Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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Beating Mosley won't make the question marks around pac go away.
Don't understand why Pacquiao's KO losses from when he was a kid are brought up so much. Am I the only one that thinks those are completly irrelevant? Fighters evolve, mature, and grow up. Pac is completly differant now than he was 6 years ago.
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
My bad Hornfinger, didn't mean to put your quote in there lol.
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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Thats hugger logic ;D Maybe Floyd just softened up Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley so he looks spectacular :D
Knockouts are overrated at times and fact is though Manny gets props and respect because, well, he's the one actually fighting he'll be meeting Mosley after Mayweather shut him out. I think as long as Pac beats him up nicely...and doesn't get shaken to his heels in round 2...he should get equal acclaim. Its how he fights him and wins, yet to be seen. Think Manny will put himself inside of Mosleys still viable wheel house and can't resist a shoot out...thats why It wouldn't shock me to see Manny on his ass for a moment before its all said and done.
I agree Manny could see the Canvas if Shane catches him....We all know that Manny can not resist getting into it and if he gets hit hard he almost like there is no impulse control has to come back instaed of trying to recoupe......I think it might be a better fight then many think it will
To DaxxKhann,
Gloves have big factor to k.o an opponent. You forgot the first Pacquiao-Morales fight. Pacquaio and Roach bellyached that Manny was obliged to use Winning Gloves than KO puncher gloves Cleto Reyes. Manny said he could not KO Morales because of that pillow glove Winning.
So what were you talkin' that gloves do not matter?
Floyd was right, if he wore 8 ounce against Hatton, he could KO Hatton earlier. (or he could damaged his brittle hands, earlier, too) But despite of it, he was able toTKO the English boy later.
Man, 8 ounce and 10 ounce have a lot of difference to damage an opponent.
Again, to reiterate my thesis: AS LONG AS FLOYD AND MANNY WOULD NOT DUKE OUT, WE COULD NOT AVOID PEOPLE TO OPINE THAT A SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE BY MANNY AGAINST SHANE WOULD GENERATE A HELL OF OPINIONS TO PEOPLE who would SPECULATE THAT FLOYD IS MUCH BETTER THAN MANNy.
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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toto
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DaxxKahn
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Spicoli
Thats hugger logic ;D Maybe Floyd just softened up Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley so he looks spectacular :D
Knockouts are overrated at times and fact is though Manny gets props and respect because, well, he's the one actually fighting he'll be meeting Mosley after Mayweather shut him out. I think as long as Pac beats him up nicely...and doesn't get shaken to his heels in round 2...he should get equal acclaim. Its how he fights him and wins, yet to be seen. Think Manny will put himself inside of Mosleys still viable wheel house and can't resist a shoot out...thats why It wouldn't shock me to see Manny on his ass for a moment before its all said and done.
I agree Manny could see the Canvas if Shane catches him....We all know that Manny can not resist getting into it and if he gets hit hard he almost like there is no impulse control has to come back instaed of trying to recoupe......I think it might be a better fight then many think it will
To DaxxKhann,
Gloves have big factor to k.o an opponent. You forgot the first Pacquiao-Morales fight. Pacquaio and Roach bellyached that Manny was obliged to use Winning Gloves than KO puncher gloves Cleto Reyes. Manny said he could not KO Morales because of that pillow glove Winning.
So what were you talkin' that gloves do not matter?
Floyd was right, if he wore 8 ounce against Hatton, he could KO Hatton earlier. (or he could damaged his brittle hands, earlier, too) But despite of it, he was able toTKO the English boy later.
Man, 8 ounce and 10 ounce have a lot of difference to damage an opponent.
Again, to reiterate my thesis: AS LONG AS FLOYD AND MANNY WOULD NOT DUKE OUT, WE COULD NOT AVOID PEOPLE TO OPINE THAT A SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE BY MANNY AGAINST SHANE WOULD GENERATE A HELL OF OPINIONS TO PEOPLE who would SPECULATE THAT FLOYD IS MUCH BETTER THAN MANNy.
UMMMMM no the 2 oz are not that much of a difference but OK if you say so...Are you sure you watched the Hatton fight? Maybe you should again because Floyd while he stunned Hatton Ricky was hurt more by the turnbuckle then anything....
Now I understand you have been involved in the music business and all for quite sometime and your song Africa sold quite a bit of singles but this is boxing not 70's and 80's pop......What really determines the factor for punchers is the type of gloves...There are reasons why power punchers like Reyes and boxers or those with bad hands prefer Grant, Everlast etc....Get hit with a 10 oz Reyes glove and get hit with a 10oz Grant glove you will know the difference same for 8oz or any weight for that matter..,.Get hit with a 8oz Grant or Everlast and a 10oz Reyes and you will know the difference and that will be the fact the Reyes huts a whole lot more
As for you and your capital letters I can see you are annoyed because I did not tell you what great points you brought up, it would not matter if Manny stopped Shane in 1 rd or if Manny goes the distance with Shane and Floyd had stopped Shane in 1 round during their fight at this point no ones opinions are really going to change the Manny supporters will stay with Manny and the Floyd Supporters will stay with Floyd.....As for Mosley it doesnt matter if Manny gets the KO or not...Shane has never been stopped in his career and he has only been down twice and even that might be wrong because I think Forrest is the only one to ever put him down (Not positive on it gotta think about it just going from what I can remember off the top of my head)...So even at his age it is not a factor if he is not stopped because Shane is not expected to be stopped by anyone....Why should Manny have to stop Shane to prove anything?.........
The only way to settle PBF/Pacquiao is for them to fight common opponents at this level mean nothing....And even if Manny has a lack performance against Shane it still proves little becauser I can name quite a few laxed performances by Floyd
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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Thats a big if my man...What makes Manny so popular is he will fight anyone...Floyd will not....Now people who debate this topic and I don't mean you in particular I am talking about the Floyd nut huggers and the Pac tards not the true boxing fans always leave some sort of logic out of it....I compare them this way....
We know they are two different style fighters...so to use that as a measuring stick is not fair because one is an all out aggressive fighter who now uses mobility to his advantage instead of just standing there willing to take punches and see who wilts first...That is what made Manny so exciting in the first place...Floyd is a counter puncher that has amazing defense......Each one is the best in bhoxing right now at the type style they fight with but....
Floyd has not really done what a P4P fighter should in the last 4 years has he? Lets be truthful a moment...To be ranked the best you must seek out and fight the best....I mean hell you can have a 10 inch Johnson but if your sticking it in some trashy slut on camera your not a porn star regardless if you have the tool that would allow you to be one....Floyd has chosen his opp very carefully since his close call in the Castillo fight where many believe JLC won forget about the return bout.....His team has gone through great lengths to make sure his opp is taylor made for him...For as good as Floyd is I find it amazing that people refuse to believe this about him....There are reasons why Floyd only defended his WW belt once and it was against Hatton who as I mentioned in another post uses his face as defence....Those who believe that Floyd chose JMM in his return bout from his so called retirement :rolleyes: because he was the best available opp out there are idiots....I refuse to even debate issues on PBF with them for this reason...That was a bout where Floyd and everyone knew gave Manny the toughest fights of his career it was going to be a way for him to see exactly what Manny could offer....If he beat JMM with ease then it would have ment he could beat Manny with ease but Manny kept beating these guys Floyd did not want to face or just did not face for one reason or another....Look at Floyds history when he has moved into a new division he has always targeted the most vunerable champion in that division....The record speaks for itself.....Does that mean Floyd is not the talent he is no ofr course he is that good but what does he do with it?.....The 0 means more to Floyd then anything.....
Ask yourself this and I really would like any of his nut huggers to do so and they don't need to share their answer or even change their opinion just come to reality with their selves....
If for fantasy sake lets pretend Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, SRR, Tommy Hearns and Hank Armstrong were all active in the WW division at one time does anyone believe that Floyd would seek out any of them?...We will of course put them all in their prime abillity stage....NO Floyd would not....He could of made big money fights and money is all that matters according to him with Cotto, Margarito, Williams in the WW division...YET we sated he was retiring because there was no one for him to fight?.All these men were undefeated at the time and all could have been paydays for him millions of dollars in paydays....A man like Floyd does not turn down money of that caliber...Cotto was red hot when Floyd retired....Floyd could not say Cotto was not a big draw....The man causes a frenzy when he fights in MSG
Manny fights who ever is willing....Forget the size forget the he is not an actual full fledged fighter of that weight class he will fight them....He gives up size and power in most his recent fights...DLH, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and even Hatton though not to the extent he gave away size to the others....That is a fighter....He uses his speed to his advantage....That is his main advantage because his power is not that bgreat...he is beating guys with the mass of punches he throws not with power.....Why does he look so ripped? I love how everyone likes to swear it is PEDS....Yet none come to think that is could be because Manny is pushing to make the higher weight and has little to burn off of him....If Manny is that easy to beat and Manny would fall to Floyd so easily then whats the problem?...Why won;t Floyd fight him?.....It does not matter who is better fact is right now Floyd could not make in 5 fights what he would in a bout against Manny....Again to repeat Floyd all that matters is money!!!!
If people believe that Floyd won't fight Manny or anyone because he wants all his opponents to be PED free and wants to clean up boxing then why has he not done something active to get this done? Just refusing to fight anyone who will not take your test is not how it happens...Does he rally other fighters to do the same? Does his website ask fans to sign a petition to submit to commissions? What has he done to help clean up boxing? Boxing is not rampit with steroid abuse there are isolated users but compared top any other sport boxing might have the least problem with it.....The man is full of shit he cares about no one but Floyd....Fine I mean who really does care Floyd Mayweather Jr is not boxing...He has no bearing on anyones life but his and his leaches....To go against what he demanded of Manny now would make him a public fool there is no way around it....Manny right now would get millions to fight a cab driver due to his popularity......He does not need to bargin with Floyd....Floyd does not have all the chips in his corner and he knows it and it eats him up inside.....Either fight or move on man this is craziness....He is like a kid crying over spilled milk yet there is a whole gallon in the fridge....Floyds ego was bruised because boxing moved on without him during his retirement ( I still laugh everytime I think of the farce).....He fucking stayed on the P4P list when retired? That shows how serious it was taken by the media outlets....Manny stole his thunder and thats that......Besides Floyd is actually the #3 P4P fighters right now if people think Manny should be #2.SRR and Hank Armstrong have only been dead for 20 or so years how could they have lost their spot in the ratrings already?.....
Floyd won't fight anyone who won't subject to a PED testing Olympic style because he wants every fight to be fair????
Are we to believe that his baby Mama took an Olympic style PED testing before getting slapped around by him? My God man he truly is looking to make sure all fights are fair :o
:lolololol:
Disclaimer: I don't find domestic violence as hilarious but the reference of the above statement is.
I don;t find it funny either I do like to take a pot shot at Floyd now and again though especially for such stupid things
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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BoxingGorilla
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InTheNeutralCorner
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BoxingGorilla
What Pacquiao should do is take the drug test and prove he is better than Mayweather by actually fighting Mayweather.
Pacquiao had already agreed to it.
How many more links do you need me to post in here?
14 days isn't what Mayweather requested. It's what Pacquiao would agree to take, which is almost the same as not taking one at all.
14 days is what Mayweather was originally willing to give in the first negotiation.
Manny Pacquiao agrees to Mayweather’s 14-day cut off � Now Boxing
Mayweather Blood Testing - Pacquiao-Mayweather fight can't get past blood testing - Los Angeles Times
Bully boy Floyd Mayweather's 14 day line in sand stupid - National boxing | Examiner.com
PHXSuns.Net - Pacquiao Willing To Meet Mayweather's 14-Day Number
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Talks Manny Pacquiao and Steroids - Boxing News
Now, he changes his mind again after Pacquiao agrees and he demands that there be full random testing with no cut-off.
floyd mayweather | Testing It Up – Drug & Health Testing News – Test Country Blog
Who is he, the head of some boxing commission? Floyd, however, did not pursue it and instead opted to go on vacation because if Manny agrees to it, Floyd knows he will be trapped in the corner with no escape.
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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DaxxKahn
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toto
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DaxxKahn
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Spicoli
Thats hugger logic ;D Maybe Floyd just softened up Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley so he looks spectacular :D
Knockouts are overrated at times and fact is though Manny gets props and respect because, well, he's the one actually fighting he'll be meeting Mosley after Mayweather shut him out. I think as long as Pac beats him up nicely...and doesn't get shaken to his heels in round 2...he should get equal acclaim. Its how he fights him and wins, yet to be seen. Think Manny will put himself inside of Mosleys still viable wheel house and can't resist a shoot out...thats why It wouldn't shock me to see Manny on his ass for a moment before its all said and done.
I agree Manny could see the Canvas if Shane catches him....We all know that Manny can not resist getting into it and if he gets hit hard he almost like there is no impulse control has to come back instaed of trying to recoupe......I think it might be a better fight then many think it will
To DaxxKhann,
Gloves have big factor to k.o an opponent. You forgot the first Pacquiao-Morales fight. Pacquaio and Roach bellyached that Manny was obliged to use Winning Gloves than KO puncher gloves Cleto Reyes. Manny said he could not KO Morales because of that pillow glove Winning.
So what were you talkin' that gloves do not matter?
Floyd was right, if he wore 8 ounce against Hatton, he could KO Hatton earlier. (or he could damaged his brittle hands, earlier, too) But despite of it, he was able toTKO the English boy later.
Man, 8 ounce and 10 ounce have a lot of difference to damage an opponent.
Again, to reiterate my thesis: AS LONG AS FLOYD AND MANNY WOULD NOT DUKE OUT, WE COULD NOT AVOID PEOPLE TO OPINE THAT A SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE BY MANNY AGAINST SHANE WOULD GENERATE A HELL OF OPINIONS TO PEOPLE who would SPECULATE THAT FLOYD IS MUCH BETTER THAN MANNy.
UMMMMM no the 2 oz are not that much of a difference but OK if you say so...Are you sure you watched the Hatton fight? Maybe you should again because Floyd while he stunned Hatton Ricky was hurt more by the turnbuckle then anything....
Now I understand you have been involved in the music business and all for quite sometime and your song Africa sold quite a bit of singles but this is boxing not 70's and 80's pop......What really determines the factor for punchers is the type of gloves...There are reasons why power punchers like Reyes and boxers or those with bad hands prefer Grant, Everlast etc....Get hit with a 10 oz Reyes glove and get hit with a 10oz Grant glove you will know the difference same for 8oz or any weight for that matter..,.Get hit with a 8oz Grant or Everlast and a 10oz Reyes and you will know the difference and that will be the fact the Reyes huts a whole lot more
As for you and your capital letters I can see you are annoyed because I did not tell you what great points you brought up, it would not matter if Manny stopped Shane in 1 rd or if Manny goes the distance with Shane and Floyd had stopped Shane in 1 round during their fight at this point no ones opinions are really going to change the Manny supporters will stay with Manny and the Floyd Supporters will stay with Floyd.....As for Mosley it doesnt matter if Manny gets the KO or not...Shane has never been stopped in his career and he has only been down twice and even that might be wrong because I think Forrest is the only one to ever put him down (Not positive on it gotta think about it just going from what I can remember off the top of my head)...So even at his age it is not a factor if he is not stopped because Shane is not expected to be stopped by anyone....Why should Manny have to stop Shane to prove anything?.........
The only way to settle PBF/Pacquiao is for them to fight common opponents at this level mean nothing....And even if Manny has a lack performance against Shane it still proves little becauser I can name quite a few laxed performances by Floyd
I stopped reading after this... sorry you think running into the turnbuckle was what hurt Hatton there? THe previous two rounds he was getting pounded on and picked apart.
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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Taeth
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DaxxKahn
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toto
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DaxxKahn
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Spicoli
Thats hugger logic ;D Maybe Floyd just softened up Oscar, Hatton, and Mosley so he looks spectacular :D
Knockouts are overrated at times and fact is though Manny gets props and respect because, well, he's the one actually fighting he'll be meeting Mosley after Mayweather shut him out. I think as long as Pac beats him up nicely...and doesn't get shaken to his heels in round 2...he should get equal acclaim. Its how he fights him and wins, yet to be seen. Think Manny will put himself inside of Mosleys still viable wheel house and can't resist a shoot out...thats why It wouldn't shock me to see Manny on his ass for a moment before its all said and done.
I agree Manny could see the Canvas if Shane catches him....We all know that Manny can not resist getting into it and if he gets hit hard he almost like there is no impulse control has to come back instaed of trying to recoupe......I think it might be a better fight then many think it will
To DaxxKhann,
Gloves have big factor to k.o an opponent. You forgot the first Pacquiao-Morales fight. Pacquaio and Roach bellyached that Manny was obliged to use Winning Gloves than KO puncher gloves Cleto Reyes. Manny said he could not KO Morales because of that pillow glove Winning.
So what were you talkin' that gloves do not matter?
Floyd was right, if he wore 8 ounce against Hatton, he could KO Hatton earlier. (or he could damaged his brittle hands, earlier, too) But despite of it, he was able toTKO the English boy later.
Man, 8 ounce and 10 ounce have a lot of difference to damage an opponent.
Again, to reiterate my thesis: AS LONG AS FLOYD AND MANNY WOULD NOT DUKE OUT, WE COULD NOT AVOID PEOPLE TO OPINE THAT A SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE BY MANNY AGAINST SHANE WOULD GENERATE A HELL OF OPINIONS TO PEOPLE who would SPECULATE THAT FLOYD IS MUCH BETTER THAN MANNy.
UMMMMM no the 2 oz are not that much of a difference but OK if you say so...Are you sure you watched the Hatton fight? Maybe you should again because Floyd while he stunned Hatton Ricky was hurt more by the turnbuckle then anything....
Now I understand you have been involved in the music business and all for quite sometime and your song Africa sold quite a bit of singles but this is boxing not 70's and 80's pop......What really determines the factor for punchers is the type of gloves...There are reasons why power punchers like Reyes and boxers or those with bad hands prefer Grant, Everlast etc....Get hit with a 10 oz Reyes glove and get hit with a 10oz Grant glove you will know the difference same for 8oz or any weight for that matter..,.Get hit with a 8oz Grant or Everlast and a 10oz Reyes and you will know the difference and that will be the fact the Reyes huts a whole lot more
As for you and your capital letters I can see you are annoyed because I did not tell you what great points you brought up, it would not matter if Manny stopped Shane in 1 rd or if Manny goes the distance with Shane and Floyd had stopped Shane in 1 round during their fight at this point no ones opinions are really going to change the Manny supporters will stay with Manny and the Floyd Supporters will stay with Floyd.....As for Mosley it doesnt matter if Manny gets the KO or not...Shane has never been stopped in his career and he has only been down twice and even that might be wrong because I think Forrest is the only one to ever put him down (Not positive on it gotta think about it just going from what I can remember off the top of my head)...So even at his age it is not a factor if he is not stopped because Shane is not expected to be stopped by anyone....Why should Manny have to stop Shane to prove anything?.........
The only way to settle PBF/Pacquiao is for them to fight common opponents at this level mean nothing....And even if Manny has a lack performance against Shane it still proves little becauser I can name quite a few laxed performances by Floyd
I stopped reading after this... sorry you think running into the turnbuckle was what hurt Hatton there? THe previous two rounds he was getting pounded on and picked apart.
That part was obvious of course the whole point was how glove size and brand effects a punch....The guy said Floyd only stopped Hatton in the fight so late because his gloves were too big or else he would have done it earlier....The stoppage was going to come regardless just when it happened had more to do with accumulation and the fact Hatton went face first into the turnbucle not because of Punching power or glove size
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
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InTheNeutralCorner
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BoxingGorilla
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InTheNeutralCorner
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BoxingGorilla
What Pacquiao should do is take the drug test and prove he is better than Mayweather by actually fighting Mayweather.
Pacquiao had already agreed to it.
How many more links do you need me to post in here?
14 days isn't what Mayweather requested. It's what Pacquiao would agree to take, which is almost the same as not taking one at all.
14 days is what Mayweather was originally willing to give in the first negotiation.
Now, he changes his mind again after Pacquiao agrees and he demands that there be full random testing with no cut-off.
Who is he, the head of some boxing commission? Floyd, however, did not pursue it and instead opted to go on vacation because if Manny agrees to it, Floyd knows he will be trapped in the corner with no escape.
I'm not clicking on all the links, but I'm sure they back your claim or you wouldn't have posted them. So, I'll just say that I'm obstinate, ignorant and accurate.
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I'm not clicking on all the links, but I'm sure they back your claim or you wouldn't have posted them. So, I'll just say that I'm obstinate, ignorant and accurate.
If I could be bothered, I'd find a link to dispute this claim ;D
Re: Pacquiao Should KO Mosley to Prove he is better than Mayweather
Hatton stopping Castillo proved a lot right?
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...how far away from boxing does floyd have to be before these silly arguments stop. They could lock floyd up put him in the hole and there'd still be people slipping notes under his cell door chanllenging the guy to a fight. Every move pac makes in some way has to be compared to floyd. Yet the same people making the comparisons think floyd is crap.....amazing. I wonder how much time the patriots spend hyping up and comparing themselves to the panthers. Floyd doesn't want to fight, so move on to someone that does. Or should junior witter still be following ricky hatton around looking for a fight too. Both are just a stupid as the other. How bout pac beat the shit out of mosely cause that's the guy in front of him and that's his job instead of trying to beat him for whatever floyd motivated reason when we all "supposidly" hate the guy. Best case would be mosley ko'ing pac, floyd taking some tune up fight down the line him also getting ko'd and all this sillyness stops and we can get back to boxing. Not just repeatitive arguments over these two cacks. I like em both but there's more to the sport than these two.
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...how far away from boxing does floyd have to be before these silly arguments stop. They could lock floyd up put him in the hole and there'd still be people slipping notes under his cell door chanllenging the guy to a fight. Every move pac makes in some way has to be compared to floyd. Yet the same people making the comparisons think floyd is crap.....amazing. I wonder how much time the patriots spend hyping up and comparing themselves to the panthers. Floyd doesn't want to fight, so move on to someone that does. Or should junior witter still be following ricky hatton around looking for a fight too. Both are just a stupid as the other. How bout pac beat the shit out of mosely cause that's the guy in front of him and that's his job instead of trying to beat him for whatever floyd motivated reason when we all "supposidly" hate the guy. Best case would be mosley ko'ing pac, floyd taking some tune up fight down the line him also getting ko'd and all this sillyness stops and we can get back to boxing. Not just repeatitive arguments over these two cacks. I like em both but there's more to the sport than these two.
Well said to say either fighter is crap is just craziness....My dislike of Floyd really comes from his personal attitude as a fighter and I have said this many times on these forms you can not deny the mans skillset....My only real favortisim of Manny over Floyd as a fighter is because Manny just bseems to go out and is willing to fight who is willing...
I could not and still do not like ODH but when he was fighting I always watched ODH fights because he fought who ever was willing and he actively sought out the best there was to offer win lose or draw...That is what makes a fighter....
As for both men being at fault that is another 100% positive statement....I dont give a shit what any media memebr, fan or even Roach could say if he ever di about Manny not knowing about the negotiations that happened between the two camps and Manny's whole deal had been going through managers promoters etc....Any man at Manny's level, who has 30 million dollars to profit from is going to know EXACTLY WTF IS GOING ON!!!!!....I mean c'mon the man is a congressmen he can not be oblivuous to such things in his personal affairs.....Plus I was not bothered by a couple of catchweight bouts but they have become a habit and while entertaining the bouts are WTF man just get rid of weight classes if this is going to be a regular thing...It takes away from the make up of the sport....The ABC titles that seem to range from A-Z literally these days are bad enough without all the catch weight bouts
Most of my digs at Floyd and I will admit it is due to his nonsense talk....It is one thing to hand out a line of crap to fans because hey this is boxing and anyone who knows dirt about the sport knows boxers have excuses for everything and when it comes to opponents the reply is My Promoter makes the fights, when it comes to losses it can nrange from Hand problems all the way to I timed my coffee wrong (A genuine Vinny Pazienza excuse)......I can not buy shit like I chose JMM because he is the best opp the sport has to offer right now when the weight call you are in and the weight class you fought for a title in last had an over abundance of competition....It is an insult to be lied to so poorly.......But Mar you certainly do make a HUGE point these are 2 men they are not boxing......
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Once Floyd beats Pac and makes it look easy. This forum and many others will finally be for the boxing fans. The Pac huggers are just plain getting old. We get it we get it....you are brainwashed. I'm all for being a Pac fan if you want but you go to bed insecure and worrying about Floyd more then Pac.
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DaxxKahn and Mar are looking at this having drunk from the truth serum. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather are taking the most challenging fights. They are both after making the most buck for their bang. The Mayweathers don't seem to be able to hold their tongues for too long so we'll see
Pacquiao could have taken Marquez but Marquez didn't want to lower his price so Mosley won the bidding war. Pacquiao beating Mosley won't answer any questions though about how much he has improved or if he can beat Mayweather.
