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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Spicoli
Honk honk...so much for that. Gomez is a sponge for bodywork
Stop listening to the announcers and look closer Gomez won that 2nd round.
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Gomez has good hand speed.
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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greynotsoold
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Howlin Mad Missy
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greynotsoold
If you are going to jab, then freaking jab!!! That tap-tap 'double jab' and pivot to the right led to Cano eating right hands like M&Ms...and he kept doing it. I honestly believe that the people 'training' these young guys should be arrested.
well he was certainly tagging morales along the way..
Certainly. Morales was there to be hit. But you've boxed, so let me ask you this...Can't you see a right hand coming for miles and miles? And, if you do something and it keeps going wrong, shouldn't you stop doing it? Morales fought a smart fight that conserved his energy and he got through it with a stiff jab and a right hand that got stronger as Cano became more willing to get hit with it.
Good fight-glad to see Morales win. I watched him workout a few times years ago. (he was 19-21) He fought smart.
not everyone is complete/special at 19-21 ;)
there's always a reason you got hit
you see some BUT if that's the case & we use your logic fighters would never get caught with right hands..or any punch for that matter.
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2-1 Gomez why the hell is Saul Alvarez trying to do the shoulder roll.
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Gomez fucking tattooed him there. Did he miss a single right hand?
Alvarez would be down 3-0 if not for the flash KD.
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Gomez is making alvarez work. I thought alvarez was going to have it all his own way.
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The odds on this fight were stupid. Gomez is so disrespected.
He's putting on a great effort here just like I knew he would.
If it wasn't for the flash knockdown he would 3-0 now.
Of course in reality he is trailing by 4 at this point as Alvarez only needs to be standing after 12 rounds to win the decision.
Of course any punches on the beltline will see Gomez DQ'd also.
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ICB
2-1 Gomez why the hell is Saul Alvarez trying to do the shoulder roll.
I have no idea. It's obviously not working.
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I have it 28-28, same as Lederman. The weird KD is the only thing keeping Canelo from being down 30-27 at this point.
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3-1 Gomez wow this is incredible.
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Alvarez is throwing punches like he's in a fucking toughman contest. He's not moving his head (or his feet) at all either.
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These pre-fight instructions are so badly staged.
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Originally Posted by
fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
Honk honk...so much for that. Gomez is a sponge for bodywork
Stop listening to the announcers and look closer Gomez won that 2nd round.
I can't understand a fooking word this shreiking banshee is saying (sounds like he's making Gomez sound like Frazier in 4th though) ;D but Gomez cannot break wind, its known
I expect what he did 1st half with Soto-Karass good hand and boxing but he'll stand eventually, he'll absorb and unless Alvarez is a media creation I think he takes Gomez to the body
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38-37 Gomez on my card, same as Lederman.
Canelo is waiting, letting Gomez outwork him by alot. Gomez's right hand is landing way too easily. A guy with some power who is a legit junior middle would have hurt Canelo by now if that many right hands landed.
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ICB
3-1 Gomez wow this is incredible.
Not really mate. It's only the blind hating of Alfonso that makes everyone think he's crap.
I've been saying for week's he'd beat him.
He's a solid fighter. You don't beat Gatti, Castill and Litzou if you can't fight.
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Gomez is winning this handily, the Canelo chap only has a weird KD to his credit.
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ICB
3-1 Gomez wow this is incredible.
Not really mate. It's only the blind hating of Alfonso that makes everyone think he's crap.
I've been saying for week's he'd beat him.
He's a solid fighter. You don't beat Gatti, Castill and Litzou if you can't fight.
I meant the fight mate, i've always liked Gomez and thought he was underrated.
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Bilbo
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ICB
3-1 Gomez wow this is incredible.
Not really mate. It's only the blind hating of Alfonso that makes everyone think he's crap.
I've been saying for week's he'd beat him.
He's a solid fighter. You don't beat Gatti, Castill and Litzou if you can't fight.
I like Gomez a lot, but Gatti and Castillo were walking corpses when he fought them, and Karass (who I assume you mean instead of Litzou) is just a decent, but not great, fighter.
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No defensive effort on either part.
To compare a 20 yr old Alvarez to a 20 yr old Chavez (sr) is asinine. Nor does he compare to an 18 year old barrera, nor does he compare to an 18 yr old Cesar Soto.
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People need to stop using Alvarezs 'age' as a crutch to why he makes mistakes...your on PPV, a champion and billed as the next coming. Leave it at the door
check please... and done
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very quick stoppage even though Gomez was hurt.
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That was an atrocious stoppage. Among the worst I have ever seen.
That is robbery.
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That was not a good stoppage IMHO.
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What are these commentators on about ? that was very premature.
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Bullshit premature stoppage. Utter horsecrap and typical nonsense for a hype job who is expected to win. You aren't allowed to get hurt in a fight? :rolleyes:
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Good thing the ref stopped that, Alvarez was doing some serious damage to Gomez' gloves. Those things are expensive.
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The next ODLH you are fucking joking right ?
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Thinking to my self [I wonder, Behind the closed door; if it looks like Alvarez is going to lose and you get the chance to stop it go ahead and stop it...... ]
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Stopped abit early gomez was hurt but he should of been given abit longer.
What are the comentators on about ???
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That's so disappointing. Apart from the flash knockdown at the start Gomez was winning every round. He was definitely hurt in that exchange, no question, but this was like when Manfredo fought Calzaghe and they stopped the fight as soon as Joe threw three punches together.
Gomez could have weathered that and has proven as much throughout his career.
I hate it when referee's ruin a fight. Bollock's stoppage.
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CFH
Good thing the ref stopped that, Alvarez was doing some serious damage to Gomez' gloves. Those things are expensive.
yup.
I have said before and my opinion hasn't changed. Alvarez will probably not be able to be the top dog in a weight division, much less a P4P fighter.
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CFH
Good thing the ref stopped that, Alvarez was doing some serious damage to Gomez' gloves. Those things are expensive.
Well glove safety must come first.
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I think youre all talking rubbish if im honest. Gomez was out of it there
Shame cos I had it level on points going into the 6th, was shaping up good
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This was a 'showcase' for an over produced diva in the making and that stoppage was in the cards going in. Gomez played his role to a tee and earned his day but really, it was known what he was there for.
I think the stoppage was fine, matter of time. Btw Alvarez is beatable
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
That's so disappointing. Apart from the flash knockdown at the start Gomez was winning every round. He was definitely hurt in that exchange, no question, but this was like when Manfredo fought Calzaghe and they stopped the fight as soon as Joe threw three punches together.
Gomez could have weathered that and has proven as much throughout his career.
I hate it when referee's ruin a fight. Bollock's stoppage.
I thought Alfonso Gomez was putting the pressure on well, and was very much in the fight. The hype Saul Alvarez is getting is ridiculous the next ODLH what a laugh.
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Alvarez did what he needed to do. He can mix it with any 154 fighter, he is only 21 and needs more fights. He would beat kirkland no problems...imagine Angulo - Alvarez
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Re: Victor Ortiz vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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captainanddew
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CFH
Good thing the ref stopped that, Alvarez was doing some serious damage to Gomez' gloves. Those things are expensive.
yup.
I have said before and my opinion hasn't changed. Alvarez will probably not be able to be the top dog in a weight division, much less a P4P fighter.
He is still young and may well improve a lot.
He definitely has certain things going for him. He's heavy handed, he goes to the body well, he has a decent chin and he's definitely got talent.
I don't think he'll reach the very top, but I think he can do well at 154 against the likes of Cotto, Kirkland, Angulo, Chavez Jr etc.
Probably not ready for Cotto yet, but another 18 months and he will likely be getting there.
Look at Khan a few years ago. Everyone thought he was a joke and was dodging Jon Thaxton who would destroy him. Seems a bit silly that many people said that now.
Alvarez in another couple years will be hard to beat imo.
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Morning folks. Up to watch Wales beat Samoa in the Rugby world cup, but going to be checking in here too. Damn its early.