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I said that Manny would knock him out, not because JMM was bad or anything but because he was fighting too heavy, I do admit it without problems. However, I never bad mouthed Marquez, I always had tons of respect and admiration for Nacho and the Marquez brothers. Yestereday looked(only saw the fight late through a chopped stream) like a total robbery and it's a real disgrace.
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I was pulling for JMM all the way, I had him an underdog for thr same reasons as Andre.
This blew up in Arum. Roach and Pacs face. They picked a 38 year old Marquez who got dominated by Floyd at his only trip above 140.
They figured as usual it was a safe bet to put him in with a fighter with highmileage and a big name to keep the great Hype machine going, Pacquiao is bull crap ever since Diaz to the Zombie Delahoya, the already broken and Brutally Knocked out Hatton, Cotto and Margarito to a horribly faded Mosely. I wish people would finally get it
Those sneaky bastards thought that they could erase any doubt from the public outcry of the firm screwing that JMM got in their last fights by making him heavier and older absolutely banking on he lost a few steps. So the phony Myth of Pac would storm him and they would say SEE WE KO'D HIM THE TALK IS OVER!
I hope these frauds keep getting the backlash they deserve. Someone has to finally be bright enough that just because you beat a camaro in a 1/4 mile race dosent make you speed racer when you leave out the detail that the car is a 94 with 135,000 miles on it. These bullshit artists have been doing this for years and Im glad Marquez made them pay
Manny fights a tough fight against Marquez and now he's a fraud? Are you kidding me? This isn't the time to put Manny down. It's the opposite! If Pacquiao had walked through him, everyone on this board would have said "Manny was too big," "he punches too hard," "he's on ped's," "he was cherrypicking because JMM is old" etc. Then he gets into a tough fight with Marquez and people are screaming Pac's a fraud!?! Come on, man. JMM is a legend. He was before this fight. The writing has been on the wall. He only went above 135 once and that was against the best in the world. Losing against Mayweather is no shame. Marquez fans knew he had Pacquiao's number. Pacquiao knew this was going to be a tough fight, which is why he took this training camp more seriously. It doesn't mean any less of his other accomplishments. It means Marquez and Pacquiao make for good damn fights. If you want to put Pacquiao down, drop him in your p4p rankings (which I will be), but he isn't a fraud. Give JMM his due. Geez.
Im screaming boxing is fraudulent (but we all knew that anyway), Manny just happens to be over on the collecting $ side along with them this time.
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Well, well, well, hindsight is really something. I remember people here felt differently at the time of those fights against fighters like Cotto and Hatton. Now Pac cherry picked those guys for easy wins. Should have said that then and not now. It's disingenuous tbh.
Just like I said that JMM won't go past 5 with this version of Pac. I was wrong, no going back on what I said and made up some excuses with hindsight.
You can check every single one of my picks leading up to every one of those fights.
Not once did I think any of those fighters would win.
I think the one which I said would be competative was Cotto and also that Hatton would go past 6 but even then I picked Pac to win. Even more so vs. ODLH and I have proven that time and time again that I said ODLH would look like corpse trying to hit 147 this was when Floyd Sr. announced that they had plans to go down in weight and fight Pac.
Same thing when he fought Clottey & Tony I said they'd both be targets all night. Two straight forward guys who come at you one way.
Diaz fight.. I mean come on whoever did not see that as just a fucken mismatch is blind seriously and that whole "It was a moving up in weight fight" well when JMM moved up to Lightweight he fought the lineal champ in Casamayor. Pac could have fought him too but he fought Diaz instead.
I give Pac full credit for beating Cotto & Hatton I believe those 2 fighters were top caliber and solid opponents. However I can't credit him for fighting Clottey, Tony, Diaz, ODLH & SSM. I said prior to fights after and I'll say it again.
Oh and I almost forgot the great matchup and sudden rejuvenation that was SSM... Please. :rolleyes:
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This post is aimed at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who at any point said ANYTHING or even remotely close to negative about JMM...
Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
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Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
As serious as those people were when they posted that JMM was garbage and that he was done... ;)
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I honestly thought Marquez would lose this fight convincingly. I like both fighters a lot but this was an amazing display by JMM. He won enough rounds clearly in my opinion that only someone with bias or incompetence could give the decision to Manny. Going into the 11th it was already decided unless Manny could score knockdowns and that didn't happen. Not only did Marquez get robbed of a clear victory over his biggest rival, he was robbed of a legit claim of being a champion in yet another division. He undoubtedly belongs in the hall of fame without this fight, but it is a shame that people looking back on his career that didn't experience while it was happening will not get the proper story seeing a MD loss in his biggest fight, while being a clear underdog in the fight.
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I honestly thought Marquez would lose this fight convincingly. I like both fighters a lot but this was an amazing display by JMM. He won enough rounds clearly in my opinion that only someone with bias or incompetence could give the decision to Manny. Going into the 11th it was already decided unless Manny could score knockdowns and that didn't happen. Not only did Marquez get robbed of a clear victory over his biggest rival, he was robbed of a legit claim of being a champion in yet another division. He undoubtedly belongs in the hall of fame without this fight, but it is a shame that people looking back on his career that didn't experience while it was happening will not get the proper story seeing a MD loss in his biggest fight, while being a clear underdog in the fight.
Do you know how many doors will open to Marquez because of this fight? No one thought he would effective at 147. It turns out he is maybe better at 147 than possibly Manny himself.
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I haven't been around much lately and I know this is easy to say, but I thought JMM would win the fight. I haven't seen it, so whether he did or not I can't judge.
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don't be such a girl.
form suggested he would get spanked. Everyone was more than happy that he didnt and we're equally pissed at the decision.
This.
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FUCK YOU EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU BREATHE...
This obviously is not aimed at me. Marquez winning was a damn near given to me. But do your thing Mick. Hunt them bitch ass muthafukkas down
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CutMeMick
This post is aimed at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who at any point said ANYTHING or even remotely close to negative about JMM...
Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
As serious as those people were when they posted that JMM was garbage and that he was done... ;)
Sorry to hear that man, I thought you above that kind of childish shit. I've never said that Marquez was garbage or felt like he was "done", but I didn't think he had a snowball's chance in hell of being competitive with Pacquiao in their 3rd fight.
And to be honest after I found out that some of Marquez' fans were tossing bottles and other trash in the ring, I'm glad he lost.
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CutMeMick
This post is aimed at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who at any point said ANYTHING or even remotely close to negative about JMM...
Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
As serious as those people were when they posted that JMM was garbage and that he was done... ;)
Sorry to hear that man, I thought you above that kind of childish shit. I've never said that Marquez was garbage or felt like he was "done", but I didn't think he had a snowball's chance in hell of being competitive with Pacquiao in their 3rd fight.
And to be honest after I found out that some of Marquez' fans were tossing bottles and other trash in the ring, I'm glad he lost.
Anything else you want to say? :)
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This post is aimed at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who at any point said ANYTHING or even remotely close to negative about JMM...
Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
As serious as those people were when they posted that JMM was garbage and that he was done... ;)
Sorry to hear that man, I thought you above that kind of childish shit. I've never said that Marquez was garbage or felt like he was "done", but I didn't think he had a snowball's chance in hell of being competitive with Pacquiao in their 3rd fight.
And to be honest after I found out that some of Marquez' fans were tossing bottles and other trash in the ring, I'm glad he lost.
That's just a moronic statement. Bottles were aimed at Manny Pacquiao. Not really the ring
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This post is aimed at EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU who at any point said ANYTHING or even remotely close to negative about JMM...
Wow Mick, I hope your not serious, if so, this is lame.
As serious as those people were when they posted that JMM was garbage and that he was done... ;)
Sorry to hear that man, I thought you above that kind of childish shit. I've never said that Marquez was garbage or felt like he was "done", but I didn't think he had a snowball's chance in hell of being competitive with Pacquiao in their 3rd fight.
And to be honest after I found out that some of Marquez' fans were tossing bottles and other trash in the ring, I'm glad he lost.
That's just a moronic statement.
Bottles were aimed at Manny Pacquiao. Not really the ring
That's the point you dumb fuck.
