Hughie. Ready for Price?

[erics44]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

[Fenster]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

[ross]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

You could also say, how often do you get two similarly skilled fighters in the same weights in the UK?

The biggest recent one I can think of instantly that should have happened is Hatton V Witter.

[Dark Lord Al]

Do you think Hughie is going to beat Mike Tyson as youngest HW champ Ross , as Peter Fury said ?

[erics44]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

[Fenster]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

Well I'd appreciate it if you named all the ones you remember. It would be a big help for me. Thanks.

[erics44]

i dont understand

maloney (prices promoter) didnt want the fight yet it was fury who relinquished the belts so price could fight somebody else for them?

or are we talking about something else?

Yes @erics44 that's what we're talking about. Apparently that's what happened. Price was so scared of Fury, that Tyson vacated to allow Price to win both belts at first try and avoid a humilating defeat at the hands of his fearsome rival. He's actually avoiding Wlad for the same reason.

If Fury is one thing, it is compassionate.

in all honesty, id like to hear the explanation for the above but in my opinion, at the time, i felt fury was right not to fight price because that fight could have been built into a monster a little later down the line

obviously it didnt work out that way, and now it looks like if fury could have lasted a few rounds against price he could have pulled off a win which would have been massive for him, so maybe he should have taken it

How many fights can you name where that actually worked out? It's the most laughable comment in British boxing - "wait until they have "world" titles" or "wait until they get a bit bigger"

maybe maybe not

get me some statistics

Err... the onus is on you mate. Name the fights between British prospects that were successfully "built into monsters down the line"

If it was so common you'd be able to name dozens off the top of your head. It's just shit that promoters say when they're trying to protect their investment.

apart from fury price I can only remember ones that have, its you that saying it doesn't happen so its up to you to prove it

Well I'd appreciate it if you named all the ones you remember. It would be a big help for me. Thanks.

but as you well know if you start something then you should really do a proper job

so as you brought up the need for examples then as soon as you give me the examples of all of these times promoters have just said this shit and it hasnt happened then ill start giving you examples of when it has

[Fenster]

but as you well know if you start something then you should really do a proper job

so as you brought up the need for examples then as soon as you give me the examples of all of these times promoters have just said this shit and it hasnt happened then ill start giving you examples of when it has

OK, off the top my bonce - Price-Fury, Quigg-Frampton, Hatton-Witter, Macklin/Barker/Murray/Lee. Do you remember the lightmiddles in the 90s? Roberts/Williams/Alexander/Farnell etc. All defending micky mouse titles instead of facing eachother, all arguing about who was the best, all got beat, lots of great fights lost.

Same old excuses - "wait until they get a bit bigger" "wait until they become "world" champion"... you wait and wait and wait and then get nothing.

[erics44]

but as you well know if you start something then you should really do a proper job

so as you brought up the need for examples then as soon as you give me the examples of all of these times promoters have just said this shit and it hasnt happened then ill start giving you examples of when it has

OK, off the top my bonce - Price-Fury, Quigg-Frampton, Hatton-Witter, Macklin/Barker/Murray/Lee. Do you remember the lightmiddles in the 90s? Roberts/Williams/Alexander/Farnell etc. All defending micky mouse titles instead of facing eachother, all arguing about who was the best, all got beat, lots of great fights lost.

Same old excuses - "wait until they get a bit bigger" "wait until they become "world" champion"... you wait and wait and wait and then get nothing.

i dont agree with all that

quigg frampton hasnt happened because of more of a promoters thing, neither really wanted it, each was too much of a risk than the other, perhaps wait till it gets bigger has been mentioned but never the real reason

hatton witter didnt happen because witter was a step back for hatton, i dont remember anyone mentioning wait till it gets bigger

the middleweights of recently all had their own paths, i dont remember 2 of them being at the same stage at the same time to warrent a fight, was the wait till it gets bigger thing ever mentioned, perhaps they would have fought each other had one of them won a world title, but even when one of them did there was a bigger fight, perhaps now is the best time, and perhaps if someone whould have made some sort or tourny a year or so back that would have been best for all their careers

my memory of the light middles is scetchy