Hughie. Ready for Price?

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i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...o-maloney.html

Peter Fury is certain that the fight will sell 80,000 tickets and can't believe Price turned down £125,000 ;D Genius.

Basically they ducked Price because they would have lost the purse bids. They didn't want to end up on BoxNation (the irony) because they have Channel 5. Well that worked out well.

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i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...o-maloney.html

Peter Fury is certain that the fight will sell 80,000 tickets and can't believe Price turned down £125,000 ;D Genius.

Basically they ducked Price because they would have lost the purse bids. They didn't want to end up on BoxNation (the irony) because they have Channel 5. Well that worked out well.

Tyson went on to sign up for a pay per view event and when he beats Chisora again he will be in line for a title shot. David is where he is and wont go much further than where he was.

Re: Hughie. Ready for Price?

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Tyson went on to sign up for a pay per view event and when he beats Chisora again he will be in line for a title shot. David is where he is and wont go much further than where he was.

Yeah Tyson is living large because he's feasting on bums. Once he fights a decent heavyweight he'll lose...hence why he balked at fighting Tony Thompson

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Originally Posted by erics44

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

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I cant believe people are still backing Price!

He's only lost to Tony Thompson twice who is a very good very underrated boxer. Tony Thompson called out YOUR BOY Tyson Fury and Tyson didn't want anything to do with him and rightfully so!

Oh and let me go ahead and post your immediate reaction
"But Pulev beat Thompson and Abell knockeddown Pulev and Fury stopped Abell"

and I'll respond with the simple fact that Tyson Fury fought Joey Abell instead of someone good, it's not like the big oaf didn't have options, but whatever we all know he's really hiding from Wlad. Tyson Fury is hiding from Wlad because he's scared and that's why he's talking so much.

I do agree that fury and his promoter want nothing to do with tony the tiger.

Fury is good and he must be better than david price when you look at the opponents they have faced but he wants no part of an old dangerous fighter in tony thompson.

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I do agree that fury and his promoter want nothing to do with tony the tiger.

Fury is good and he must be better than david price when you look at the opponents they have faced but he wants no part of an old dangerous fighter in tony thompson.

I'm glad you agree with me

However, who has Fury fought that poses as much of a threat as Thompson? Chisora? Johnson? Cunningham? None of those guys are as good as Thompson

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I do agree that fury and his promoter want nothing to do with tony the tiger.

Fury is good and he must be better than david price when you look at the opponents they have faced but he wants no part of an old dangerous fighter in tony thompson.

I'm glad you agree with me

However, who has Fury fought that poses as much of a threat as Thompson? Chisora? Johnson? Cunningham? None of those guys are as good as Thompson

To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

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To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

Yeah....yeah they are. Cunningham hasn't proven much at heavyweight and he wasn't all that powerful of a cruiserweight. Kevin Johnson never lets his hands go. Dereck Chisora is mentally unstable. Tony Thompson at least ACTS like a professional. He shows up to every fight, he's always in decent shape, he has only ever been stopped twice (both by Wladimir) which means he is competitive, and he's not afraid of taking seemingly dangerous fights and actually trying to win them.

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To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

Yeah....yeah they are. Cunningham hasn't proven much at heavyweight and he wasn't all that powerful of a cruiserweight. Kevin Johnson never lets his hands go. Dereck Chisora is mentally unstable. Tony Thompson at least ACTS like a professional. He shows up to every fight, he's always in decent shape, he has only ever been stopped twice (both by Wladimir) which means he is competitive, and he's not afraid of taking seemingly dangerous fights and actually trying to win them.

I think Fury beats him.

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To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

Yeah....yeah they are. Cunningham hasn't proven much at heavyweight and he wasn't all that powerful of a cruiserweight. Kevin Johnson never lets his hands go. Dereck Chisora is mentally unstable. Tony Thompson at least ACTS like a professional. He shows up to every fight, he's always in decent shape, he has only ever been stopped twice (both by Wladimir) which means he is competitive, and he's not afraid of taking seemingly dangerous fights and actually trying to win them.

I think Fury beats him.

Fucking hell! After his last showing against Pulev? Who who want to watch Thompson?

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i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...o-maloney.html

Peter Fury is certain that the fight will sell 80,000 tickets and can't believe Price turned down £125,000 ;D Genius.

Basically they ducked Price because they would have lost the purse bids. They didn't want to end up on BoxNation (the irony) because they have Channel 5. Well that worked out well.

Tyson went on to sign up for a pay per view event and when he beats Chisora again he will be in line for a title shot. David is where he is and wont go much further than where he was.

BoxNation was too small a platform for Fury when the Price fight was available but a couple of years later he signs a deal with the very same channel and is playing second fiddle to a man he's already beat. A man that he has to beat again to get in a position for a possible "world" title fight.

Seems like team Fury missed a trick by dodging Price. I mean 80,000 people will get a ridiculous amount of publicity in the boxing world wherever you're from.

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i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

Well I'd appreciate it if you named all the ones you remember. It would be a big help for me. Thanks.

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To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

Yeah....yeah they are. Cunningham hasn't proven much at heavyweight and he wasn't all that powerful of a cruiserweight. Kevin Johnson never lets his hands go. Dereck Chisora is mentally unstable. Tony Thompson at least ACTS like a professional. He shows up to every fight, he's always in decent shape, he has only ever been stopped twice (both by Wladimir) which means he is competitive, and he's not afraid of taking seemingly dangerous fights and actually trying to win them.

I think Fury beats him.

Fucking hell! After his last showing against Pulev? Who who want to watch Thompson?

It's not about "who wants to see him" it's more on merit.

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To be fair these fighters are not that far off the level of Thompson.

Yeah....yeah they are. Cunningham hasn't proven much at heavyweight and he wasn't all that powerful of a cruiserweight. Kevin Johnson never lets his hands go. Dereck Chisora is mentally unstable. Tony Thompson at least ACTS like a professional. He shows up to every fight, he's always in decent shape, he has only ever been stopped twice (both by Wladimir) which means he is competitive, and he's not afraid of taking seemingly dangerous fights and actually trying to win them.

I think Fury beats him.

Fucking hell! After his last showing against Pulev? Who who want to watch Thompson?

It's not about "who wants to see him" it's more on merit.

Its not merit that pays the fighters.

People pay tickets to see a fight. Not someone pick up cash.

An Adamek or Arreola would offer a name and a scrap. So will Chisora.

I dont think Thompson was in good shape for Price, I think he just hoped to do well enough and because Price is so shite, he struck gold! He didnt make much of an effort against Pulev and it would be the same against Fury.

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i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

Well I'd appreciate it if you named all the ones you remember. It would be a big help for me. Thanks.

but as you well know if you start something then you should really do a proper job

so as you brought up the need for examples then as soon as you give me the examples of all of these times promoters have just said this shit and it hasnt happened then ill start giving you examples of when it has

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