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Re: How should we rate Drian Francisco?
Drian Francisco earns the #10 ranking by a vote of 5 - 0
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Re: Should Jose Navarro remain in the pool at 115?
Jose Navarro is removed from the pool by a vote of 7 - 0
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Re: Should Roberto Vasquez remain in the pool at 115?
Roberto Vasquez is removed from the pool by a vote of 6 - 0
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Should Ronald Barrera remain in the pool at 105?
Should Ronald Barrera remain in the pool at 105? He has been in the pool for over 6 months & his only fight in that time was a 6 round stoppage loss to Raul Garcia (currently #2). His last win was in December ’08.
Ronald Barrera
I vote that he should be removed.
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Re: Should Ronald Barrera remain in the pool at 105?
I voted to keep him in the pool strictly because it is such a shallow pool. Once we get more guys in there, I'd be more confident dropping him.
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Should Munetsugu Kayo remain in the pool at 108
Should Munetsugu Kayo remain in the pool at 108 after losing a 10 round Tec. dec. to Ryo Miyazaki in which he was well behind on points?
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How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
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The 21 year old Japanese fighter is undefeated & just won a 10 round tec. decision over Munetsugu Kayo (currently in the pool at 108 ). He was well ahead on the cards.
Ryo Miyazaki
So how should we rate him?
Does he earn the vacant #9 spot?
Does he enter the pool?
Does he not enter our ratings at all?
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
Voted pool because don't know enough about his opposition. But 3 vacancies is taking the piss, especially with a pool that light. I don't personally believe we should ever have more than 1 vacancy per weight class.
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
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JazMerkin
Voted pool because don't know enough about his opposition. But 3 vacancies is taking the piss, especially with a pool that light. I don't personally believe we should ever have more than 1 vacancy per weight class.
Sorry mate, it should be the vacant #9 spot. I'm going to vote him in...
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
what's the boxers record?:confused:
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
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TROUBLESUM81
what's the boxers record?:confused:
Ryo Miyazaki 10-0-2 (5)
Ryo Miyazaki
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
nah, then i will wait to vote later
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
I voted he enters the pool but not the top 10 yet; MOst of his opposition are mainly from the "far east" so to say and though he seems to have faced relatively good oppositions, he needs to be tested more before entering the pool, a "western" opponent would be interesting too so we could see how he do against different style of boxing and how he is when a bit out of his comfort zone. So to me, he didn't fought enough yet from the "top" in the west from his division to earn such a high spot...yet.
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
I think I'll change my vote to he enters the pool, he did beat a pool member & there are 2 vacancies but I agree we should monitor his progress before rating him
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Re: Should Ronald Barrera remain in the pool at 105?
Ronald Barrera is removed from the pool by a vote of 3 - 2
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Re: Should Munetsugu Kayo remain in the pool at 108
Munetsugu Kayo is removed from the pool by a vote of 4 - 0
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Re: How should we rate Ryo Miyazaki at 108
Ryo Miyazaki enters the pool by a vote of 3 - 2
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Should Nonito Donaire remain rated at 112?
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Should Nonito Donaire (currently #2 at 112 & #9 at 115) remain rated at 112?
As he is rated in another division after 6 months his 112 rating should be reviewed. His last fight at this weight was his KO victory over Raul Martinez on the 19th of April ‘09
Nonito Donaire
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Re: Should Nonito Donaire remain rated at 112?
I assume you mean 115 & yeah, he should only be rated there, he's said he cannot make 112 anymore, plus it creates a championship fight between Naito & Kameda.
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Re: Should Nonito Donaire remain rated at 112?
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
I assume you mean 115 & yeah, he should only be rated there, he's said he cannot make 112 anymore, plus it creates a championship fight between Naito & Kameda.
Yeah sorry, the vote should read 115 only (not 130), it will be interesting to see if the committee wants Naito/ Kameda for the championship, I'll be all for it!
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Re: Should Nonito Donaire remain rated at 112?
Naito-Kameda should a championship fight
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Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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I was thinking to leave this division, but there's only 2 scheduled fights for the rest of the year & only one of these involves a pool member (Rodel Mayol vs Edgar Sosa).
I say we elect at least one of these guys in there to fill the vacancy & I would also recommend anyone to vote in candidates to the pool so that we can fill these vacancies up.
So yeah make your vote count blah blah etc etc
* Kayo has been replaced by Ryo Miyazaki who decisioned him last week.
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
I voted Mayol because I feel he's been gutsy and energic enough to deserve one of these spots.
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Re: Should Nonito Donaire remain rated at 112?
Nonito Donaire is removed from the 112 ratings by a vote of 5 - 0
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
I voted for Miyazaki as he just defeated a pool member
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
Leave it the way it is for now. I thought this had been discussed before?
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Leave it the way it is for now. I thought this had been discussed before?
The problem is there are only two scheduled light-flyweight fights for the rest of the year. We don't want to have two vacancies in a weightclass, we should aim to have a full 10. This weightclass is pretty dead outside of the Top 6, so I think voting in the vacancies is the only way to do it. If the guys are crap, they'll be outta there soon enough.
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Leave it the way it is for now. I thought this had been discussed before?
The problem is there are only two scheduled light-flyweight fights for the rest of the year. We don't want to have two vacancies in a weightclass, we should aim to have a full 10. This weightclass is pretty dead outside of the Top 6, so I think voting in the vacancies is the only way to do it. If the guys are crap, they'll be outta there soon enough.
Fair enough points. I can see where your coming from. But I think in this type of situation, Instead of voting I think the manager in charge should just be allowed to pick. The reasons behind that are cuz it's an obscure division. Not to many people follow it. So they most likely will just pick the name they know or recently heard of. In this case (Due to his recent title fights with Calderon) would be Mayol. A fighter I don't think deserves it considering he has 4 losses and only 3 wins in his last 8 fights. I would round off the top 10 with Ryo Miyazaki at 9 and Adrian Hernandez at 10
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Leave it the way it is for now. I thought this had been discussed before?
The problem is there are only two scheduled light-flyweight fights for the rest of the year. We don't want to have two vacancies in a weightclass, we should aim to have a full 10. This weightclass is pretty dead outside of the Top 6, so I think voting in the vacancies is the only way to do it. If the guys are crap, they'll be outta there soon enough.
Fair enough points. I can see where your coming from. But I think in this type of situation, Instead of voting I think the manager in charge should just be allowed to pick. The reasons behind that are cuz it's an obscure division. Not to many people follow it. So they most likely will just pick the name they know or recently heard of. In this case (Due to his recent title fights with Calderon) would be Mayol. A fighter I don't think deserves it considering he has 4 losses and only 3 wins in his last 8 fights. I would round off the top 10 with Ryo Miyazaki at 9 and Adrian Hernandez at 10
I think the vote should decide, I agree that not many follow the lower weights & I agree with your choices but I think its a situation that could become messy. If there's a vote no one can moan.
If you change your vote to Miyazaki that should get him in at 9. Then we can vote on tenth.
I agree with Jaz that we need to try for complete ratings, or top 9 at the very least.
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Leave it the way it is for now. I thought this had been discussed before?
The problem is there are only two scheduled light-flyweight fights for the rest of the year. We don't want to have two vacancies in a weightclass, we should aim to have a full 10. This weightclass is pretty dead outside of the Top 6, so I think voting in the vacancies is the only way to do it. If the guys are crap, they'll be outta there soon enough.
Fair enough points. I can see where your coming from. But I think in this type of situation, Instead of voting I think the manager in charge should just be allowed to pick. The reasons behind that are cuz it's an obscure division. Not to many people follow it. So they most likely will just pick the name they know or recently heard of. In this case (Due to his recent title fights with Calderon) would be Mayol. A fighter I don't think deserves it considering he has 4 losses and only 3 wins in his last 8 fights. I would round off the top 10 with Ryo Miyazaki at 9 and Adrian Hernandez at 10
Cool, I'm happy for you to pick. I'd seen Hernandez fight twice on Italian cards & wasn't overly impressed, whilst Mayol at least fought relatively even with Calderon over 2 fights, even if I had him losing. Haven't seen Miyazaki so can't comment there.
Hell, I'll change my vote to Miyazaki if needs be, both you & Galaxy have more knowledge of these fighters than I do, so I'll trust in your opinions.
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
The problem is there are only two scheduled light-flyweight fights for the rest of the year. We don't want to have two vacancies in a weightclass, we should aim to have a full 10. This weightclass is pretty dead outside of the Top 6, so I think voting in the vacancies is the only way to do it. If the guys are crap, they'll be outta there soon enough.
Fair enough points. I can see where your coming from. But I think in this type of situation, Instead of voting I think the manager in charge should just be allowed to pick. The reasons behind that are cuz it's an obscure division. Not to many people follow it. So they most likely will just pick the name they know or recently heard of. In this case (Due to his recent title fights with Calderon) would be Mayol. A fighter I don't think deserves it considering he has 4 losses and only 3 wins in his last 8 fights. I would round off the top 10 with Ryo Miyazaki at 9 and Adrian Hernandez at 10
Cool, I'm happy for you to pick. I'd seen Hernandez fight twice on Italian cards & wasn't overly impressed, whilst Mayol at least fought relatively even with Calderon over 2 fights, even if I had him losing. Haven't seen Miyazaki so can't comment there.
Hell, I'll change my vote to Miyazaki if needs be, both you & Galaxy have more knowledge of these fighters than I do, so I'll trust in your opinions.
You shouldn't have to change your vote Jaz, I agree with the points you make about Mayol, I just feel that beating a pool member rates higher than Mayol's last fight which was a loss
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Galaxy
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Fair enough points. I can see where your coming from. But I think in this type of situation, Instead of voting I think the manager in charge should just be allowed to pick. The reasons behind that are cuz it's an obscure division. Not to many people follow it. So they most likely will just pick the name they know or recently heard of. In this case (Due to his recent title fights with Calderon) would be Mayol. A fighter I don't think deserves it considering he has 4 losses and only 3 wins in his last 8 fights. I would round off the top 10 with Ryo Miyazaki at 9 and Adrian Hernandez at 10
Cool, I'm happy for you to pick. I'd seen Hernandez fight twice on Italian cards & wasn't overly impressed, whilst Mayol at least fought relatively even with Calderon over 2 fights, even if I had him losing. Haven't seen Miyazaki so can't comment there.
Hell, I'll change my vote to Miyazaki if needs be, both you & Galaxy have more knowledge of these fighters than I do, so I'll trust in your opinions.
You shouldn't have to change your vote Jaz, I agree with the points you make about Mayol, I just feel that beating a pool member rates higher than Mayol's last fight which was a loss
I agree. I stand behind my critic of Mayol. But there is no need to change your vote
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Re: Who fills #9 at Light-Flyweight
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Galaxy
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
Cool, I'm happy for you to pick. I'd seen Hernandez fight twice on Italian cards & wasn't overly impressed, whilst Mayol at least fought relatively even with Calderon over 2 fights, even if I had him losing. Haven't seen Miyazaki so can't comment there.
Hell, I'll change my vote to Miyazaki if needs be, both you & Galaxy have more knowledge of these fighters than I do, so I'll trust in your opinions.
You shouldn't have to change your vote Jaz, I agree with the points you make about Mayol, I just feel that beating a pool member rates higher than Mayol's last fight which was a loss
I agree. I stand behind my critic of Mayol. But there is no need to change your vote
My point is I'm not in an informed enough position. I've only seen 2 of the candidates in action. I know Hernandez KO'd Mayol, but the most recent fights of theirs I've seen I been more impressed my Mayol. But neither really did shit for me. If you've got a link to any footage of Miyazaki, I'd be interested to see it. Man, this is one weak division.
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Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
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Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
Note
Omar Salado has not won a fight since being removed from the ratings, so has been left out.
Jesus Jimenez
Jesus Jimenez
Julio Cesar Miranda
Julio Cesar Miranda
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Re: Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
Miranda's 1st round KO of Ortiz is enough for me
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Re: Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
This vote will be for the #9 spot because Donaire was removed to move up a weight class.
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Should Yasutaka Kuroki and/ or Luis Alberto Rios enter the pool at 105?
With only 1 current pool member (Denver Cuello) I propse that these fighters enter the pool.
Yasutaka Kuroki hasn't lost since 2004
Yasutaka Kuroki
19 year old Luis Alberto Rios crushed Walter Tello (who went the distance with Manuel Vargas) in 4 rounds
Luis Alberto Rios
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Re: Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
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Originally Posted by
killersheep
This vote will be for the #9 spot because Donaire was removed to move up a weight class.
Good spotting mate, I missed that one
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Re: Should Yasutaka Kuroki and/ or Luis Alberto Rios enter the pool at 105?
Kuroki & Rios enter the pool by a vote of 3 - 0
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Re: Who should fill the vacant #10 spot at 112?
Julio Cesar Miranda fills the #9 spot by a vote of 6 - 0
