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In answer to the original question, I voted for Canelo v Khan being worse, only because there was a 20lb weight difference on the night, and with the IBF 10lb ruling, that's probably not going to be the case this time.
But at the same time, I have to be consistent and say I don't like the idea of GGG fighting someone 2 weights below.
If the MW's haven't got the balls to step up to the plate, then now is probably the right time to consider his work done at the weight and challenge himself by moving up.
Be real..... 10 years as a professional with no key win or Marque opponent. 10 years without taking a risk beating all opponents in a weak ass division . This has you believing he has a leg to negotiate with vs. Canelo? This looks like a major cherry picking career!
Work done absolutely, time to fight top notch opponents one level up or one level down. Lara or Canelo at 155 now that you forfeited what was your only leverage point PG-GG rated champion
Ha. You ask me to be real? Do you honestly think GGG has cherry picked opponents?
You do know there is a difference between cherry picking and being avoided?
And then you say that perhaps he should go down in weight ? No doubt you would then accuse him of being a bully, he can't win with you.
And you ask me to be real?😂
I've already acknowledged that the time has come for him to move up because nobody in the division will fight him.
Agreed. Not only that... but the argument regarding "the right to negotiate with Canelo" is nothing but a B.S. excuse to justify Canelo's shameful avoiding of GGG. Bottom line... both are equally sized fighters perfectly suited to face off at 160. I'm sure GGG would accept any reasonable offer that was put on the table by Canelo's team. Unfortunately, hell will freeze over before that happens.
I agree with you but it's a business now more than ever and GGG is running a lemonade stand. Tell me why GGG will fight a welterweight but not a really skilled 154 fighter like Lara. While says everyone is ducking GGG but ggg fans. Where is there one shred of evidence ? All speculation and I still beg the question how and why GGG has managed to avoid a top notch fight for ten years with no Marque opponent.? I think catch weight is crap but for GGG to call out Canelo and then fight a welterweight at 160 is worse. It reinforces the fact he will not take risks his 10 year record of opponents is more factual than ggg , his fans and promoter saying everyone is avoiding him.
I ask that he destroy Canelos credentials by beating like opponents of Canlelo get your brain straight . Shred Canelo ability to fight at catchweight. Now fighting Brook with such a great advantage Canelo will never fight him at 160 . Simply because ggg is not man enough or popular enough to dictate the terms. GGG will now be forced to fight larger fighters for less pay. Ggg needs to realize he is not the man and needs to beat the man. (Any top notch champion). Like ggg wants to build a career on one win vs Canelo
You say "It's a business", then in the next breath you say he's not man enough to Dictate terms.
You say he shouldn't fight lighter guys like Brook (I agree), But you want him to fight Lara from the weight below. no doubt then , he would be accused of cherry picking lighter guys and Canelo's leftovers.
You say GGG needs to realize he's not the man. I think he does, when has he ever said he is "The Man"? It's haters like you that are putting that up there. GGG wants to prove he's the Man by cleaning up the division.
we all know, he's not going to get that opportunity because all the other MW's are swerving him (although you seem to even dispute this), so he might as well go up to SMW to fight Degale,Ramirez, etc.
However, don't be surprised if they dodge him as well. People think it's easy to make these fights , but it's not. look at the evidence . how many fights that the public want between the best either take years to make or don't Happen?
the Only one that gets fights made is/was Mayweather, and that's because he's the Golden goose. But even the Pac fight took forever.
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whats the difference between same and neither?
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whats the difference between same and neither?
They are both the same - as bad as one another.
Neither fight was bad at all.
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whats the difference between same and neither?
They are both the same - as bad as one another.
Neither fight was bad at all.
yeah but if you read it with the question -
which is worse? neither is worse (they are both as bad as each other)
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which is worse? they are the same (both as bad as each other)
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whats the difference between same and neither?
They are both the same - as bad as one another.
Neither fight was bad at all.
yeah but if you read it with the question -
which is worse? neither is worse (they are both as bad as each other)
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which is worse? they are the same (both as bad as each other)
stop being so pedantic.
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erics44
whats the difference between same and neither?
They are both the same - as bad as one another.
Neither fight was bad at all.
yeah but if you read it with the question -
which is worse? neither is worse (they are both as bad as each other)
or
which is worse? they are the same (both as bad as each other)
stop being so pedantic.
now , now @Master, @erics44 was merely pointing out an anomaly. WIth his extensive grasp of the English Language , it was disturbing him . Grammar maketh the Man! ;D;D;)
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Primo Carnera
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Master
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erics44
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Master
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erics44
whats the difference between same and neither?
They are both the same - as bad as one another.
Neither fight was bad at all.
yeah but if you read it with the question -
which is worse? neither is worse (they are both as bad as each other)
or
which is worse? they are the same (both as bad as each other)
stop being so pedantic.
now , now @
Master , @
erics44 was merely pointing out an anomaly. WIth his extensive grasp of the English Language , it was disturbing him . Grammar maketh the Man! ;D;D;)
all im saying is that if youre gonna make a poll or have a vote then voters need to know what they are voting for
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Let's lay the blame where it rightfully belongs GGG has been a pro for 10 fuqen years 10 FUQEN years and has yet to fight a marque name or have a signature win. GGG had no leverage then and further lessens his ability to dictate anything in a match with Canelo in the future. He could have moved down one weight class ad discredited a Canelo opponent instead he calls out a welterweight to fight at 160 . That that is a pussier move than Canelo has ever maneuvered. This is another PPV stinker for GGG
GGG is the Middleweight Champion of the World why should he move down a weight class? Especially if the titles they were to fight over were the Middleweight titles! Why indeed?!?
If Canelo wants the Middleweight belts he's going to have to fight at.....anyone???? anyone????
MIDDLEWEIGHT!
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Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.
Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?
Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
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What has GGG done to warrant a Canelo fight at 160 when GGG wants.
Signed a deal with the WBC to fight him. Canelo signed the same deal but bottled out of it. Who the hell is there at 160 that is willing to fight Golovkin that Golovkin hasn't fought?
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What has GGG done to warrant a Canelo fight at 160 when GGG wants.
Signed a deal with the WBC to fight him. Canelo signed the same deal but bottled out of it. Who the hell is there at 160 that is willing to fight Golovkin that Golovkin hasn't fought?
His work is done beating all the 160 marginal fighters. Time for him to step up and stop blaming Canelo for His lack of risk taking and move a weight class up
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Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.
Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?
Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
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Let's lay the blame where it rightfully belongs GGG has been a pro for 10 fuqen years 10 FUQEN years and has yet to fight a marque name or have a signature win. GGG had no leverage then and further lessens his ability to dictate anything in a match with Canelo in the future. He could have moved down one weight class ad discredited a Canelo opponent instead he calls out a welterweight to fight at 160 . That that is a pussier move than Canelo has ever maneuvered. This is another PPV stinker for GGG
GGG is the Middleweight Champion of the World why should he move down a weight class? Especially if the titles they were to fight over were the Middleweight titles! Why indeed?!?
If Canelo wants the Middleweight belts he's going to have to fight at.....anyone???? anyone????
MIDDLEWEIGHT!
so ggg challenging a welterweight is better? Separate Canelo penis from GGG butt and treat their careers seperately as they have no common opponents
