Johnson was beyond bad, he never came to fight, it was one of the worst displays from a HW I've seen in a few years....shameful!Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
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Johnson was beyond bad, he never came to fight, it was one of the worst displays from a HW I've seen in a few years....shameful!Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
I dont know.... Hayes against Wladamir was pretty dire;)
Maybe hes a big Bruce Lee fan "fighting without fighting"
Briggs vs the White poddle set the bar and then Briggs/Ibragimov but that was right up in the mix. Would like to see the punch stats from Johnsons end even though they are usually exaggerated by a factor of 10. I bet he threw about 6 right hands the entire contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by mofo2Johnson was beyond bad, he never came to fight, it was one of the worst displays from a HW I've seen in a few years....shameful!Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
That maybe true but until he goes the distance i ain't changing my mind. There is nothing to suggest that he will go the distance aswell. It can go either way! Unless you know something we don't all know? Like your his coach?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzThe reason Price hasn't gone the distance has a lot to do with the fact that he has great stopping power. He stopped Audley in less time than it took Haye, McDermott with none of the trouble that Fury took, those are hardly negatives. There is nothing to suggest his fitness would prevent him going 12 rounds and people going on about his chin because of one amateur fight years ago is getting a bit desperate now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave1066
Like Inuit said. If you ain't got the gass you ain't punching hard!
Don't get me wrong these are only criticisms. I'm not being negative. Price comes across well in interviews. I don't dislike the fighter. He does have good stopping power. I do like the guy. But i ain't no fan boy. I keep a level head when watching a fight. But Audley. That was just a pay cheque. How did that test him atall. He needs an opponent that tests him. An ideal fight prime Vs prime Mike Tyson Vs David Price. Or an Even prime Foreman. See who has the greatest power.
The issue that concerns me the most about team Fury is their reluctance to entertain a fight with Price. Forget the discussions about who they have fought, because history has shown that is no barometer for a future encounter.
I like Fury, and he's taken some good, testing fights thus far, but if he is serious about facing Vitali or Wlad next year he needs to step up in class in a huge way in the future. Whilst people carp on about the likes of Chisora and Johnson as decent opponents, they are missing the point that however good they are in their own right, their fighting style is about as far removed from a brother K as it is possible to get.
Fury has made a name fighting smaller, lethargic heavies who are not too heavy handed. In Vitali he has a busy power puncher of comparable size.
What could Fury do to prepare? Find a technically adept, tall, rangy, power punching boxer who will be busy enough to push him. I can't think of any current heavyweight that would be better preparation than Price, which is why it baffles me that team Fury aren't chasing this to the ends of the earth.
Fury needs Price.
David Price. I just can't get over Fury's knockdown against the limited Canadian, and I haven't seen Price hurt like that against comparable opposition.
Fury is simply following the David Haye gameplan: only fight risky fights if he is facing a Klitschko. He won't face Price, unless he's cashing out, or the fight makes s$nse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobthepen
From what I understand, if Vitali retires, which at 41, which there is a good chance of, the title will become vacant, and Fury will go against the winner of Bermaine Stiverne and Cris Arreola. That's a fight I'm more interested in seeing.
When fury offered price the fight, Maloney said they couldnt because he was contracted to sky then that turned out to be bullshit. Go back a page and read the link I put up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobthepen
Prices last 3 fights have hot progressively worse whereas Tyson Fury is winning new fans each time he fights because everyone can see the improvements he ks making with each fight nd is now a genuine contender whereas Price is knocking about with British level journeymen in their 40's.
David Haye didnt want to fight Johnson a few years ago when he moved to heavy. Beating Johnson convincingly over 12 is far more impressive than stopping Skelton in 2. Price had some jittery moments when Skelton came forward. There is a reason Maloney wont move him up in class, hes shit scared of that jaw. Its like having a Ferrari with glass tyres.
A little harsh there on Haye. Who else should he have fought? He took on Ruiz and Valuev and won a strap. Both are a cut above the usual dross and have been world champions.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFury is simply following the David Haye gameplan: only fight risky fights if he is facing a Klitschko. He won't face Price, unless he's cashing out, or the fight makes s$nse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobthepen
From what I understand, if Vitali retires, which at 41, which there is a good chance of, the title will become vacant, and Fury will go against the winner of Bermaine Stiverne and Cris Arreola. That's a fight I'm more interested in seeing.
I hope Vitali does retire, and I think Arreola against Fury is a cracking matchup.
Price has done well for himself and I am impressed with his power. Price also comes across well I interviews whereas Fury does not at times. I still prefer Fury but think Price should take on the Klit brothers first in 2013. Fury has got time on his side and needs to get more confidence. Fury was in shape but he fought within himself and needs to be tested against someone who is trying to win against him.
Fury or Price would beat Adamek.
I dunno, Haye came to fight against Wlad, he just quickly found that he couldnt get past the jab and he had no Plan B...Johnson on the other hand did nothing even when it was clear he was a number of rounds down, so I suppose you could be right, he could quite possibly be a student of Master Lee :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
6 half hearted right hands ;D why bother turning up if that's all you are going to offer, I wonder wether he could be sparring with Fraudley Harrison and has picked up some bad habits :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitBriggs vs the White poddle set the bar and then Briggs/Ibragimov but that was right up in the mix. Would like to see the punch stats from Johnsons end even though they are usually exaggerated by a factor of 10. I bet he threw about 6 right hands the entire contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by mofo2Johnson was beyond bad, he never came to fight, it was one of the worst displays from a HW I've seen in a few years....shameful!Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
Fury does not need the price fight right now.
He is on the verge of fighting for a world title, why would he go back and fight price who is fighting total losers. Fury has time on his side, he will become a world champion. I think price will become one also. When one of them is champion that's when the fight should be made.
I like both fighters, but both are on different paths and don't need to fight right now.
Fury has fought stronger opposition than Price, and is 5 years younger. If he's taking a "non-risk" path then what is Price doing?Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratFury is simply following the David Haye gameplan: only fight risky fights if he is facing a Klitschko. He won't face Price, unless he's cashing out, or the fight makes s$nse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobthepen
From what I understand, if Vitali retires, which at 41, which there is a good chance of, the title will become vacant, and Fury will go against the winner of Bermaine Stiverne and Cris Arreola. That's a fight I'm more interested in seeing.
To be fair Fury's only really beaten Chisora and Kingpin.Quote:
Originally Posted by boyla