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Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.
Tbh I disagree that he was wasted talent, I believe he just wasn't talented enough.
He stepped up to world title fights like 3 or 4 times and got knocked out every time.
Carr was very skilled fighter he dropped prime Tito and could have got the decision against Ike. His weakness was power and he was found wanting against Oscar but I think Carr was done by then. I just feel Carr could have achieved more for his talent.
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Danny Romero. He may have sabotaged himself with tunnel vision on Tapia.
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Danny Romero. He may have sabotaged himself with tunnel vision on Tapia.
...and alcoholism. Man he was talented
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James Scott
He looked like one 'Bad Ass' who would never lose at 175 lbs.
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This guy has to be on the list.
Marshall Martinez - Boxer
His mom used to drive him to East LA every day to train at DLH's gym. He was disqualified in the Olympic Trials for slapping with his punches but still got a big signing bonus to turn pro. Nothing but attitude problems and he really loved being a Fontana hood hero.
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Willie de Witt
Canadian Amateur Champion
Had the 'goods' in the Amateur's and was thought to be a 'Star' in the Pro Ranks.
He did the old 'Canadian Flap-Jack'.
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Master
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Vendettos
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Master
Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.
Tbh I disagree that he was wasted talent, I believe he just wasn't talented enough.
He stepped up to world title fights like 3 or 4 times and got knocked out every time.
Carr was very skilled fighter he dropped prime Tito and could have got the decision against Ike. His weakness was power and he was found wanting against Oscar but I think Carr was done by then. I just feel Carr could have achieved more for his talent.
I saw Oba Carr as a gatekeeper: good enough to make it to the top, but not good enough to beat those at the top.
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I thought Joan Guzman was going to be the second coming.
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Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.
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Mac Foster
Flopped outside of Fresno, California.
He was good, and had the potential to be at least a WBA Champion.
Was supposed to challenge WBA Champion - Jimmy Ellis in late-1969,
but the bout fell through.
A better boxer than given credit for, but over-rated in his punching power.
Too many easy early bouts against {Grade B} 'trial-horse' opponents.
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'Big' John Tate .....cocaine got the best of him. He got injured before he got the chance to fight Larry Holmes and it was all downhill after that.
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Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.
Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.
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Cassius Clay
He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
a potentially great career.
Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.
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Cassius Clay
He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
a potentially great career.
Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.
That is the most stupid post ever. Congratulations.
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Master
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El Kabong
Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.
Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.
Well he really should have been able to beat Tyson but I believe the hype got to him and he just fell in love with his power. Then his weight would yo-yo and he just never could get over the hump from being Contender to Champion.