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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
But not all that surprising. :(
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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
But not all that surprising. :(
Pac has reach Floyds weightclass - Floyd fights a featherweight.
Fans are begging for Pac vs Floyd - Suddenly Floyd wants to clean up the sport and require his oppenent to take Olympic style testing for a Professional fight.
Fans are starving for Pac vs Floyd - Floyd is on vacation.
So if you think Pacs past oppenents have been so weak, tell me whos been fighting better opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhoustonPac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Name one fighter who has done better than the fighter of the decade?
Another interview I heard from Bob Arum said that he didn't want Manny to take the blood tests because "sometimes the nurses can't find the veins and they keep poking and poking..Floyd is harrassing Manny with these blood tests because he knows Manny gets freaked out with blood tests...":confused:. We keep hearing all kinds of excuses. Maybe Bob Arum, Freddy Roach, and Manny should get together and agree on what stories to say so they don't keep contradicting each other.
I am not saying Floyd wins easily. Nope, heck, if someone can beat Floyd I'll say it's Manny AND BY KO/TKO!:cool: Or Floyd could win by a clear desicion.
But the contradicting excuses gotta stop from Pac and his team. On the last 24/7 Pac's team is seen once again saying they need weeks of no blood tests.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38i5...eature=related
ESPN talks about random blood tests:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlNkrBRoiHI&feature=related
Manny contradicting himself in another interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=channel_video_title
The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Anyone who's not been fighting shot fighters at catch weights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainSo if you think Pacs past oppenents have been so weak, tell me whos been fighting better opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhoustonPac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Name one fighter who has done better than the fighter of the decade?
:lolhaha: pathetic, your just another pac hater because I am sure pac whooped on one of your favorite fighter. Its ok, its natural for you to feel so negative towards someone so successful. Its trigger by frustration and the feeling of being a loser, your favorite fighter went through the same thing I am sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by HornfingerAnyone who's not been fighting shot fighters at catch weights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainSo if you think Pacs past oppenents have been so weak, tell me whos been fighting better opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhoustonPac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Name one fighter who has done better than the fighter of the decade?
We don’t even hear of those problems when we all go get our blood tested or something. Look how close to a fight has Manny given blood with no problems what so ever (check out the videos) and see how Freddy Roach, Bob Arum, and Manny’s excuses don’t make sense at all, they don’t match each other, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Don’t get me wrong, like I have said before, I can totally see Manny beating Floyd by KO/TKO or Floyd gliding to a decision.
Dude! You don't get it! The truth there is no test to detect the substance in Pacquiao's body that gives him the superhuman Chi. It is not known in the western world so they don't know what to look for. It's an ancient Asian secret that Bruce Lee threatened to reveal to his students when they reached their potential and why he was assassinated because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoWe don’t even hear of those problems when we all go get our blood tested or something. Look how close to a fight has Manny given blood with no problems what so ever (check out the videos) and see how Freddy Roach, Bob Arum, and Manny’s excuses don’t make sense at all, they don’t match each other, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Don’t get me wrong, like I have said before, I can totally see Manny beating Floyd by KO/TKO or Floyd gliding to a decision.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyDude! You don't get it! The truth there is no test to detect the substance in Pacquiao's body that gives him the superhuman Chi. It is not known in the western world so they don't know what to look for. It's an ancient Asian secret that Bruce Lee threatened to reveal to his students when they reached their potential and why he was assassinated because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoWe don’t even hear of those problems when we all go get our blood tested or something. Look how close to a fight has Manny given blood with no problems what so ever (check out the videos) and see how Freddy Roach, Bob Arum, and Manny’s excuses don’t make sense at all, they don’t match each other, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Don’t get me wrong, like I have said before, I can totally see Manny beating Floyd by KO/TKO or Floyd gliding to a decision.
Say what? Can I get some of that stuff? ;D
Where did this idiot go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainSo if you think Pacs past oppenents have been so weak, tell me whos been fighting better opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhoustonPac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Name one fighter who has done better than the fighter of the decade?
Psssst.. Secret!Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyDude! You don't get it! The truth there is no test to detect the substance in Pacquiao's body that gives him the superhuman Chi. It is not known in the western world so they don't know what to look for. It's an ancient Asian secret that Bruce Lee threatened to reveal to his students when they reached their potential and why he was assassinated because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoWe don’t even hear of those problems when we all go get our blood tested or something. Look how close to a fight has Manny given blood with no problems what so ever (check out the videos) and see how Freddy Roach, Bob Arum, and Manny’s excuses don’t make sense at all, they don’t match each other, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Don’t get me wrong, like I have said before, I can totally see Manny beating Floyd by KO/TKO or Floyd gliding to a decision.
Say what? Can I get some of that stuff? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI
obviously your man crush for Pacman is blinding common sense, I gave a valid opinion and instead of posting your reasons against what I said.....you come out with "who else is blah blah blah"....hmmm...lets see....WHO hasn't fought at a bunch of catchweights and ran from sugar shane mosley, and who's coach has been on video saying how "Cotto is washed up, so we took the fight", "shane is too big", "DLH has never fought this light", "He'll be a punching bag for us"....etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainWhere did this idiot go?Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainSo if you think Pacs past oppenents have been so weak, tell me whos been fighting better opposition?Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhoustonPac made 40Mil for the Rito nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::
Can you and do you REALLY feel that Pac proved his "greatness", name 1 fighter out of his last 6 that was ACTUALLY a challenge. I mean, there's video of even ROACH talking about every fighter he's beaten and pretty much agreed with those that say Pacman is fighting past their prime, shell fighters. So seriously, and I'm not trying to be a mean spirited. But lets take a real look at his last 6 fights.
In NO order
Rito
Hoya
Cotto
Clottey
Hatton
Diaz
None of those fighters posed a threat, not 1. All were either weight drained, past their prime, have been KO'd, abused, questionable losses......I mean really. Other than the "names" having clout, none of those fighters really posed ANY threat or were worth watching.
Name one fighter who has done better than the fighter of the decade?
Sergio, Paul, Bute, JMM(hell, JMM went after a 135lb that was undefeated and a rising start, pacman hasn't done that), so spare me.
QUALITY VS QUANTITY.
Just because pacroid is fighting names, doesn't make him "best fighter ever", THEY are all NAMES, non of them in their prime, NONE OF THEM posing a threat, NONE of them AT THEIR WEIGHT CLASS!!!! Dude, seriously...
When you're able to have an intelligent debate, with proof of your opinion, I'll check back, if all you can do is talk about your man love and digress from the convo, i'll stay away.
You can just ask Ariza in Pac's corner:lickish:.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyPsssst.. Secret!Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcallQuote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyDude! You don't get it! The truth there is no test to detect the substance in Pacquiao's body that gives him the superhuman Chi. It is not known in the western world so they don't know what to look for. It's an ancient Asian secret that Bruce Lee threatened to reveal to his students when they reached their potential and why he was assassinated because of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChinoWe don’t even hear of those problems when we all go get our blood tested or something. Look how close to a fight has Manny given blood with no problems what so ever (check out the videos) and see how Freddy Roach, Bob Arum, and Manny’s excuses don’t make sense at all, they don’t match each other, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by :::PSL:::The NSAC backed him up on that though. They don't want any fighter's blood drawn so close to a fight because of risk of infection, the development of hematomas and the possibility of nicking a vein.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Don’t get me wrong, like I have said before, I can totally see Manny beating Floyd by KO/TKO or Floyd gliding to a decision.
Say what? Can I get some of that stuff? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI
Who has been saying that Pacquiao is the best fighter ever? It is not our generation but the future generation who will judge that.Quote:
Originally Posted by carpetrepairhouston
You are saying this with the benefit of hindsight.Quote:
THEY are all NAMES, non of them in their prime, NONE OF THEM posing a threat,
Pacquiao's fight with dela Hoya is considered a mismatch in Oscar's favor. So he was considered an overwhelming threat before the fight.
Hatton is undefeated in the weight class that Manny fought him in and a number of posters in this forum considered that Hatton will win. So many posters saw Ricky as a threat.
Cotto and Margarito are considered by some to be too big for Manny even though they're the underdog. Some still saw them as threats.
AFTER watching how Pacquiao dominated them, they are now not considered as threats.
Margarito - went down 1 weight class. He had been in the same weight class that he fought Manny in in 9 fights before that.Quote:
NONE of them AT THEIR WEIGHT CLASS!!!! Dude, seriously...
Clottey - had 2 previous fights in the same weight class that he fought Manny in.
Cotto - was 1-2 lbs heavier in his 8 previous bouts. 1-2 lbs !!!
Hatton - Manny fought him in his weight division.
dela Hoya - went down 1 weight division to fight Manny who went up 2 weight divisions (some would consider it as 3 weight division since his fight with David Diaz did not prove that he was truly tested in that division).
Although the question was not directed at me, I have presented proof that discredits your contention.