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ruthless rocco
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C.J.Rock
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ruthless rocco
Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!
You are Youre #1 idiot for sure lol
I rest my case.
About time its gotten boring keep owning you all the time lol
Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.
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TitoFan
I see you know how to post silly pics but its a shame you do not possess enough intelligence to discuss boxing isnt it. Are you & Rocco in the same remedial class??
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TitoFan
ROFL If Margarito worked at MacDonalds he'd be Trinidad's & your shift manager . Sweep that floor boy
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On to the important news... I try not to check out another man's wife (or girlfriend), but she was beautiful, and if he really is divorcing her, he is messing up! He's not going to do better or even close to her again...
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I can discuss boxing.
It's blind fanboyism I can't really discuss.
Oops..... I said "blind".
Did that strike a chord with you? Seeing as to how you're Cheato's lifelong friend?
Was that "insensitive" of me?
I see the origin of your fanboyism, though.
You personally know Cheato and his wife.
You two must go way back, huh.
Must've given you quite an ulcer to watch Cheato plummet from glory in the worst way possible, exposed as a cheating sack of shit.
Man.... that's gotta hurt.
If it'll make you feel any better, I was slightly sad when he got his eye socket shattered by Pacquaio.
No.... not really.... I was just making conversation.
But take heart. You're one of maybe a dozen or people who still support Cheato to this day.
Of course, that includes his immediate family.
So keep on cheering for the guy and ranting like a lunatic that he was railroaded by.... how did you put it? A kangaroo court?
You're one funny 23-year old.
So if you and Cheato go way back.... you must've been like a teenager when you met him, huh.
Which means he was your hero and you idolized him.
Damn.....
How did it feel when Cheato was exposed, suspended, and disgraced?
Did you cry for a long time?
Did you become angry at the boxing world?
Did you go to school the next day?
Damn, kid..... what can I say. :-\
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I can discuss boxing.
It's blind fanboyism I can't really discuss.
Oops..... I said "blind".
Did that strike a chord with you? Seeing as to how you're Cheato's lifelong friend?
Was that "insensitive" of me?
I see the origin of your fanboyism, though.
You personally know Cheato and his wife.
You two must go way back, huh.
Must've given you quite an ulcer to watch Cheato plummet from glory in the worst way possible, exposed as a cheating sack of shit.
Man.... that's gotta hurt.
If it'll make you feel any better, I was slightly sad when he got his eye socket shattered by Pacquaio.
No.... not really.... I was just making conversation.
But take heart. You're one of maybe a dozen or people who still support Cheato to this day.
Of course, that includes his immediate family.
So keep on cheering for the guy and ranting like a lunatic that he was railroaded by.... how did you put it? A kangaroo court?
You're one funny 23-year old.
So if you and Cheato go way back.... you must've been like a teenager when you met him, huh.
Which means he was your hero and you idolized him.
Damn.....
How did it feel when Cheato was exposed, suspended, and disgraced?
Did you cry for a long time?
Did you become angry at the boxing world?
Did you go to school the next day?
Damn, kid..... what can I say. :-\
Youre not really worth it but I'm bored so here goes
I first met Tony Margarito in 1999 when he came to Ft Worth Tx to fight the infamous Buck Smith. Tony Ko'd him in the 4th I believe. Ive been a friend & a supporter ever since.
Since then only 2 people legitimately beat him Paul Williams won a close decision over him & Manny Pacquaio beat him. BOTH knew they had been in a fight. Goosen said " He's in our past not our future when tony asked for a rematch with Williams.
Don't you realize that the lying POS that started this loaded gloves bullcrap is the same jerk that exposed your idol Trinidad's doctored wraps. Tito's were illegal too If I was childish like you I guess I could name him Cheato Tito. Didn't matter tho another buddy of mine schooled Tito & put him on his ass Bernard Hopkins
Tony Margarito did NOTHING wrong & the CSAC know it he was suspended on the word of a blatant liar the CSAC fell for it hook line & sinker.
What happened was the prosecuter , the CSAC,, decided Margarito was guilty & sentenced him no need for a court That is a KANGAROO COURT.
Ive been in and around the sport of boxing for over 35 years you weren't even born then LOL. Now go to bed its a schoolday tomorrow Take Teddy you can leave the night light on Bye Bye
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Originally Posted by
C.J.Rock
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I can discuss boxing.
It's blind fanboyism I can't really discuss.
Oops..... I said "blind".
Did that strike a chord with you? Seeing as to how you're Cheato's lifelong friend?
Was that "insensitive" of me?
I see the origin of your fanboyism, though.
You personally know Cheato and his wife.
You two must go way back, huh.
Must've given you quite an ulcer to watch Cheato plummet from glory in the worst way possible, exposed as a cheating sack of shit.
Man.... that's gotta hurt.
If it'll make you feel any better, I was slightly sad when he got his eye socket shattered by Pacquaio.
No.... not really.... I was just making conversation.
But take heart. You're one of maybe a dozen or people who still support Cheato to this day.
Of course, that includes his immediate family.
So keep on cheering for the guy and ranting like a lunatic that he was railroaded by.... how did you put it? A kangaroo court?
You're one funny 23-year old.
So if you and Cheato go way back.... you must've been like a teenager when you met him, huh.
Which means he was your hero and you idolized him.
Damn.....
How did it feel when Cheato was exposed, suspended, and disgraced?
Did you cry for a long time?
Did you become angry at the boxing world?
Did you go to school the next day?
Damn, kid..... what can I say. :-\
Youre not really worth it but I'm bored so here goes
I first met Tony Margarito in 1999 when he came to Ft Worth Tx to fight the infamous Buck Smith. Tony Ko'd him in the 4th I believe. Ive been a friend & a supporter ever since.
Since then only 2 people legitimately beat him Paul Williams won a close decision over him & Manny Pacquaio beat him. BOTH knew they had been in a fight. Goosen said " He's in our past not our future when tony asked for a rematch with Williams.
Don't you realize that the lying POS that started this loaded gloves bullcrap is the same jerk that exposed your idol Trinidad's doctored wraps. Tito's were illegal too If I was childish like you I guess I could name him Cheato Tito. Didn't matter tho another buddy of mine schooled Tito & put him on his ass Bernard Hopkins
Tony Margarito did NOTHING wrong & the CSAC know it he was suspended on the word of a blatant liar the CSAC fell for it hook line & sinker.
What happened was the prosecuter , the CSAC,, decided Margarito was guilty & sentenced him no need for a court That is a KANGAROO COURT.
Ive been in and around the sport of boxing for over 35 years you weren't even born then LOL. Now go to bed its a schoolday tomorrow Take Teddy you can leave the night light on Bye Bye
.... and YET in the court of public opinion (what really counts), Margarito remains a disgraced cheater. So go ahead... trudge on with your conspiracy theories and your ridiculous defenses. Too bad you don't own a time machine. It's the only way you could ever undo the damage the scumbag brought onto himself. He'll always be remembered for his wraps... and the only way he'll ever get to the HOF is if he buys an admission ticket.
Meanwhile, Trinidad is already in the HOF and will soon enough be followed by Cotto.
Won't THAT be a kick in the balls for you.
;)
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mikeeod
On to the important news... I try not to check out another man's wife (or girlfriend), but she was beautiful, and if he really is divorcing her, he is messing up! He's not going to do better or even close to her again...
Tony & Michelle were both very nice people. They were HS sweethearts & seemed very much in love when I last saw them. Shame when things go wrong
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ruthless rocco
Read what the report actually said . After testing the pad under a MICROSCOPE THERE WAS INDEED trace elements OF sulpher & calcium discovered. Trace elements means VERY VERY minute traces you need a microscope to see. Indeed Large amounts of calcium & sulpher mixed with water would make plaster BUT what they neglected to post was calcium & sulpher are also ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT not to mention HAND CREME too. This is precisely why no charges were ever brought as they would have been laughed out of court. The jerk that wrote that garbage should have been sued for defamation of character The headline in a BLATANT LIE
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
C.J.Rock
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I can discuss boxing.
It's blind fanboyism I can't really discuss.
Oops..... I said "blind".
Did that strike a chord with you? Seeing as to how you're Cheato's lifelong friend?
Was that "insensitive" of me?
I see the origin of your fanboyism, though.
You personally know Cheato and his wife.
You two must go way back, huh.
Must've given you quite an ulcer to watch Cheato plummet from glory in the worst way possible, exposed as a cheating sack of shit.
Man.... that's gotta hurt.
If it'll make you feel any better, I was slightly sad when he got his eye socket shattered by Pacquaio.
No.... not really.... I was just making conversation.
But take heart. You're one of maybe a dozen or people who still support Cheato to this day.
Of course, that includes his immediate family.
So keep on cheering for the guy and ranting like a lunatic that he was railroaded by.... how did you put it? A kangaroo court?
You're one funny 23-year old.
So if you and Cheato go way back.... you must've been like a teenager when you met him, huh.
Which means he was your hero and you idolized him.
Damn.....
How did it feel when Cheato was exposed, suspended, and disgraced?
Did you cry for a long time?
Did you become angry at the boxing world?
Did you go to school the next day?
Damn, kid..... what can I say. :-\
Youre not really worth it but I'm bored so here goes
I first met Tony Margarito in 1999 when he came to Ft Worth Tx to fight the infamous Buck Smith. Tony Ko'd him in the 4th I believe. Ive been a friend & a supporter ever since.
Since then only 2 people legitimately beat him Paul Williams won a close decision over him & Manny Pacquaio beat him. BOTH knew they had been in a fight. Goosen said " He's in our past not our future when tony asked for a rematch with Williams.
Don't you realize that the lying POS that started this loaded gloves bullcrap is the same jerk that exposed your idol Trinidad's doctored wraps. Tito's were illegal too If I was childish like you I guess I could name him Cheato Tito. Didn't matter tho another buddy of mine schooled Tito & put him on his ass Bernard Hopkins
Tony Margarito did NOTHING wrong & the CSAC know it he was suspended on the word of a blatant liar the CSAC fell for it hook line & sinker.
What happened was the prosecuter , the CSAC,, decided Margarito was guilty & sentenced him no need for a court That is a KANGAROO COURT.
Ive been in and around the sport of boxing for over 35 years you weren't even born then LOL. Now go to bed its a schoolday tomorrow Take Teddy you can leave the night light on Bye Bye
.... and YET in the court of public opinion (what really counts), Margarito remains a disgraced cheater. So go ahead... trudge on with your conspiracy theories and your ridiculous defenses. Too bad you don't own a time machine. It's the only way you could ever undo the damage the scumbag brought onto himself. He'll always be remembered for his wraps... and the only way he'll ever get to the HOF is if he buys an admission ticket.
Meanwhile, Trinidad is already in the HOF and will soon enough be followed by Cotto.
Won't THAT be a kick in the balls for you.
;)
Sylvester Stallone a B movie actor & Jose Suliaman are also in the HOF When they were inducted its credibility was lost How many juicers are in there or will be in there. They say Mosely is a shoo in when he should have been banned for life like in other sports
Trinidads wraps were worse that Margarito's they were HARDENED Margarito's were deemed harmless
You admitted you know Margarito was innocent when you say " in the court of public opinion" & not " in a court of law "
I know Tony Margarito he is twice the fighter & twice the MAN Mosely or Trinidad could ever hope to be
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C.J.Rock
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TitoFan
.... and YET in the court of public opinion (what really counts), Margarito remains a disgraced cheater. So go ahead... trudge on with your conspiracy theories and your ridiculous defenses. Too bad you don't own a time machine. It's the only way you could ever undo the damage the scumbag brought onto himself. He'll always be remembered for his wraps... and the only way he'll ever get to the HOF is if he buys an admission ticket.
Meanwhile, Trinidad is already in the HOF and will soon enough be followed by Cotto.
Won't THAT be a kick in the balls for you.
;)
Sylvester Stallone a B movie actor & Jose Suliaman are also in the HOF When they were inducted its credibility was lost How many juicers are in there or will be in there. They say Mosely is a shoo in when he should have been banned for life like in other sports
Trinidads wraps were worse that Margarito's they were HARDENED Margarito's were deemed harmless
You admitted you know Margarito was innocent when you say " in the court of public opinion" & not " in a court of law "
I know Tony Margarito he is twice the fighter & twice the MAN Mosely or Trinidad could ever hope to be
Trinidad's method of wrapping the tape was not permitted in NYC. A lot different from the plaster of Paris ingredients found in Margarito's wraps. I realize you're desperate and bitter, but don't twist facts just to make yourself feel better.
Margarito "twice the MAN" Mosley or Trinidad "could ever hope to be"??
Damn... if I didn't know any better, I'd say you have a severe man-crush on ol' Marge.
The fact still remains.... Margarito is and will always be viewed as a scumbag cheater.
Read the posts of the entire civilized world and you'll realize it.
You know... I'd much rather be on THIS side of the argument than on your side.
It must suck to be you right now.
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I'm out of CREME for my coffee, could I use a trace amount of plaster instead? I'm late to my Kangaroo court date, there is HUMAN SWEAT on my palms I'm so nervous.
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p4pking
I'm out of CREME for my coffee, could I use a trace amount of plaster instead? I'm late to my Kangaroo court date, there is HUMAN SWEAT on my palms I'm so nervous.
That silly post is all you got huh? Shame you haven't got enough intelligence to talk boxing isn't it? I guess you came from the same litter as Rocco & Titofan LOL
Add all 3 of ya's IQ's together wouldn't add up to 25
Have a wonderful day BYE BYE
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
C.J.Rock
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
.... and YET in the court of public opinion (what really counts), Margarito remains a disgraced cheater. So go ahead... trudge on with your conspiracy theories and your ridiculous defenses. Too bad you don't own a time machine. It's the only way you could ever undo the damage the scumbag brought onto himself. He'll always be remembered for his wraps... and the only way he'll ever get to the HOF is if he buys an admission ticket.
Meanwhile, Trinidad is already in the HOF and will soon enough be followed by Cotto.
Won't THAT be a kick in the balls for you.
;)
Sylvester Stallone a B movie actor & Jose Suliaman are also in the HOF When they were inducted its credibility was lost How many juicers are in there or will be in there. They say Mosely is a shoo in when he should have been banned for life like in other sports
Trinidads wraps were worse that Margarito's they were HARDENED Margarito's were deemed harmless
You admitted you know Margarito was innocent when you say " in the court of public opinion" & not " in a court of law "
I know Tony Margarito he is twice the fighter & twice the MAN Mosely or Trinidad could ever hope to be
Trinidad's method of wrapping the tape was not permitted in NYC. A lot different from the plaster of Paris ingredients found in Margarito's wraps. I realize you're desperate and bitter, but don't twist facts just to make yourself feel better.
Margarito "twice the MAN" Mosley or Trinidad "could ever hope to be"??
Damn... if I didn't know any better, I'd say you have a severe man-crush on ol' Marge.
The fact still remains.... Margarito is and will always be viewed as a scumbag cheater.
Read the posts of the entire civilized world and you'll realize it.
You know... I'd much rather be on THIS side of the argument than on your side.
It must suck to be you right now.
I'm happy being on the RIGHT side of the argument thanks. Glad I'm not part of your narrow minded bunch of losers who are fans of Fighters that are SCARED of Margarito
Lets hear you answer this.
While its true Calcium & sulpher are ingredients of plaster when mixed with water if you had any intelligence at all you'd know they are also ingredients found in human sweat.
Google it & you'll see. Every fighters wraps & pads would contain calcium & sulpher if tested from the fighters sweat & hand crème most fighters use
Trinidads Wraps were BLATANTLY ILLEGAL !! & very hard. That pad of Margarito's was still soft when the lab finished testing it 2 months later. Right before the CSAC claim they'd MISLAID it CONVENIENTLY!!!!!!!
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Anyone think he understands why that post is hilarious?
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Someone mislaid my hand creme also, if you had any intelligence you'd know it.
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Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!
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Tony & C.J. 4ever.
After all.... C.J. did say that Margarito is "twice the MAN Mosley or Trinidad could ever hope to be".
(Hmm... I wonder if he was talking about length or girth.)
There IS that odd fascination with "hand crème". :-X
Friends with benefits.
;)
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See what I mean? Look at the above posts ?? A gang of idiots that do not have a clue about boxing making childish remarks . When you sink to that level you've already admitted defeat :LOLATYOU: Margarito :pis2: Trinidad
Come back when you can discuss boxing If you ever get enough intelligence
Byeeeeeeeeee!!!!
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I know several people that have known Magarito for years. By all accounts he is a gentleman and a hard working professional. I have yet to meet anybody in the boxing community that takes the "plaster of Paris wraps" nonsense seriously. What people that know him do talk about is how close he and his wife have always been; she worked to support him as he fought his way up. The hope is that he will come to his senses, stay retired and stay with the woman that he has loved for years.
The problem with the Internet is that, while everybody is entitled to an opinion, now they are all broadcast. There is a pretty thin line between being strong in your beliefs and being a shit talking buffoon.
Keep in mind, Tito Trinidad was cited for illegal wraps and the issue was an extra couple inches of tape. Next week you will all be calling him a cheater; I've seen some of you do it. If you had any freaking clue as to what goes on backstage at a boxing match...the number of people that inspect hand wraps before a fighter is allowed to glove up. What you dingbats are claiming happened is not possible. It just is not fucking possible.
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greynotsoold
I know several people that have known Magarito for years. By all accounts he is a gentleman and a hard working professional. I have yet to meet anybody in the boxing community that takes the "plaster of Paris wraps" nonsense seriously. What people that know him do talk about is how close he and his wife have always been; she worked to support him as he fought his way up. The hope is that he will come to his senses, stay retired and stay with the woman that he has loved for years.
The problem with the Internet is that, while everybody is entitled to an opinion, now they are all broadcast. There is a pretty thin line between being strong in your beliefs and being a shit talking buffoon.
Keep in mind, Tito Trinidad was cited for illegal wraps and the issue was an extra couple inches of tape. Next week you will all be calling him a cheater; I've seen some of you do it. If you had any freaking clue as to what goes on backstage at a boxing match...the number of people that inspect hand wraps before a fighter is allowed to glove up. What you dingbats are claiming happened is not possible. It just is not fucking possible.
But you are doing the same thing and the fact is he did cheat. Getting caught in the attempt to cheat at cards is one thing and getting caught with loaded gloves before a fight is quite another. Honourable people and seemingly good people cheat all the time and especially athletes. I'm sure he was a great husband and good guy. Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.
I think people are beating a dead horse with this issue regardless. The man has suffered enough and has lost everything really even if he was asleep when he hands were wrapped. The damage is done.
Its no longer about the cheating for me, its about moving on. There is no scientific proof that he cheated before even though if he was willing to for Shane its not a leap to think Capetillo would have loaded for a prime Cotto. And even if he did there is reasonable doubt that Margaito didn't know. Speaking for myself I've crucified the guy enough and dont feel its necessary to hang him upside down on the cross. I've compared him to Resto and its just not the same. If we are going to convict people over issues that may have happened in the past and we look hard enough, we could indict many successful boxers of the modern era and an equal amount of managers and trainers. I do think he most likely had dirty wraps with Cotto but that's not proof that he did or knew about it and I need to let it go.
The man has a right to earn a living and get a second chance just as we all do. Murderers and rapists get better ink then this guy does.
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IamInuit
Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.
This is all I need to know about the subject thank you.
If the forum had been around when Resto was indicted, I would've been the first in line with the pitchforks and the lighted torches. But when.... let's say, less-than-fully-enlightened people try and draw a parallel between the Trinidad issue and the Margarito issue.... I stop listening and chalk it up to ignorance. Same can be said of De La Hoya, who had his own handwrap controversies... and probably just about any other fighter whose tape-wrapping methods have been called into question at one point or another.
Margarito was caught trying to cheat. What is so goddam hard to understand about that??
My guy gets caught in a blatant lie or cheat, I'll be the first to f*cking admit it. That's how I am and that's how I've always been. But I won't lay down for ignorant critiques from blind, know-nothing fans.
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C.J.Rock
See what I mean? Look at the above posts ?? A gang of idiots that do not have a clue about boxing making childish remarks . When you sink to that level you've already admitted defeat :LOLATYOU: Margarito :pis2: Trinidad
Come back when you can discuss boxing If you ever get enough intelligence
Byeeeeeeeeee!!!!
Who is making childish remarks? Seriously ask yourself.
You insulted people's intelligence and in the same post showed complete ignorance. That is not an insult, it is a fact. Look into IQ tests and you will understand that what you said was completely ignorant, that's a fact, not a juvenile response. That's what was funny about it.
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
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Originally Posted by
greynotsoold
I know several people that have known Magarito for years. By all accounts he is a gentleman and a hard working professional. I have yet to meet anybody in the boxing community that takes the "plaster of Paris wraps" nonsense seriously. What people that know him do talk about is how close he and his wife have always been; she worked to support him as he fought his way up. The hope is that he will come to his senses, stay retired and stay with the woman that he has loved for years.
The problem with the Internet is that, while everybody is entitled to an opinion, now they are all broadcast. There is a pretty thin line between being strong in your beliefs and being a shit talking buffoon.
Keep in mind, Tito Trinidad was cited for illegal wraps and the issue was an extra couple inches of tape. Next week you will all be calling him a cheater; I've seen some of you do it. If you had any freaking clue as to what goes on backstage at a boxing match...the number of people that inspect hand wraps before a fighter is allowed to glove up. What you dingbats are claiming happened is not possible. It just is not fucking possible.
But you are doing the same thing and the fact is he did cheat. Getting caught in the attempt to cheat at cards is one thing and getting caught with loaded gloves before a fight is quite another. Honourable people and seemingly good people cheat all the time and especially athletes. I'm sure he was a great husband and good guy. Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.
I think people are beating a dead horse with this issue regardless. The man has suffered enough and has lost everything really even if he was asleep when he hands were wrapped. The damage is done.
Its no longer about the cheating for me, its about moving on. There is no scientific proof that he cheated before even though if he was willing to for Shane its not a leap to think
Capetillo would have loaded for a prime Cotto. And even if he did there is reasonable doubt that Margaito didn't know. Speaking for myself I've crucified the guy enough and dont feel its necessary to hang him upside down on the cross. I've compared him to Resto and its just not the same. If we are going to convict people over issues that may have happened in the past and we look hard enough, we could indict many successful boxers of the modern era and an equal amount of managers and trainers. I do think he most likely had dirty wraps with Cotto but that's not proof that he did or knew about it and I need to let it go.
The man has a right to earn a living and get a second chance just as we all do. Murderers and rapists get better ink then this guy does.
That's the whole point Margarito did NOT have loaded gloves The used pad that was in the wrap was deemed HARMLESS by the lab that tested it. This whole pantomime was initiated by Nazim Richardson who claimed PLASTER Blocks fell out. The CSAC took off like the keystone kops& suspended Margarito BEFORE the pad had been tested.
I KNOW for certain Margarito's wraps were 100% legit for Cotto 1 to say they were anything else is .preposterous I
A fighters good name & career were severely tarnished by what was proven to be a blatant lie it was a disgrace
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
IamInuit
Sticking inserts with any kind of hardening substance involved into hand wraps is different then changing gauze direction and adding a couple of strips of tape.
This is all I need to know about the subject thank you.
If the forum had been around when Resto was indicted, I would've been the first in line with the pitchforks and the lighted torches. But when.... let's say, less-than-fully-enlightened people try and draw a parallel between the Trinidad issue and the Margarito issue.... I stop listening and chalk it up to ignorance. Same can be said of De La Hoya, who had his own handwrap controversies... and probably just about any other fighter whose tape-wrapping methods have been called into question at one point or another.
Margarito was caught trying to cheat. What is so goddam hard to understand about that??
My guy gets caught in a blatant lie or cheat, I'll be the first to f*cking admit it. That's how I am and that's how I've always been. But I won't lay down for ignorant critiques from blind, know-nothing fans.
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
One guy admitted he knew the padding was removed from his gloves and went to prison.
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day. Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
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@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?
These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.
I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.
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Fenster
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.
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Fenster
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.
Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.
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Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.
Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.
You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
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Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.
Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.
You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
Selective Reading 101.
I personally passed on that elective.
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.
Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.
You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
Selective Reading 101.
I personally passed on that elective.
You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?
Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.
Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.
José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.
You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
Selective Reading 101.
I personally passed on that elective.
You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?
That's beside the point, isn't it.
You ignore 90% of my post.
What do you expect in return.
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I think it's a bit hypocritical to call people "ignorant" for comparing Tito's hand wrap issues with "Margacheato's" yet at the same time make a parallel between Margarito and Resto. That's all.
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Fenster
I think it's a bit hypocritical to call people "ignorant" for comparing Tito's hand wrap issues with "Margacheato's" yet at the same time make a parallel between Margarito and Resto. That's all.
I did the first... not the second.
Technically though, Margarito and Resto were both punished for handwrap transgressions.
Trinidad, as with De La Hoya, was critized for tape wrapping methodology.
Neither was ever punished, regardless of any hater criticism.
You can split hairs all you want... that's how it all goes down.
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Memphis
@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?
These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.
I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.
To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol
Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case
Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them
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Until the day anyone can show me undeniable proof Antonio Margarito ever intentionally loaded or even TRIED to load his gloves I will always regard him as innocent. He has had his good name tarnished & his career tarnished by what to me was just a BLATANT LIE!!!!
What happened to the US law A man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
ROFL Margarito was never charged because they had nothing on him & would have been laughed out of court
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Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
:appl:
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
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I think C.J.Rock's inside info is at least worth a read.
@ruthless rocco - so far this is your contribution to the thread.
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welcome back loser!
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ruthless rocco
HAHHAHahaHaHaHaHahaha!!!!!!!
"Boxing's Living Legend" (self proclaimed) Does it again!!!! Hahahhaha!
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ruthless rocco
You know him personally huh?
What's that saying? Birds of a feather..? Haha! Couple of losers.
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ruthless rocco
You're a used gauze pad.
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ruthless rocco
Hahaha! What a loser!
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ruthless rocco
"hand crème"
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ruthless rocco
Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!
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ruthless rocco
Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.
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ruthless rocco
Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!
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ruthless rocco
:appl:
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
You have offered nothing to the debate. All you've done is insult someone that offers an alternative opinion.
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Re: MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!
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Originally Posted by
C.J.Rock
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Originally Posted by
Memphis
@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?
These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.
I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.
To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol
Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case
Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them
Thanks mate.
I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim :). The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.
Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.
I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?
