Joshua and Haye both agree that they will fight each other!

[ross]

Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.

Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!

Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.

Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.

[Primo Carnera]

Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.

Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!

Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.

Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.

very well scripted. I'd like to see something to back all that up though.

[ross]

Primo when you beat a top ten all time fighter who was seen as leagues above everyone else in the division comfortably in their own back yard on their own promotion you arent just a flash in the pan.

Where to start. firstly he's not a top 10 ATG. you yourself said that his brother was the man in the division and he has only been number one for 2 years. obviously , once Fury beat him, you changed your mind and Wlad became this ATG because it suits your argument.
btw, I would love to see your All Time top 10 and who you put Wlad above!
as for "a flash in the pan" , if he lost his next fight , that is EXACTLY what he would be. The future will tell us everything , but as it stands Fury has had one very good win in a World Title fight and become champion. every single fight before amounts to very little, the standard of opposition is very, very poor. This isn't just aimed at Fury, I think that virtually all today's HW's including and especially Wilder are in the same boat.
It's not to say that Fury will not eclipse Bruno in the future, but at the moment , he has a one fight career at the top level.

Wlad at number 7

Also, Wlad was seen as on top of his game and very proffesional and the media who visited him in camp were all in awe of how professional and in shape he was. He was also defending in his fortress of Germany under his own promotion.

Mike Tyson on the other hand was going through lots of very public problems and was getting dropped and beaten up by sparring partners in Japan and getting pissed and visiting brothels then having such a shit corner they had to use a condom full of tap water to try and take swelling down!

Basically Mike Tyson was served up on a plate to anyone who was willing to fight back that night.

Mike Tyson was the bigger shock because of how he let himself down. Wladimir Klitschko trying as hard as he can to have everything in his favour got thoroughly outboxed by the better boxer.

very well scripted. I'd like to see something to back all that up though.

Tyson getting dropped by Greg Page in media sparring in Japan in lead up to the Douglas fight. http://youtu.be/vS91f_zMwcM