Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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skel1983
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superbevvyrhun
Well he's not faced Haye yet, and what I was getting at was that Wlad has pretty much dominated everyone in front of him since Peter #1. Chambers may beat the majority of the top ten, but he didn't come close to Wlad.
For me that shows ho much he has improved with Steward, I don't think Haye has a chance to be honest and I see ths fight as one sided as the hambers fight.
So, if we disregard Haye as a Klitschko-beater, surely the heavyweights are just waiting for Wlad and Vitali to retire so it gets competitive again?
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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Nameless
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erics44
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Nameless
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Mattyhitman
Have you ever seen the K taking excuses not to fight Haye? I'Ve seen this the opposite direction 2 times back to back.
it was never clear who was making the excuses, haye made himself look a dick by the way he kept going on about it and everyone seemed to blame him
adam booths offer to negotiate everything on the TV kind of makes me think haye may not have been blowing all the hot air
the klits get everything their own way in all other fight negotiations, why is it hard to believe that they wanted it all their own way when talking to hayemaker?
THe K offered him 2 times, he signed 2 times and backed off under shady excuses, he even refused a 50-50 offer for a long time stating he was the one bringing the dough on the table and now he comes im trumpeting that the K have no excuses to refuse the 50-50 when HE was the one refusing it the first time? A bit hard to believe the guy one second, really.
Haye never signed to fight 2 times thats incorrect. Only once has a fight been signed by port parties and that was the original Wlad vs Haye fight.
Haye walked away from negotiations with Vitali after getting a much fairer deal from Valuev and Don King.
I agree with you on the 50/50 stuff. At the moment it looks like we just need Wlad to say Yes and I hope he does.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
I think the hang up that people are getting confused by is that Vitali offered the exact same contract Wlad offered that the WBA title holder signed and then backed out of and instead of signing to fight Vitali he signed to fight Valuev.
But I must say I do love this whole "I'm taking a £2 million pay cut to make this fight happen" line....it's like he's been listening to the President of the United States. He's not taking any pay cut he's hashing up hypothetical numbers...total bullshit
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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Balboa
A valid and as yet unthought of question was posted on page 1.
Why ARENT Wlad and Vitali each other's mandatories? I've never even thought of that.
Because the alphabet gangs don't rank other alphabet champions. Both Wlad and Vitali are alphabet champions, so they can never be ranked by their brother's alphabet gang, unless one of them give up their alphabet titles.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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El Kabong
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Balboa
A valid and as yet unthought of question was posted on page 1.
Why ARENT Wlad and Vitali each other's mandatories? I've never even thought of that.
Because (all due respect) its a dumb fucking idea. They won't fight each other and everyone that wants that fight is a complete fucking moron. Never has this been asked of ANY other boxing family....its fucking stupid, stop bringing it up.
"With all due respect" my ass. I find your response wholly unnecessary in both it's hostility and presumptuousness. If that's even a word.
I had never considered it.
I had never heard it talked about.
I do not believe people imagining a fight between the two brothers to be "fucking morons."
I did not realize, at the request of the athlete's involved, that the laws of the sanctioning bodies as it pertains to mandatory fights could be completely discarded based on relationships between fighters.
Yknow Lyle, lots of folks give you a mountain of shit for your unwavering support of the Klitschkos. Sometimes rightfully so. Im a pretty big fan myself, so Ive always tended to quietly support at least the spirit of your arguments.
But now you pissed me off.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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Nameless
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erics44
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Nameless
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Mattyhitman
Have you ever seen the K taking excuses not to fight Haye? I'Ve seen this the opposite direction 2 times back to back.
it was never clear who was making the excuses, haye made himself look a dick by the way he kept going on about it and everyone seemed to blame him
adam booths offer to negotiate everything on the TV kind of makes me think haye may not have been blowing all the hot air
the klits get everything their own way in all other fight negotiations, why is it hard to believe that they wanted it all their own way when talking to hayemaker?
THe K offered him 2 times, he signed 2 times and backed off under shady excuses, he even refused a 50-50 offer for a long time stating he was the one bringing the dough on the table and now he comes im trumpeting that the K have no excuses to refuse the 50-50 when HE was the one refusing it the first time? A bit hard to believe the guy one second, really.
thats what you think happened, im not sure it did
and it doesnt sound like many people actually know what has happened
it sounds like you dislike haye and that is clouding your judgement
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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Balboa
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El Kabong
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Originally Posted by
Balboa
A valid and as yet unthought of question was posted on page 1.
Why ARENT Wlad and Vitali each other's mandatories? I've never even thought of that.
Because (all due respect) its a dumb fucking idea. They won't fight each other and everyone that wants that fight is a complete fucking moron. Never has this been asked of ANY other boxing family....its fucking stupid, stop bringing it up.
"With all due respect" my ass. I find your response wholly unnecessary in both it's hostility and presumptuousness. If that's even a word.
I had never considered it.
I had never heard it talked about.
I do not believe people imagining a fight between the two brothers to be "fucking morons."
I did not realize, at the request of the athlete's involved, that the laws of the sanctioning bodies as it pertains to mandatory fights could be completely discarded based on relationships between fighters.
Yknow Lyle, lots of folks give you a mountain of shit for your unwavering support of the Klitschkos. Sometimes rightfully so. Im a pretty big fan myself, so Ive always tended to quietly support at least the spirit of your arguments.
But now you pissed me off.
To answer your first question mate, they have never been made each others mandatories because none of the major 4 governing bodies rank any of the other champions. So they cannot become each others mandatory defence, if that makes sense.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
plus they will not fight each other, there mother said.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
the idea of having two brothers fight each other is ridiculous, the point of boxing is to inflict physical damage on your opponent, sometimes have fatal consequences
and you're telling me you'd wanna see two brothers kill each other?
it's ridiculous, you actually think if they did end up fighting each other it would be entertaining?!? hell no, you know they're not going to go at it, especially as close as they are, they're gonna have it in the back of their head that that's their blood across the ring and all they'd do is look at each other and maybe paw away
Haye needs to stop talking so much and just fucking fight
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
I know the Klits would never fight and don't expect it or want to see it, but does anyone know if there's any footage of them sparring anywhere? It'd be interesting to see, that's assuming they do spar together.
Not getting my hopes up too much on the Haye fight, but I think the most solid sign that it'll happen is here
"We are now perfectly positioned to get together and make this fight with Wladimir Klitschko. "Despite the fact we know we bring more UK television money to the table, David and I are happy to split the entire pot 50-50 and grant Wladimir the deal he has wanted since day one.
"We have offered them 50-50 on everything - just as they requested - and now see no reason why this tremendous fight can't happen. The path is clear." from Adam Booth.
In that quote too it clearly says it's been the Haye camp holding up over the TV money, as we suspected.
Seems promising, as long as the extra money that's been mentioned doesn't become a factor. This clearly should be complete 50/50, and Booth and Haye should know it.
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
Let's pretend that the Klits were not brothers. I reckon Vitali starches Wlad personally. As I've said many times (in my opinion) Haye has a punchers chance against Wlad. If Sanders and Brewster can KO him it's stupid to suggest that Haye cannot. However I still think Wlad KOs Haye within 9 minutes and possibly within 3. As far as Vitali goes (again in my opinion) Haye's only chnace is if Vitali has a heart attack and dies in the ring. Haye cannot KO Vitali and that is his only chance of winning. Again I don't see it going past 3 rounds
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
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koppas
Love how people are now believing everything David Haye and Adam Booth say...
well said mate, isnt that the same haye who's signed then pulled out of fights with the klit bro's in the pasted
Re: Adam Booth Says Wlad is refusing to sign a 50/50 split fight with Haye.
He signed for one fight, not two and he didn't pull out, he was not allowed to postpone until another date.
