Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Master good for him, who do you think will make more money? Some big names at 147 that could meet Canelo at 154 (and would) who has GGG got to fight that people would care about?
Does not matter about the money, you can fight MMA fighters and make all the money in the world you will still be laughed at and damage your legacy.
Canelo will be accused of hiding, ducking and avoiding GGG.
You're the only person in the world who thinks a win damages your legacy and of course money matters, this is prize fighting! It's sweet that you think it's all about honour and pride :biglaugh: sad but sweet.
Money can not buy legacy.
Beating guys like Monroe, Wade, Macklin and Rubio really doesn't do much to pad the old legacy and I Doubt it pads the bank account much either so I guess those fights were just all together pointless for GGG.
They were the most available fighters. Many fighters avoided GGG from Strum to Sergio Martinez so at least he took on all challengers without dropping the belts to avoid fighting them.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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GAME it's not difficult to dominate a division when the division is dead! Who has GGG beaten in almost 40 fights? He has a razor thin decision over Jacobs as the best victory of his career. Ward didn't have to move to 175 and fight Kovalev, going by your logic it would have been more difficult for him to stay at 168... are you joking or just being bias?
Ward couldnt stay at 168. It takes a lot of discipline to make that weight year after year. It was easier for him to move up in weight where he felt stronger instead of weakening himself to make 168. There were challenges for him at 168 like Ramirez or fighting abroad something he's never had the courage to do.
fighting at home and relying on a dodgy decision to fight a fading Kovalev is not as disciplined as dominating a weight class for years
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@Master those fights still did nothing to enhance his legacy. Beating Wade or Monroe doesn't mean much of anything and he had loads of defences like that (against bums)
@GAME Who has GGG beaten that compares to Kovalev? You have no idea what weight Ward can make, seriously you sound bias and you're really reaching as Ward has had a far better career than Golovkin
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Re: Can GGG get any better?
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GAME Who has GGG beaten that compares to Kovalev? You have no idea what weight Ward can make, seriously you sound bias and you're really reaching as Ward has had a far better career than Golovkin
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Ward didnt beat beat Kovalev in either fight properly. Dominated the 1st time then low blowed his way to hometown corruption in the return.
Golovkins beat Danny Jacobs and even the Mexicans know he beat Alvarez. If you want triple g to move up two weights let's see Ward do it first vs Joshua. I give him 2 rounds til he is KTFO
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GGG is building up a high number of defences and that will enhance his legacy.
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Maybe the question should be : can Sanchez get better. His fight plan sucked barge pole. No body work. No imagination. No inspiration in the final 2 rounds.
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Master those fights still did nothing to enhance his legacy. Beating Wade or Monroe doesn't mean much of anything and he had loads of defences like that (against bums)
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GAME Who has GGG beaten that compares to Kovalev? You have no idea what weight Ward can make, seriously you sound bias and you're really reaching as Ward has had a far better career than Golovkin
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Ward didnt beat beat Kovalev in either fight properly. Dominated the 1st time then low blowed his way to hometown corruption in the return.
Golovkins beat Danny Jacobs and even the Mexicans know he beat Alvarez. If you want triple g to move up two weights let's see Ward do it first vs Joshua. I give him 2 rounds til he is KTFO
Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin and he only moved up because Froch, Kessler and GGG wanted no part of him. Alvarez started his career at welterweight so he actually did move up two weight divisions to fight Golovkin. You sound like a fucking dumbass asking Ward to fight AJ so just stop embarrassing yourself with that idiotic comparison. The record books say Ward beat Kovalev twice and they also say that Golovkin drew with Canelo so stop with the fucking fantasies and stick to the facts.
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GGG is building up a high number of defences and that will enhance his legacy.
Quantity over quality yet again. So far he's only defended successfully against one top fighter.
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No, decline part of the ride is upon us
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Master those fights still did nothing to enhance his legacy. Beating Wade or Monroe doesn't mean much of anything and he had loads of defences like that (against bums)
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GAME Who has GGG beaten that compares to Kovalev? You have no idea what weight Ward can make, seriously you sound bias and you're really reaching as Ward has had a far better career than Golovkin
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Ward didnt beat beat Kovalev in either fight properly. Dominated the 1st time then low blowed his way to hometown corruption in the return.
Golovkins beat Danny Jacobs and even the Mexicans know he beat Alvarez. If you want triple g to move up two weights let's see Ward do it first vs Joshua. I give him 2 rounds til he is KTFO
Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin and he only moved up because Froch, Kessler and GGG wanted no part of him. Alvarez started his career at welterweight so he actually did move up two weight divisions to fight Golovkin. You sound like a fucking dumbass asking Ward to fight AJ so just stop embarrassing yourself with that idiotic comparison. The record books say Ward beat Kovalev twice and they also say that Golovkin drew with Canelo so stop with the fucking fantasies and stick to the facts.
This coming from a guy who scores rounds to the guy who consistently lands fewer punches in every round..... I think you've demonstrated your level of boxing intellect enough already
218-169 in punches landed. How's that for facts
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Master those fights still did nothing to enhance his legacy. Beating Wade or Monroe doesn't mean much of anything and he had loads of defences like that (against bums)
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GAME Who has GGG beaten that compares to Kovalev? You have no idea what weight Ward can make, seriously you sound bias and you're really reaching as Ward has had a far better career than Golovkin
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Ward didnt beat beat Kovalev in either fight properly. Dominated the 1st time then low blowed his way to hometown corruption in the return.
Golovkins beat Danny Jacobs and even the Mexicans know he beat Alvarez. If you want triple g to move up two weights let's see Ward do it first vs Joshua. I give him 2 rounds til he is KTFO
Ward was at 168 when he called out Golovkin and he only moved up because Froch, Kessler and GGG wanted no part of him. Alvarez started his career at welterweight so he actually did move up two weight divisions to fight Golovkin. You sound like a fucking dumbass asking Ward to fight AJ so just stop embarrassing yourself with that idiotic comparison. The record books say Ward beat Kovalev twice and they also say that Golovkin drew with Canelo so stop with the fucking fantasies and stick to the facts.
This coming from a guy who scores rounds to the guy who consistently lands fewer punches in every round..... I think you've demonstrated your level of boxing intellect enough already
218-169 in punches landed. How's that for facts
Yeah, because quality means more than quantity (this is professional Boxing) Canelo landed more power punches while GGG landed more jabs (there's a fact for you)
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Jabs score points and landing more jabs counts more than landing one big punch.
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Jabs score points and landing more jabs counts more than landing one big punch.
That's your opinion and as per usual it's wrong :rolleyes:
Everyone is crying about the 118-110 scorecard
But nobody has had anything to say about the 114-114 card
Which suggests that most people think a draw was fair.
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Jabs score points and landing more jabs counts more than landing one big punch.
That's your opinion and as per usual it's wrong :rolleyes:
Everyone is crying about the 118-110 scorecard
But nobody has had anything to say about the 114-114 card
Which suggests that most people think a draw was fair.
You do not read.
Everyone with any sense says the fight was close. So to have a draw is a fair opinion to have.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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GaMo
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Master
Jabs score points and landing more jabs counts more than landing one big punch.
That's your opinion and as per usual it's wrong :rolleyes:
Everyone is crying about the 118-110 scorecard
But nobody has had anything to say about the 114-114 card
Which suggests that most people think a draw was fair.
No it doesn't. Most fans and pundits have GGG winning the fight. Note my use of the word 'most' in that last sentence as compared with the possible use of the word 'some'. Most people think a GGG win was fair, but only some would agree that a draw is fair.
Controlling the rounds with your jab is significant too. It isn't as though Canelo was up on the power punches by very much either. GGG outlanded Canelo in most of the rounds and that is what MOST people saw.