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I'll tell you all something though, Broner is not Amir Khan. He's not much of a mover nor does he cut off the ring all that well. Since Paulie has no pop and he does win (I too thought Cano won) volume, movement and Jabs. I see him as a bigger Miguel Vazquez with less life in his legs who I pegged to win against Broner.
I can actually see Paulie winning this one if he does what he does well: circle and jab.
I don't think that Pauli has enough in his tank to sustain Broner and I am pretty sure that Broner's manager picked Pauli exactly for that reason; to teach Adrian how to box against a huge mover with speed.... without great risks of losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
Thank God. That is, that he is not Amir Khan. I have to disagree on the not cutting off the ring thing. That is exactly what Broner does with his extra wide stance behind the shoulder while seeking to destroy you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavilaJones
I'm not mad at Broner or his team for making this move. But to be a super, superstar, you have to bet the best in that division. Broner has no plans on facing Floyd. That's the first thing. Secondly, who after Paulie(should he win) will he fight to put him on the next level? Bradley or Khan? Bradley don't pull in that much money and Khan is part of GBP plan of a "not on paper 140 tourney".
Winner of Judah vs Garcia will face winner of Peterson vs Matthysee. Then that winner will face Khan. So who's left at 147? Unless he's planning on challenging Pacman and/or JMM. In which, should be challenging JMM now anyway. If he wants to be the SUPER, SUPERSTAR!!!
I dont like this fight and Broner skipping 140.
If Broner wins he should fight someone like Soto Karass or Maidana.
Perhaps thats why he's bypassing 140. Everyone is busy. In addition most of the top 140 pounders are going to be vaulting to 147 anyway. There is no obligation morally or otherwise for him to stop and toil at 140 anymore then it was for Armstrong prior to Barney Ross.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant Live
Lucas has no plans of moving up, Khan is staying at 140, Matt/Peterson vs Garcia/Judah winner gets Khan.
Seems to me Broner is just waiting on 140 to burn out and wants no part of it.
How does he become the next Floyd if he doesn't fight the current one? Floyd only became Floyd when he beat the then top PPV fighter. Same goes for Manny. Broner has to beat an unbeaten Floyd or it's going to be a long hard road for him to do anything like Floyd has in terms of making money.Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin
Broner needs to beat the best at lightweight before moving up to 140lb not moving up 2 divisions to fight an B level champion. If Broner wins, will he stay at the weight in which he may be too small for? Does he go back down to the lower weights? Strange decision.
Normally I'd agree with you but Burns is going to need a warm up and Gamboa is in some kind of Arum bubble. Burns then has Warren to deal with and a court battle. Not sure why he should hang around when he cant get either other top dog in the division. In addition 140 is pretty dam busy and if you count breaks after matches then he could be toiling there waiting for someone and by the time he probably gets one they would be most likely headed to 147 anyway. Size imo wont be a factor. Broner fought as high as 140 earlier in his career and over 135 several times. He's got a huge frame and wont have any issues at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It does take time to acclimatise to the bigger weight. Floyd struggled at the weight at first he has grown into the weight and is at his best.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitNormally I'd agree with you but Burns is going to need a warm up and Gamboa is in some kind of Arum bubble. Burns then has Warren to deal with and a court battle. Not sure why he should hang around when he cant get either other top dog in the division. In addition 140 is pretty dam busy and if you count breaks after matches then he could be toiling there waiting for someone and by the time he probably gets one they would be most likely headed to 147 anyway. Size imo wont be a factor. Broner fought as high as 140 earlier in his career and over 135 several times. He's got a huge frame and wont have any issues at 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Its ALL about the money and making it now for Paulie and also maintaining the numbers for Broner. Very good fight for both camps!
I'm a bit shocked that this is a real fight. It's an odd curiosity and potentially a very decent match up.
I hope Paulie can show up with a great gameplan and stick with it as you can definitely take rounds off Broner. Rees was a hobbit and he easily tagged Broner. Paulie doesn't need to hurt him, but to just keep him at bay, pop the jabs, quick one-twos, and to be gone. Vary it a little and keep vanishing. A nice big ring would be ideal. Maybe in some respects Paulie could keep him a little honest, his right does seem a little stronger these days. He can certainly slice you.
Broner comes across to me as little bit retarded too with this bizarre rapping and gurning routine. I just find it irritating and would rather have his career stopped than have to see more of it. I don't think he is even very fun to watch, he just seems to overwhelm people who have poor ring IQ. Paulie is at least a real step up.
Boner was a pretty accomplished amatuer boxer. He knows how to box on his toes and move laterially. He is working on his pro style which is getting his feet settled into the canvas to generate some power! 'It will be interesting if Paulie comes in boxing and makes Broner get up on his toes to close ground between them. Then he has to make the quick transition from boxer to puncher that most fighters like Paulie and Khan have a tuff time doing. I think Donaire does it very well but he will be challenged against Rigo to show superior abilities to act and react quicker than Rigo who is very quick on his feet and in his mind!
I believe Broner is capable of making the changes but that doesn't mean he can't struggle if Paulie comes in and makes this a boxing match. I like the match up for both guys, the interviews should be comical. ( and meaningless) The titles are meaningless for now (to many to keep track of) its all about promotion for now, We get a chance to see a talented kid grow in the sport and we'll see if he is true to the game or another BS'er! Ray
He is avoiding guys at 140...you think he is going to go up and fight the best fighter on the planet at this stage of his career?! They are trying to hype this kid up by having him fight no real threats right now. Unless this fight took place in a few years (by which time Floyd will be retired or will not risk fighting a much younger fighter)...it's not happening. And as i mentioned earlier...they are playing up the whole older brother/younger brother angle. But i agree with you that it will be tough for him to match Floyd in the money making department. Until Mayweather retires or loses...no one is matching him in the promotion/PPV business..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingHow does he become the next Floyd if he doesn't fight the current one? Floyd only became Floyd when he beat the then top PPV fighter. Same goes for Manny. Broner has to beat an unbeaten Floyd or it's going to be a long hard road for him to do anything like Floyd has in terms of making money.Quote:
Originally Posted by zhubin