring win or get him to the ground eventually if you want to be technical and not go for it.
Know what would be more interesting: someone like Sam Soliman going in there. with a strong background of kickboxing and also boxing that would even things up a bit more.
Now that it's over......
1. Toney campaigned for this. Dana White and ufc didn't try to set him up. He actually asked for Lesnar who would have really demolished him.
2. Boxing ability is only good for about 25% of this sport.
3. Any top boxer would dominate a top mma athlete inside of 3 rounds, in a boxing match.
I'm still annoyed, I mean Toney is an annoying buggerhimself, but few could have wanted to see him lose like that. Sat on and and humped for a good 3 minutes! All that writhing and loose flesh hanging all over the place. It was one of the most vulgar things I have ever seen and reminded me completely why I so dislike MMA.
What a horrid sport and shame on Toney for ever going through with this freak show when he could have instead maybe fought another tune up and then gone in there with someone like David Haye. Such a waste of time. 9 months training for that grunt of a sport?
I've been trying to relax by reading a book, but I keep getting horrid flashbacks to that 'fight'. What kind of man likes to watch that kind of thing anyway?
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Originally Posted by miles
Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.
I agree that he should retire, but he could have retired with a little more dignity in the sport that he actually knows. What happened today was predictable, but still humiliating. The Oquendo fight was there for all to see as was Peter 2. No doubt Toney was on the slide, but you wouldn't ever see him sprawled like a whale with a big muscle mary trying to have intercourse on top of him. Ooh, it gives me the shivers! :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.
Toney lives on Planet Toney these days and he seems quite intent on making a huge tit of himself. A damn shame because skill wise he is one of the greats.
Toney - Dignity? Is that a joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI agree that he should retire, but he could have retired with a little more dignity in the sport that he actually knows. What happened today was predictable, but still humiliating. The Oquendo fight was there for all to see as was Peter 2. No doubt Toney was on the slide, but you wouldn't ever see him sprawled like a whale with a big muscle mary trying to have intercourse on top of him. Ooh, it gives me the shivers! :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.
Toney lives on Planet Toney these days and he seems quite intent on making a huge tit of himself. A damn shame because skill wise he is one of the greats.
He got a reported $750,000 for this fight. He's worth two bob in boxing. It's just about the money.. like all fights ;)
WTF is ufc/mma`s obsession with boxing?
As said a million times the 2 sports are entirely different to eachother. Pretty sure if i stuck a prime muhammad ali onto a football field his performance would be distinctly average.
I dont mind UFC/MMA fans personally, but they need to stop with all this which is the better sport shit. So there top boy beat up a washed up blubb of a mess who was being destroyed by any half decent boxer, big deal
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Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
Couture is no where near the top boy but I agree stupid fight and even more stupid was the people who gave Toney a chance.
Wish I never stayed up for it. It was shameful. It wasnt even a clean takedown but Toney is so off blance now he is that fat, that he couldnt stay on his feet. In a way he deserves it for talking so arrogantly.
Didnt like the chants of UFC or how smug Rogan was. Strange that they didnt once reference that a washed up Ray Mercer Knocked out heavyweight champ Tim Sylvia with 1 punch in MMA a couple years back.
Toney hasnt affected his boxing career with this farce but it has made him somewhat of a joke figure in the public eye. He said he wants to stay in MMA but he will just be a steeping stone for those guys. If cant even find teh motivation to get in shape he was never going to take MMA seriously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmyVd...layer_embedded
Here it is for anyone who hasnt seen it.
This was horrible but quite frankly I knew it would be. This fight never peaked my interest because it was nothing more than a thinly veiled hype job. Toney had a punchers chance......that's all. This was promotion at its lowest because there were actually "reports" that Toney was submitting people in practice and that he was in great shape. Even if Toney had won this fight by catching Couture with a punch my intelligence would've still been insulted.
It was sad to watch tbh.
The two sports are so different, who evers terms they fight on has a massive edge.
It's like putting Messi in a tennis match against Nadal.
I'd like to see a rematch under boxing rules and then see.
If UFC wants to prove a point, they need to send someone into a boxing ring and see what happens
No doubts he did it for the money, but his career didn't need to culminate in this farce. What a joke. Still a million dollars for 3 minutes laying on his back isn't to be sniffed at, I guess. The man needs to be kept away from BK though or it will be gone within a matter of months and he will be running his mouth again. :vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterToney - Dignity? Is that a joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI agree that he should retire, but he could have retired with a little more dignity in the sport that he actually knows. What happened today was predictable, but still humiliating. The Oquendo fight was there for all to see as was Peter 2. No doubt Toney was on the slide, but you wouldn't ever see him sprawled like a whale with a big muscle mary trying to have intercourse on top of him. Ooh, it gives me the shivers! :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.
Toney lives on Planet Toney these days and he seems quite intent on making a huge tit of himself. A damn shame because skill wise he is one of the greats.
He got a reported $750,000 for this fight. He's worth two bob in boxing. It's just about the money.. like all fights ;)