Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscurity

[Master]

Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.

Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.

[Bill Paxtom]

Cassius Clay

He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
a potentially great career.

Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.

[Master]

Cassius Clay

He never really fought anybody real good {1960 thru 1967}, and he squandered
a potentially great career.

Most his bouts were either choreographed, or 'freak-shows'.

That is the most stupid post ever. Congratulations.

[El Kabong]

Donovan 'Razor' Ruddock really should have done better....big guy, big power, good hands, but just didn't train well enough and didn't have a good chin.

Tyson hit it plenty of times and broke his jaw and busted his ribs. After that war the resistance was never the same.

Well he really should have been able to beat Tyson but I believe the hype got to him and he just fell in love with his power. Then his weight would yo-yo and he just never could get over the hump from being Contender to Champion.

[Master]

Just watched boxing classics and John the beast Mugabi who had extreme power and talent but after he lost to the great Hagler, semi retired and Duff forced him back.

Mugabi takes a brutal accidental thumb in his left eye and can't continueagainst Duane Thomas. In a strange twist, before fight Mugabi argued against using thumb tabbed gloves and sadly got his wish.

He then gets starched by Norris and McClellan.

[Primo Carnera]

Errol Christie. Bags of talent , went on a long unbeaten run , then got KO'd in 45 seconds. Regrouped, won a few more and got KO'd by Mark Kaylor.

[SlimTrae]

Just watched boxing classics and John the beast Mugabi who had extreme power and talent but after he lost to the great Hagler, semi retired and Duff forced him back.

Mugabi takes a brutal accidental thumb in his left eye and can't continueagainst Duane Thomas. In a strange twist, before fight Mugabi argued against using thumb tabbed gloves and sadly got his wish.

He then gets starched by Norris and McClellan.

I wonder if Haglar just took the fight outta him. His punch resistance wasn't worth squat after that one fight.

[ykdadamaja]

Dominick Guinn....

Guinn began boxing at age nine and lost in the quarterfinals in the Michigan Junior Olympic Tournament at 139 pounds. Fighting in the 147-pound class at 15 years of age, Guinn lost in the finals. Guinn won the 19-and-under Junior World title in 1993.

Guinn had an amateur career(record 290-26), twice winning the National Golden Gloves Super Heavyweight Championship in 1997 and 1999 but losing in the Olympic qualification to Calvin Brock. In 1998, Guinn won the U.S. National Championships and won a Bronze Medal at the Goodwill Games in New York City.

He began his career winning his first 24 fights, including a seventh round knockout win over Michael Grant and a victory over Duncan Dokiwari.

In 2004 he lost his first fight, a lackluster, but controversial decision to Monte Barrett. He knocked out veteran Phil Jackson but then lost his second fight to Sergei Liakhovich, who went on to win WBO heavyweight title.

[walrus]

I always think of Kirkland. I know he had some accomplishments but if he had put his heart more into boxing and cease being a criminal I thought he could have done much more.

[El Kabong]

Dominick Guinn....

Ah yes the aptly named 'Southern Disaster'...for a while in his professional career he looked very good. Joe Mesi, Sam Peter, and Guinn were on one of HBO's deeper more interesting cards and they all did very well. Guinn showed all the signs of being a "somebody" in the division in fact as he was coming up he seemed to me to fight a lot like Evander Holyfield...above average power, decent hand speed, good workrate, hell of a chin (STILL hasn't been knocked down or stopped).....but I knew when he fought Michael Grant and he allowed Grant to last 7 rounds with him that he just didn't have the killer instinct that a top heavyweight needs to survive the division. He took it easy on Grant and although he kept winning I knew it was only a matter of time before someone took advantage of that softness.


Calvin Brock is another that comes to mind, he was all around pretty average of a fighter, but he had a style which was difficult to crack. He gave Wladimir Klitschko a little trouble, but ended up getting KO'd and it was downhill from there in boxing. He fought Eddie Chambers, took damage to his retina, had a botched surgery and was forced to retire. He wasn't a bad boxer at all...his KO of Zuri Lawrence was outstanding!

[Spicoli]

Ricky Womack. Apparently had the pedigree, the backing and faith of Manny Steward and skill but inexplicably just pissed it all away with crime and assault. He returned 16 years later from prison and ran off 4 wins but was slowly spiraling downward with depression and lack of adjustment. Two months after his last win, one where he felt 'the crowd turned on him' and he was being laughed at, he took his own life.

[holmcall]

Dominick Guinn....

Ah yes the aptly named 'Southern Disaster'...for a while in his professional career he looked very good. Joe Mesi, Sam Peter, and Guinn were on one of HBO's deeper more interesting cards and they all did very well. Guinn showed all the signs of being a "somebody" in the division in fact as he was coming up he seemed to me to fight a lot like Evander Holyfield...above average power, decent hand speed, good workrate, hell of a chin (STILL hasn't been knocked down or stopped).....but I knew when he fought Michael Grant and he allowed Grant to last 7 rounds with him that he just didn't have the killer instinct that a top heavyweight needs to survive the division. He took it easy on Grant and although he kept winning I knew it was only a matter of time before someone took advantage of that softness.


Calvin Brock is another that comes to mind, he was all around pretty average of a fighter, but he had a style which was difficult to crack. He gave Wladimir Klitschko a little trouble, but ended up getting KO'd and it was downhill from there in boxing. He fought Eddie Chambers, took damage to his retina, had a botched surgery and was forced to retire. He wasn't a bad boxer at all...his KO of Zuri Lawrence was outstanding!

Actually, he decapitated Zuri

[MrUnbiasedFan]

Valero

[holmcall]

Valero

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