My bad Hornfinger, didn't mean to put your quote in there lol.
To DaxxKhann,
Gloves have big factor to k.o an opponent. You forgot the first Pacquiao-Morales fight. Pacquaio and Roach bellyached that Manny was obliged to use Winning Gloves than KO puncher gloves Cleto Reyes. Manny said he could not KO Morales because of that pillow glove Winning.
So what were you talkin' that gloves do not matter?
Floyd was right, if he wore 8 ounce against Hatton, he could KO Hatton earlier. (or he could damaged his brittle hands, earlier, too) But despite of it, he was able toTKO the English boy later.
Man, 8 ounce and 10 ounce have a lot of difference to damage an opponent.
Again, to reiterate my thesis: AS LONG AS FLOYD AND MANNY WOULD NOT DUKE OUT, WE COULD NOT AVOID PEOPLE TO OPINE THAT A SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE BY MANNY AGAINST SHANE WOULD GENERATE A HELL OF OPINIONS TO PEOPLE who would SPECULATE THAT FLOYD IS MUCH BETTER THAN MANNy.
UMMMMM no the 2 oz are not that much of a difference but OK if you say so...Are you sure you watched the Hatton fight? Maybe you should again because Floyd while he stunned Hatton Ricky was hurt more by the turnbuckle then anything....
Now I understand you have been involved in the music business and all for quite sometime and your song Africa sold quite a bit of singles but this is boxing not 70's and 80's pop......What really determines the factor for punchers is the type of gloves...There are reasons why power punchers like Reyes and boxers or those with bad hands prefer Grant, Everlast etc....Get hit with a 10 oz Reyes glove and get hit with a 10oz Grant glove you will know the difference same for 8oz or any weight for that matter..,.Get hit with a 8oz Grant or Everlast and a 10oz Reyes and you will know the difference and that will be the fact the Reyes huts a whole lot more
As for you and your capital letters I can see you are annoyed because I did not tell you what great points you brought up, it would not matter if Manny stopped Shane in 1 rd or if Manny goes the distance with Shane and Floyd had stopped Shane in 1 round during their fight at this point no ones opinions are really going to change the Manny supporters will stay with Manny and the Floyd Supporters will stay with Floyd.....As for Mosley it doesnt matter if Manny gets the KO or not...Shane has never been stopped in his career and he has only been down twice and even that might be wrong because I think Forrest is the only one to ever put him down (Not positive on it gotta think about it just going from what I can remember off the top of my head)...So even at his age it is not a factor if he is not stopped because Shane is not expected to be stopped by anyone....Why should Manny have to stop Shane to prove anything?.........
The only way to settle PBF/Pacquiao is for them to fight common opponents at this level mean nothing....And even if Manny has a lack performance against Shane it still proves little becauser I can name quite a few laxed performances by Floyd
Last edited by DaxxKahn; 01-05-2011 at 03:14 AM.
14 days is what Mayweather was originally willing to give in the first negotiation.
Manny Pacquiao agrees to Mayweather’s 14-day cut off � Now Boxing
Mayweather Blood Testing - Pacquiao-Mayweather fight can't get past blood testing - Los Angeles Times
Bully boy Floyd Mayweather's 14 day line in sand stupid - National boxing | Examiner.com
PHXSuns.Net - Pacquiao Willing To Meet Mayweather's 14-Day Number
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Talks Manny Pacquiao and Steroids - Boxing News
Now, he changes his mind again after Pacquiao agrees and he demands that there be full random testing with no cut-off.
floyd mayweather | Testing It Up – Drug & Health Testing News – Test Country Blog
Who is he, the head of some boxing commission? Floyd, however, did not pursue it and instead opted to go on vacation because if Manny agrees to it, Floyd knows he will be trapped in the corner with no escape.
Last edited by InTheNeutralCorner; 01-05-2011 at 01:59 PM.
That part was obvious of course the whole point was how glove size and brand effects a punch....The guy said Floyd only stopped Hatton in the fight so late because his gloves were too big or else he would have done it earlier....The stoppage was going to come regardless just when it happened had more to do with accumulation and the fact Hatton went face first into the turnbucle not because of Punching power or glove size
Hatton stopping Castillo proved a lot right?
...how far away from boxing does floyd have to be before these silly arguments stop. They could lock floyd up put him in the hole and there'd still be people slipping notes under his cell door chanllenging the guy to a fight. Every move pac makes in some way has to be compared to floyd. Yet the same people making the comparisons think floyd is crap.....amazing. I wonder how much time the patriots spend hyping up and comparing themselves to the panthers. Floyd doesn't want to fight, so move on to someone that does. Or should junior witter still be following ricky hatton around looking for a fight too. Both are just a stupid as the other. How bout pac beat the shit out of mosely cause that's the guy in front of him and that's his job instead of trying to beat him for whatever floyd motivated reason when we all "supposidly" hate the guy. Best case would be mosley ko'ing pac, floyd taking some tune up fight down the line him also getting ko'd and all this sillyness stops and we can get back to boxing. Not just repeatitive arguments over these two cacks. I like em both but there's more to the sport than these two.
Last edited by Mar; 01-06-2011 at 12:17 AM.
Hidden Content Click clack ! Give up the purse.........or yetti will find you.
Well said to say either fighter is crap is just craziness....My dislike of Floyd really comes from his personal attitude as a fighter and I have said this many times on these forms you can not deny the mans skillset....My only real favortisim of Manny over Floyd as a fighter is because Manny just bseems to go out and is willing to fight who is willing...
I could not and still do not like ODH but when he was fighting I always watched ODH fights because he fought who ever was willing and he actively sought out the best there was to offer win lose or draw...That is what makes a fighter....
As for both men being at fault that is another 100% positive statement....I dont give a shit what any media memebr, fan or even Roach could say if he ever di about Manny not knowing about the negotiations that happened between the two camps and Manny's whole deal had been going through managers promoters etc....Any man at Manny's level, who has 30 million dollars to profit from is going to know EXACTLY WTF IS GOING ON!!!!!....I mean c'mon the man is a congressmen he can not be oblivuous to such things in his personal affairs.....Plus I was not bothered by a couple of catchweight bouts but they have become a habit and while entertaining the bouts are WTF man just get rid of weight classes if this is going to be a regular thing...It takes away from the make up of the sport....The ABC titles that seem to range from A-Z literally these days are bad enough without all the catch weight bouts
Most of my digs at Floyd and I will admit it is due to his nonsense talk....It is one thing to hand out a line of crap to fans because hey this is boxing and anyone who knows dirt about the sport knows boxers have excuses for everything and when it comes to opponents the reply is My Promoter makes the fights, when it comes to losses it can nrange from Hand problems all the way to I timed my coffee wrong (A genuine Vinny Pazienza excuse)......I can not buy shit like I chose JMM because he is the best opp the sport has to offer right now when the weight call you are in and the weight class you fought for a title in last had an over abundance of competition....It is an insult to be lied to so poorly.......But Mar you certainly do make a HUGE point these are 2 men they are not boxing......
Once Floyd beats Pac and makes it look easy. This forum and many others will finally be for the boxing fans. The Pac huggers are just plain getting old. We get it we get it....you are brainwashed. I'm all for being a Pac fan if you want but you go to bed insecure and worrying about Floyd more then Pac.
DaxxKahn and Mar are looking at this having drunk from the truth serum. Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather are taking the most challenging fights. They are both after making the most buck for their bang. The Mayweathers don't seem to be able to hold their tongues for too long so we'll see
Pacquiao could have taken Marquez but Marquez didn't want to lower his price so Mosley won the bidding war. Pacquiao beating Mosley won't answer any questions though about how much he has improved or if he can beat Mayweather.
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