MARGARITO divorced his HS sweetheart and making a comeback !!!!

[TitoFan]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

[Fenster]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

[TitoFan]

"Less-than-fully-enlightened people" try and draw a parallel between Margarito and Resto too. That must be ignorance, right?

Two different people... two different cases. Doesn't in itself prove Margarito's innocence, though.

There's not a shred of evidence that the other guy fought a single fight with illegal hand-wraps and protests his innocence to this day.

Yes... he protests his innocence. Cheaters always take one of two different approaches when caught. O.J. Simpson to this day protests his innocence in the famous murder cases involving his ex and her boyfriend.

Plus has many preeminent figures in the boxing industry willing to back his innocence.

José Sulaiman (RIP) being one of them. To the bitter end.
Just like him... there must be at least 2-3 others.

You agree that it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

Selective Reading 101.

I personally passed on that elective.

You don't agree it's "ignorant" to compare Margarito with Resto?

That's beside the point, isn't it.
You ignore 90% of my post.
What do you expect in return.

[Fenster]

I think it's a bit hypocritical to call people "ignorant" for comparing Tito's hand wrap issues with "Margacheato's" yet at the same time make a parallel between Margarito and Resto. That's all.

[TitoFan]

I think it's a bit hypocritical to call people "ignorant" for comparing Tito's hand wrap issues with "Margacheato's" yet at the same time make a parallel between Margarito and Resto. That's all.

I did the first... not the second.
Technically though, Margarito and Resto were both punished for handwrap transgressions.
Trinidad, as with De La Hoya, was critized for tape wrapping methodology.
Neither was ever punished, regardless of any hater criticism.
You can split hairs all you want... that's how it all goes down.

[C.J.Rock]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

[C.J.Rock]

Until the day anyone can show me undeniable proof Antonio Margarito ever intentionally loaded or even TRIED to load his gloves I will always regard him as innocent. He has had his good name tarnished & his career tarnished by what to me was just a BLATANT LIE!!!!
What happened to the US law A man is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law
ROFL Margarito was never charged because they had nothing on him & would have been laughed out of court

[ruthless rocco]

Nothing to see here.
Move along.

[Fenster]

I think C.J.Rock's inside info is at least worth a read.

@ruthless rocco - so far this is your contribution to the thread.

welcome back loser!

HAHHAHahaHaHaHaHahaha!!!!!!!

"Boxing's Living Legend" (self proclaimed) Does it again!!!! Hahahhaha!

You know him personally huh?

What's that saying? Birds of a feather..? Haha! Couple of losers.

You're a used gauze pad.

Hahaha! What a loser!

"hand crème"

Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!

Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.

Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!

Nothing to see here.
Move along.

You have offered nothing to the debate. All you've done is insult someone that offers an alternative opinion.

[Memphis]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

Thanks mate.


I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim . The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.


Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.


I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?

[ruthless rocco]

I think C.J.Rock's inside info is at least worth a read.

@ruthless rocco - so far this is your contribution to the thread.

welcome back loser!

HAHHAHahaHaHaHaHahaha!!!!!!!

"Boxing's Living Legend" (self proclaimed) Does it again!!!! Hahahhaha!

You know him personally huh?

What's that saying? Birds of a feather..? Haha! Couple of losers.

You're a used gauze pad.

Hahaha! What a loser!

"hand crème"

Hahahaha! I thought I was the biggest idiot on the forum!

Another CLASSIC!
Promise me you'll never change.

Poor fucker doesn't even get it! Haha!!!!

Nothing to see here.
Move along.

You have offered nothing to the debate. All you've done is insult someone that offers an alternative opinion.

Gee, I'm speechless! I though most everyone had me on ignore.

Thanks for highlighting my posts from this thread so the ones that do have me on ignore get to read my greatest hits!!!

[Fenster]

If I deleted all your posts from the thread, along with some other posters, then it would look like a bunch of adults were having a discussion instead of a bunch of children. That's all.

[ruthless rocco]

If I deleted all your posts from the thread, along with some other posters, then it would look like a bunch of adults were having a discussion instead of a bunch of children. That's all.

...but where's the fun in that? (Aside from an "adult" authoritarian impulse to flex one's MOD-given muscle.)

[TitoFan]

A person defending a fighter because they happen to be friends, and because..... (cough) "he's a nice guy"..... doesn't amount to diddly squat when it comes to proving that fighter's innocence or lack of guilt as it were. For this person to be crying foul, or conspiracy, or kangaroo court, whatever.... is both laughable and a travesty. Maybe if a convicted cheater was my personal friend and I knew both him and his wife... maybe I'd behave in the same transparent, biased, blind, totally subjective manner.

.... but I would hope not.

[C.J.Rock]

@C.J.Rock were you present when the knuckle pad was made up for the Cotto fight? Was the blood on the inner pad (Mosley fight) ever tested? Have you ever been present pre Mosley when Capetillo made knuckle pads/wrapped hands? If so how were the pads looked after once made up?


These aren't leading questions by the way, just curious.


I think the course of action taken was the right one. For one reason only. The buck for the condition legal or otherwise of equipment falls with Margarito. No one believes a fighter when they say they had no idea the supplements they were taking were illegal. In fact believing them or not is irrelevant, it's their responsibility and they should pay the price. Capetillo or any other trainer saying a fighter could be blissfully unaware of what was in his gauze is irrelevant.

To answer the first question .. Yes I was witnessed Margaritos hand wrapping many times over the years & have never seen anything illegal
2... The "blood" on the wrap was red dye from the gloves not blood & it was on the outside lol


Beleve me If I thought for one minute Tony Margarito had intentionally EVER tried to load his gloves I would be the first one calling for a lifetime ban.. Reso & Lewis should have been charged with manslaughter in the Billy Collins case


Incidentally why don't you try asking Nazim Richardson what happened to the "PLASTER BLOCKS" he claimed fell out of Margarito's wraps?? After all he was the ONLY one that claimed to have seen them

Thanks mate.


I don't think there's any need to bother Brother Nazim . The plaster blocks line is clearly a bit of poetic license, or bullshit, whichever way you like it.


Would it be fair to say that there is a portion of the hand wrapping process (making up the knuckle pad) that is going on 'behind closed doors'? That's the issue for me.


I'm not asking you to prove any innocence here, it's just that you're the closest link so I'm asking the question. For the Miguel Cotto fight did you see Capetillo make the knuckle pad from scratch? Or any other fight for that matter?

I watched the wrapping many times but never thought to pay that much attention Javier always had pads ready in his bag He said he accidently picked up a used one I have no reason to doubt that's what happened.