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Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.
Where to start. firstly he's not a top 10 ATG. you yourself said that his brother was the man in the division and he has only been number one for 2 years. obviously , once Fury beat him, you changed your mind and Wlad became this ATG because it suits your argument.
btw, I would love to see your All Time top 10 and who you put Wlad above!
as for "a flash in the pan" , if he lost his next fight , that is EXACTLY what he would be. The future will tell us everything , but as it stands Fury has had one very good win in a World Title fight and become champion. every single fight before amounts to very little, the standard of opposition is very, very poor. This isn't just aimed at Fury, I think that virtually all today's HW's including and especially Wilder are in the same boat.
It's not to say that Fury will not eclipse Bruno in the future, but at the moment , he has a one fight career at the top level.
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
What do you guys consider the better one off win ?
Douglas beating an unbeaten Tyson or fury beating a 39 year old champion ?
Let's not forget Douglas put on loads of weight and lost his title in his first defence to Holyfield.
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
Yeah, I know the question is loaded. But...
Douglas was 40/1, Fury was 4/1. But the biggest factor for me is, Tyson (the real one)-Douglas was a terrific fight, bombs were exchanged throughout, Buster was knocked out, then not knocked out, and it ended in a "shock the world" breathtaking KO of the invincible Tyson.
Wlad-Fury was boring as fuck. That's it.
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
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Fenster
Yeah, I know the question is loaded. But...
Douglas was 40/1, Fury was 4/1. But the biggest factor for me is, Tyson (the real one)-Douglas was a terrific fight, bombs were exchanged throughout, Buster was knocked out, then not knocked out, and it ended in a "shock the world" breathtaking KO of the invincible Tyson.
Wlad-Fury was boring as fuck. That's it.
Yes that's an interesting view , and yes Douglas v Tyson was a terrific fight.
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Dark Lord Al
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Fenster
Yeah, I know the question is loaded. But...
Douglas was 40/1, Fury was 4/1. But the biggest factor for me is, Tyson (the real one)-Douglas was a terrific fight, bombs were exchanged throughout, Buster was knocked out, then not knocked out, and it ended in a "shock the world" breathtaking KO of the invincible Tyson.
Wlad-Fury was boring as fuck. That's it.
Yes that's an interesting view , and yes Douglas v Tyson was a terrific fight.
wlad v fury was wlads most exciting fight by miles
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Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.
Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!
Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.
Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
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ross
Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.
Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!
Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.
Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.
very well scripted. I'd like to see something to back all that up though.:rolleyes:
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
ross
Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.
Where to start. firstly he's not a top 10 ATG. you yourself said that his brother was the man in the division and he has only been number one for 2 years. obviously , once Fury beat him, you changed your mind and Wlad became this ATG because it suits your argument.
btw, I would love to see your All Time top 10 and who you put Wlad above!
as for "a flash in the pan" , if he lost his next fight , that is EXACTLY what he would be. The future will tell us everything , but as it stands Fury has had one very good win in a World Title fight and become champion. every single fight before amounts to very little, the standard of opposition is very, very poor. This isn't just aimed at Fury, I think that virtually all today's HW's including and especially Wilder are in the same boat.
It's not to say that Fury will not eclipse Bruno in the future, but at the moment , he has a one fight career at the top level.
Wlad at number 7
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Primo Carnera
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Originally Posted by
ross
Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.
Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!
Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.
Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.
very well scripted. I'd like to see something to back all that up though.:rolleyes:
Tyson getting dropped by Greg Page in media sparring in Japan in lead up to the Douglas fight. http://youtu.be/vS91f_zMwcM
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
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Primo Carnera
Numbers 1 to 6 and 8 to 20 please.
Whos?
What criteria?
What the fuck are you on about;D
Re: Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!
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Primo Carnera
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ross
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Primo Carnera
Numbers 1 to 6 and 8 to 20 please.
Whos?
What criteria?
What the fuck are you on about;D
You put "Wlad at number 7" what the fuck are you on about? 😂
All I asked was who's 1-6 and 8-20?
I'm just trying to establish if he's number 7, who is below him ?
If I have to try to teach you English every time I post, it's going to be a very arduous process.
Well if you want to know that actually read the link from the Telegraph I posted you bellend!;D
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Ha! I appologise it looks as though I didnt even post the link!
