James Toney v Randy Couture

[generalbulldog]

I really hope Toney takes his pay check, puts it in the bank and seriously starts to consider giving this fighting career a rest. He is staining his name with constant drug scandals, the ever increasing flab and growing irrelevance. I've always been a huge Toney fan, but I just can't take him seriously anymore. I was against this fight from the start and seeing that was really just pathetic. There was no reason to be doing MMA beyond the paycheck motive.

Come on Toney give it a rest. Enoughs enough.

I have a feeling Roy Jones will attempt MMA also, rumors are that he's broke and looking for a paycheck and that's why he keeps on fighting. Let's say Dana White offers him 1 million to fight George St. Pierre and he will probably take the offer and enter the octagon with a similar result happening tonight.

[Hulk]

We bought it at our house tonight. And having watched UFC since UFC 1, my Dad and I hoped against hope that somehow James Toney could get in a good shot or two and KO Randy before Randy took him down.

But alas it played out just as most everyone expected it to, Couture shot in low and took down Toney and choked him out.

It was pathetic on Toney's part and a bit hard to watch him tap.

I wish he woulda just let himself be choked out, passin out wasn't gonna hurt him like an arm bar would.

[Nameless]

I really hope Toney takes his pay check, puts it in the bank and seriously starts to consider giving this fighting career a rest. He is staining his name with constant drug scandals, the ever increasing flab and growing irrelevance. I've always been a huge Toney fan, but I just can't take him seriously anymore. I was against this fight from the start and seeing that was really just pathetic. There was no reason to be doing MMA beyond the paycheck motive.

Come on Toney give it a rest. Enoughs enough.

I have a feeling Roy Jones will attempt MMA also, rumors are that he's broke and looking for a paycheck and that's why he keeps on fighting. Let's say Dana White offers him 1 million to fight George St. Pierre and he will probably take the offer and enter the octagon with a similar result happening tonight.

Where did you get the rumor saying that he was broke?

[skel1983]

How did anyone think this would be competitive is beyond me.

[chinchekked]

This was horrible but quite frankly I knew it would be. This fight never peaked my interest because it was nothing more than a thinly veiled hype job. Toney had a punchers chance......that's all. This was promotion at its lowest because there were actually "reports" that Toney was submitting people in practice and that he was in great shape. Even if Toney had won this fight by catching Couture with a punch my intelligence would've still been insulted.

[ono]

It was sad to watch tbh.

[0james0]

The two sports are so different, who evers terms they fight on has a massive edge.

It's like putting Messi in a tennis match against Nadal.

I'd like to see a rematch under boxing rules and then see.

If UFC wants to prove a point, they need to send someone into a boxing ring and see what happens

[Andre]

I really hope Toney takes his pay check, puts it in the bank and seriously starts to consider giving this fighting career a rest. He is staining his name with constant drug scandals, the ever increasing flab and growing irrelevance. I've always been a huge Toney fan, but I just can't take him seriously anymore. I was against this fight from the start and seeing that was really just pathetic. There was no reason to be doing MMA beyond the paycheck motive.

Come on Toney give it a rest. Enoughs enough.

I have a feeling Roy Jones will attempt MMA also, rumors are that he's broke and looking for a paycheck and that's why he keeps on fighting. Let's say Dana White offers him 1 million to fight George St. Pierre and he will probably take the offer and enter the octagon with a similar result happening tonight.

Where did you get the rumor saying that he was broke?

Really all you have to do is kick a boxers front knee at that range for 15 minutes to get a boring win or get him to the ground eventually if you want to be technical and not go for it.
Know what would be more interesting: someone like Sam Soliman going in there. with a strong background of kickboxing and also boxing that would even things up a bit more.

[luvfightgame]

Now that it's over......

1. Toney campaigned for this. Dana White and ufc didn't try to set him up. He actually asked for Lesnar who would have really demolished him.

2. Boxing ability is only good for about 25% of this sport.

3. Any top boxer would dominate a top mma athlete inside of 3 rounds, in a boxing match.

[Gandalf]

I'm still annoyed, I mean Toney is an annoying buggerhimself, but few could have wanted to see him lose like that. Sat on and and humped for a good 3 minutes! All that writhing and loose flesh hanging all over the place. It was one of the most vulgar things I have ever seen and reminded me completely why I so dislike MMA.

What a horrid sport and shame on Toney for ever going through with this freak show when he could have instead maybe fought another tune up and then gone in there with someone like David Haye. Such a waste of time. 9 months training for that grunt of a sport?

I've been trying to relax by reading a book, but I keep getting horrid flashbacks to that 'fight'. What kind of man likes to watch that kind of thing anyway?

[skel1983]

I'm still annoyed, I mean Toney is an annoying buggerhimself, but few could have wanted to see him lose like that. Sat on and and humped for a good 3 minutes! All that writhing and loose flesh hanging all over the place. It was one of the most vulgar things I have ever seen and reminded me completely why I so dislike MMA.

What a horrid sport and shame on Toney for ever going through with this freak show when he could have instead maybe fought another tune up and then gone in there with someone like David Haye. Such a waste of time. 9 months training for that grunt of a sport?

I've been trying to relax by reading a book, but I keep getting horrid flashbacks to that 'fight'. What kind of man likes to watch that kind of thing anyway?

Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.

[Gandalf]

I'm still annoyed, I mean Toney is an annoying buggerhimself, but few could have wanted to see him lose like that. Sat on and and humped for a good 3 minutes! All that writhing and loose flesh hanging all over the place. It was one of the most vulgar things I have ever seen and reminded me completely why I so dislike MMA.

What a horrid sport and shame on Toney for ever going through with this freak show when he could have instead maybe fought another tune up and then gone in there with someone like David Haye. Such a waste of time. 9 months training for that grunt of a sport?

I've been trying to relax by reading a book, but I keep getting horrid flashbacks to that 'fight'. What kind of man likes to watch that kind of thing anyway?

Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.

I agree that he should retire, but he could have retired with a little more dignity in the sport that he actually knows. What happened today was predictable, but still humiliating. The Oquendo fight was there for all to see as was Peter 2. No doubt Toney was on the slide, but you wouldn't ever see him sprawled like a whale with a big muscle mary trying to have intercourse on top of him. Ooh, it gives me the shivers!

Toney lives on Planet Toney these days and he seems quite intent on making a huge tit of himself. A damn shame because skill wise he is one of the greats.

[Fenster]

I'm still annoyed, I mean Toney is an annoying buggerhimself, but few could have wanted to see him lose like that. Sat on and and humped for a good 3 minutes! All that writhing and loose flesh hanging all over the place. It was one of the most vulgar things I have ever seen and reminded me completely why I so dislike MMA.

What a horrid sport and shame on Toney for ever going through with this freak show when he could have instead maybe fought another tune up and then gone in there with someone like David Haye. Such a waste of time. 9 months training for that grunt of a sport?

I've been trying to relax by reading a book, but I keep getting horrid flashbacks to that 'fight'. What kind of man likes to watch that kind of thing anyway?

Toney has lost the plot mate he has a big ego and obviously wont listen to anyone but he needs to hang them up his speech is worrying they even used subtitles on the ufc promo his fight against Fres Oquendo last year showed how washed up he was no top ten fighter should touch him Haye would kill him, the guy has been a legend but time for him to retire from all forms of fighting imo.

I agree that he should retire, but he could have retired with a little more dignity in the sport that he actually knows. What happened today was predictable, but still humiliating. The Oquendo fight was there for all to see as was Peter 2. No doubt Toney was on the slide, but you wouldn't ever see him sprawled like a whale with a big muscle mary trying to have intercourse on top of him. Ooh, it gives me the shivers!

Toney lives on Planet Toney these days and he seems quite intent on making a huge tit of himself. A damn shame because skill wise he is one of the greats.

Toney - Dignity? Is that a joke?

He got a reported $750,000 for this fight. He's worth two bob in boxing. It's just about the money.. like all fights

[Nameless]

I really hope Toney takes his pay check, puts it in the bank and seriously starts to consider giving this fighting career a rest. He is staining his name with constant drug scandals, the ever increasing flab and growing irrelevance. I've always been a huge Toney fan, but I just can't take him seriously anymore. I was against this fight from the start and seeing that was really just pathetic. There was no reason to be doing MMA beyond the paycheck motive.

Come on Toney give it a rest. Enoughs enough.

I have a feeling Roy Jones will attempt MMA also, rumors are that he's broke and looking for a paycheck and that's why he keeps on fighting. Let's say Dana White offers him 1 million to fight George St. Pierre and he will probably take the offer and enter the octagon with a similar result happening tonight.

Where did you get the rumor saying that he was broke?

Really all you have to do is kick a boxers front knee at that range for 15 minutes to get a boring win or get him to the ground eventually if you want to be technical and not go for it.
Know what would be more interesting: someone like Sam Soliman going in there. with a strong background of kickboxing and also boxing that would even things up a bit more.

No I agree, I meant where did he hear the rumors that Roy Jones was running out of green bills and was pondering an UFC to get another big check.

[Oggie]

I couldn't really understand what Toney was saying in his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan, but am I right in saying that when Rogan asked - 'James, will you work on your ground game and come back to MMA again in the future?'
Toney replied - 'Nothing wrong with my ground game, he just caught me!'

But all of this MMA versus boxing shoit is annoying. Why can't people just respect each sport for the dedicated and hugely brave athletes that take part in both. Fact is, I'd rather fight a boxer in an MMA match and an MMA fighter in a boxing match! Both dominate their respective disciplines.