Romney vs. Obama - 2012 Presidential Debates - Let's score it!

Take Rasmussen as you will but this shows Obama leading by no more than 3 points in any of the "battleground" states

Election 2012 - Rasmussen Reports™

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Originally Posted by VictorCharlie

Take Rasmussen as you will but this shows Obama leading by no more than 3 points in any of the "battleground" states

Election 2012 - Rasmussen Reports�

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Pffft Kirkland will tell you that "Rasmussen has always been in the bag for Republicans"....but then go on to deny any knowledge of the media have a liberal slant.

Obama is like Blair was when he came into power. Everyone had high hopes which were unrealistic to expect and he has done the best job with the ‘hand’ that he has been given.

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Originally Posted by Master

Obama is like Blair was when he came into power. Everyone had high hopes which were unrealistic to expect and he has done the best job with the ‘hand’ that he has been given.

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No, the issue with Obama is that he was never vetted properly (by the media or other candidates) the first time! So he went on to make outrageous and insane promises ie "I'll cut the debt in half" & "I'll stop the seas from rising" (whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean) and nobody called him on it or asked how and worst yet, nobody followed up a year later, 2 years later, and now that he's got a guy infront of him that can debate and who has true Executive experience in the public & private sector and has a record of bipartisanship so Obama showed what he was last night...an empty vessel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto



Here's the actual clip. I guess everyone should watch it and judge for themselves whether Obama promised he'd stop the seas from rising. Seems a bit nit-picky and petty to me.

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Originally Posted by TitoFan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2pZSvq9bto



Here's the actual clip. I guess everyone should watch it and judge for themselves whether Obama promised he'd stop the seas from rising. Seems a bit nit-picky and petty to me.

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Really??? Obama fucking said it man. What? Am I NOT supposed to take him at his word???

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Master

Obama is like Blair was when he came into power. Everyone had high hopes which were unrealistic to expect and he has done the best job with the ‘hand’ that he has been given.

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No, the issue with Obama is that he was never vetted properly (by the media or other candidates) the first time! So he went on to make outrageous and insane promises ie "I'll cut the debt in half" & "I'll stop the seas from rising" (whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean) and nobody called him on it or asked how and worst yet, nobody followed up a year later, 2 years later, and now that he's got a guy infront of him that can debate and who has true Executive experience in the public & private sector and has a record of bipartisanship so Obama showed what he was last night...an empty vessel.

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Are you currently standing in 3 ft of seawater which covers the entire country? Success for Obama!

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Master

Obama is like Blair was when he came into power. Everyone had high hopes which were unrealistic to expect and he has done the best job with the ‘hand’ that he has been given.

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No, the issue with Obama is that he was never vetted properly (by the media or other candidates) the first time! So he went on to make outrageous and insane promises ie "I'll cut the debt in half" & "I'll stop the seas from rising" (whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean) and nobody called him on it or asked how and worst yet, nobody followed up a year later, 2 years later, and now that he's got a guy infront of him that can debate and who has true Executive experience in the public & private sector and has a record of bipartisanship so Obama showed what he was last night...an empty vessel.

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Are you currently standing in 3 ft of seawater which covers the entire country? Success for Obama!

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Ha ha ha....... fucking A.... bro!

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by El Kabong

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Show me cross tabs from a poll that shows it's based on 2008 turnout. Actual data from an actual poll rather than a link to some nonsense you read somewhere.

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Bup, bup, bup....you provide your polls

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You're the one making a claim about polls. I'm asking you to back your claim up. But you know doing so will mean exposing yourself to facts and evidence andif you read enough of them you'll discover, d'oh, you're wrong again. You're breaking out in hives just at the thought of factual stuff, aren't you?

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You made a claim that Obama is up 5-10% in battleground states.... provide the polls please

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Latest Swing State Polls

Obama Widens Lead Over Romney in Crucial Battleground States, Polls Find

Now, you claimed that the pollsters are basing Democrat participation on Democrat 2008 turnout. Provide actual data to back that up.

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Next up the debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan.
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - October 11th.
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

I hope Ryan tears this liberal dip-shit Biden a new asshole next thursday.

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule « 2012 Election Central

Cheers :usa:

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The gloves will be off in this one. The vice prez contenders don't have tobe presidential. When Ryan starts lying about stuff I'm guessing Biden will call him on it.

They think Obama is going to win North Carolina? WOW...I mean, I'm not going to attempt to tell professionals how to do their jobs but WOW.

Florida: Suffolk - Used a sample size of 600 registered voters, not likely voters. Also it does not state wheather the voters asked were Republican, Democrat, Independent or other. It also mentions that 52% of those asked figured Obama would dominate Romney in the debates....well I'd venture to guess that this past debate has shaken their confidence in that at the VERY least.

Nevada: We Ask America - Sample size 1,152 of likely voters, doesn't state the political affiliation of the voters so you can't sift through the material at all.

New Hampshire: Public Policy Polling - sample size 862 likely voters and then one with 401 likely voters as well. They too provide 0 details about the voters although I'm certain they asked (having participated in polling before I would know)

North Carolina: SurveyUSA - +/- 4.2% they call the poll 49% for Obama, 47% for Romney meaning it's a race within the margin of error. The WRAL poll had Romney leading 45% to 44%. Also it says Romney is winning Independent voters & 15% of democrat voter are NOT supporting Obama's reelection

There's a sample size of 589 in that other poll

Here's the deal, the sample sizes are too small, the political affiliation is not reported on, and lots of those races are within the margin of error OR the polls had been done prior to the first debate which I believe changes things SIGNIFICANTLY

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Next up the debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan.
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - October 11th.
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

I hope Ryan tears this liberal dip-shit Biden a new asshole next thursday.

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule � 2012 Election Central

Cheers :usa:

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The gloves will be off in this one. The vice prez contenders don't have tobe presidential. When Ryan starts lying about stuff I'm guessing Biden will call him on it.

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....I don't know if you realize this.....but Joe Biden is kind of a fucking moron...hope that helps ;)

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Next up the debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan.
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - October 11th.
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

I hope Ryan tears this liberal dip-shit Biden a new asshole next thursday.

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule � 2012 Election Central

Cheers :usa:

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The gloves will be off in this one. The vice prez contenders don't have tobe presidential. When Ryan starts lying about stuff I'm guessing Biden will call him on it.

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It would seem both candidates were bullshitting a little bit.

FactCheck.org : Dubious Denver Debate Declarations

My personal favorite was that free markets can't exist w/o regulations.

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Mars_ax

Next up the debate between Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan.
Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time - October 11th.
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky.
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

I hope Ryan tears this liberal dip-shit Biden a new asshole next thursday.

2012 Presidential Debate Schedule � 2012 Election Central

Cheers :usa:

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The gloves will be off in this one. The vice prez contenders don't have tobe presidential. When Ryan starts lying about stuff I'm guessing Biden will call him on it.

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So I take it that Romney and Ryan are "liars" but BO & Bi aren't?

I keep reading this bullshit that "voters" trust BO more then they do Romney, oh really? Why the fuck would you trust or have confidence in Obama, I honestly don't get this.