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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.

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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about

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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.

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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.
    Avoided .... it's obvious you know little boxing and are just a GGG groupie. Comparing GGG to Hagler ..... stop the drugs this is not a comical site. Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabe, Roldan, Duran, Antuofermo and Sugar Ray how is this avoidance?

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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.
    Avoided .... it's obvious you know little boxing and are just a GGG groupie. Comparing GGG to Hagler ..... stop the drugs this is not a comical site. Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabe, Roldan, Duran, Antuofermo and Sugar Ray how is this avoidance?

    I loved that era and would never compare GGG to Hagler. However, some things that should be said...

    Hearns, Duran, and Sugar Ray ALL had moved up from lower weights. Hearns may have been a natural MW due to his size, but Duran and SRR were not. Also, Hagler had the luxury of having been around at a time when there was a bonanza of great opposition with which to make his legacy. GGG hasn't had that luxury... yet.

    And why the insistence on having GGG move up in weight when he probably feels 160 is his best weight and maybe he wouldn't fare so well above that?

    All of this goes back to Canelo. You defend Canelo tooth and nail because well........... well, because you're a fan. But it doesn't erase the fact that Canelo's body is that of a bonafide middleweight. Everybody on Planet Earth knows that. But just like JCC Jr. did, he chooses to squeeze himself into a weight class where he knows he'll step into the ring at a huge weight advantage over his opponent. There is no reason whatsoever why he can't accept a fight with GGG at 160. None whatsoever. Bringing up issues such as "deserving a fight with Canelo", or letting the fight "marinate", are just excuses to have Canelo avoid what the fans should get.

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    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.
    Avoided .... it's obvious you know little boxing and are just a GGG groupie. Comparing GGG to Hagler ..... stop the drugs this is not a comical site. Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabe, Roldan, Duran, Antuofermo and Sugar Ray how is this avoidance?

    I loved that era and would never compare GGG to Hagler. However, some things that should be said...

    Hearns, Duran, and Sugar Ray ALL had moved up from lower weights. Hearns may have been a natural MW due to his size, but Duran and SRR were not. Also, Hagler had the luxury of having been around at a time when there was a bonanza of great opposition with which to make his legacy. GGG hasn't had that luxury... yet.

    And why the insistence on having GGG move up in weight when he probably feels 160 is his best weight and maybe he wouldn't fare so well above that?

    All of this goes back to Canelo. You defend Canelo tooth and nail because well........... well, because you're a fan. But it doesn't erase the fact that Canelo's body is that of a bonafide middleweight. Everybody on Planet Earth knows that. But just like JCC Jr. did, he chooses to squeeze himself into a weight class where he knows he'll step into the ring at a huge weight advantage over his opponent. There is no reason whatsoever why he can't accept a fight with GGG at 160. None whatsoever. Bringing up issues such as "deserving a fight with Canelo", or letting the fight "marinate", are just excuses to have Canelo avoid what the fans should get.
    The only insistence I have is that ggg fight a quality opponent even a 154 fighter. The problem is ggg is promoted by the no name guppy promotion company that only has the aged Klitschko brothers. They have no traction in England or the Americas. They have invested little into the the business landscape of boxing. They have coddled ggg for ten yearsc and they are the ones making all the avoidance claims. They simply are holding their sole asset from fighting any threat. Canelo is the current PPV champion and should be afforded the cherry picking Pac and Mayweather were allowed. It's a new world and a Mexican is in the PPV cat bird seat. "MEXICAN FIGHTERS CAREERS MATTER",

    For years they have been low balled knuckleheads while black, white and one Filipino dictated and did all the things everyone hates Canelo for. A fan of Mexican fighters not so much a Canelo fan. Canelo has already said he will fight ggg in 2017. So is ggg going to fight as if on eGGG crates fighting safe opponents until then? Going on 11 years without taking a risk, what a shame.
    Last edited by Addicted to_boxing; 07-21-2016 at 03:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.
    Avoided .... it's obvious you know little boxing and are just a GGG groupie. Comparing GGG to Hagler ..... stop the drugs this is not a comical site. Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabe, Roldan, Duran, Antuofermo and Sugar Ray how is this avoidance?

    I loved that era and would never compare GGG to Hagler. However, some things that should be said...

    Hearns, Duran, and Sugar Ray ALL had moved up from lower weights. Hearns may have been a natural MW due to his size, but Duran and SRR were not. Also, Hagler had the luxury of having been around at a time when there was a bonanza of great opposition with which to make his legacy. GGG hasn't had that luxury... yet.

    And why the insistence on having GGG move up in weight when he probably feels 160 is his best weight and maybe he wouldn't fare so well above that?

    All of this goes back to Canelo. You defend Canelo tooth and nail because well........... well, because you're a fan. But it doesn't erase the fact that Canelo's body is that of a bonafide middleweight. Everybody on Planet Earth knows that. But just like JCC Jr. did, he chooses to squeeze himself into a weight class where he knows he'll step into the ring at a huge weight advantage over his opponent. There is no reason whatsoever why he can't accept a fight with GGG at 160. None whatsoever. Bringing up issues such as "deserving a fight with Canelo", or letting the fight "marinate", are just excuses to have Canelo avoid what the fans should get.

    Would not expect anything less from a Cotto fan. Still bitter?

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    Default Re: Which fight is worse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxing View Post
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    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    Lemieux and Jacobs is your argument ? I am on then floor laughing. Sad case of wrong place at the wrong time. The division is a joke and being the princess at a troll pageant is no thing to boast about
    Thirty years ago you would have been saying the same thing about Hagler. He's the most avoided fighter of his generation. No ifs, no buts, no two ways about it.
    Avoided .... it's obvious you know little boxing and are just a GGG groupie. Comparing GGG to Hagler ..... stop the drugs this is not a comical site. Hagler fought Hearns, Mugabe, Roldan, Duran, Antuofermo and Sugar Ray how is this avoidance?

    I loved that era and would never compare GGG to Hagler. However, some things that should be said...

    Hearns, Duran, and Sugar Ray ALL had moved up from lower weights. Hearns may have been a natural MW due to his size, but Duran and SRR were not. Also, Hagler had the luxury of having been around at a time when there was a bonanza of great opposition with which to make his legacy. GGG hasn't had that luxury... yet.

    And why the insistence on having GGG move up in weight when he probably feels 160 is his best weight and maybe he wouldn't fare so well above that?

    All of this goes back to Canelo. You defend Canelo tooth and nail because well........... well, because you're a fan. But it doesn't erase the fact that Canelo's body is that of a bonafide middleweight. Everybody on Planet Earth knows that. But just like JCC Jr. did, he chooses to squeeze himself into a weight class where he knows he'll step into the ring at a huge weight advantage over his opponent. There is no reason whatsoever why he can't accept a fight with GGG at 160. None whatsoever. Bringing up issues such as "deserving a fight with Canelo", or letting the fight "marinate", are just excuses to have Canelo avoid what the fans should get.

    Would not expect anything less from a Cotto fan. Still bitter?



    No. Just disappointed (but not surprised) at your weak response.
    So basically when you have no answers you sidestep the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Canelo has made a career of beating up smaller guys not in his league. Matthew hatton, Archie Solis and so on. Golovkin has spent the last few years trying to get every middleweight on the planet into the ring. Big difference.

    Team Golovkin only took this fight because they're so far down the line with negotiations and they've mentally already invested the money they're going to make from the Sky PPV.
    The last 10 years . Where's the beef ? All salad opponents, if GGG wanted a challenge he would make his management team create one. He is just a big fish with the wrong promotional company which has no one else. Stop the excuses 10 years and that resume of opposition..... Hope your Ol lady does not lie to you the same way
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Lego?

    Who is the best in the 160 division? People thought Lemieux but he beat him easily. And Lemieux is the only top 160 guy who wanted to fight him. Jacobs and all the other beltholders want nothing to do with him.
    How do you create a world class pound for pound middleweight? Have him knockout a series of average fighters ...... More like hype recipe. So after 10 years and no quality risk fight how many more years is ok with you?

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