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You posted a link with comments from that simpleton Chuck Hagel and that fat ape Michael Moore...gee however could I disagree with those two :rolleyes:
A war for oil eh? Well according to this
http://a57.foxnews.com/media.foxbusi...sel_Taylor.jpg
We get a whopping 3.2% of our oil from Iraq....maaaaan why didn't we blow them up sooner? Also why didn't we blow up Canada? Pfffft that would be too easy I guess
There is a reason why the thread has turned to the Iraq war and it has nothing to do with me. Yourself and Miles and Lyle all took it down that dead end. As for Straw man arguments it really is not the case that I misrepresented your own arguments but rather that you have yourself resorted to creating such fallacies to defend an untenable position.
If like you attest the Iraq war was ENTIRELY about access to it's Oil reserves then what happened to the victims of genocide planned and carried out ? Were they not good enough reasons to question the lefts policy of turning a blind eye. Do you really think the wringing of hands or averting ones eyes while atrocities are carried out amounts to anything more than being an apologist for Murderous dictators like Saddam Hussein?
You are trying to make out that people who carry out acts of terror, whether in New York or Woolwich are seeking to avenge the deaths of innocent Muslims when in reality they are seeking to usher in a new regime of intolerance and barbarity in which more innocent people of all faiths and none are crushed under their medieval doctrines.
No Beanz all the Muslims do is "retaliate" the Westerners are the terrorists....the people who accept these people of different faiths into their communities and treat them in a neighborly fashion are the REAL bad people here and it's all because of their greed for oil, I mean search your soul, you know it to be true.
And the Jews, well honestly the Palestinians are just trying to reclaim what was rightfully theirs when they just up and decided to become "Palestinians" ;) when they realized they were getting a Jewish neighbor and well one Holocaust wasn't enough so they'll just have to try again....crafty Jews....am I right Kirkland, eh comrade?!?!?
however it's not going to lastQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
List of countries by proven oil reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Countries - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
it's about securing 'future' oil reserves :rolleyes:
OOOOOOH well yes of course :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Couldn't the war be because Saddam repeatedly violated UN multiple sanctions? Nah, nah it's TOTALLY due to oil to which I might add is extremely fucking expensive so why the fuck would that be if we went to war for oil? Why wouldn't the oil be dirt cheap right now? Riddle me that Missy
yet energy prices are going up hmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by El KabongOOOOOOH well yes of course :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Couldn't the war be because Saddam repeatedly violated UN multiple sanctions? Nah, nah it's TOTALLY due to oil to which I might add is extremely fucking expensive so why the fuck would that be if we went to war for oil? Why wouldn't the oil be dirt cheap right now? Riddle me that Missy
and you mean like the kind of UN violation that means Under the UN Charter, "there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful."
and of course the weapons the governments lied about to 'justify' a war.
But it's ok you carry on with the thread hijack
#1 The UN is impotent, if that's their view on war then I guess 0 of their sanctions have any teeth. "We as the UN tell you to do x, y, and z and if you don't........well we just won't like you very much Saddam!" GAY, that's fucking gayQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
#2 I didn't hijack anything, miles and Kirkland are the ones saying "Well this attack was kind of justified because of the War on Terror" then they brought up the whole "illegal war" bullshit and now all the sissies want to join in on talking about Iraq...where I merely stated that A) Its a horrible attack B ) some bystander should have done SOMETHING and C) if those bastards stay in jail forever they'll only make more people radicalized and I proved that by linking a story which you apparently passed right on by.
#3 Have fun with your muzzies, your country has appeased the radical ones for far too long
#4 Where did the WMD's from Iraq go???
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9df_1369675224
Syria anyone???
LiveLeak.com - Smoking Gun for Syria Gas Attack - We know who did it!
muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.
Islam isn't a race.....thought you should knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
It's the same if someone was hating on Jews calling Muslims 'muzzies'Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongIslam isn't a race.....thought you should knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Oh now I know what muzzies are :-X!
Had me stumped there for bit.
Oil is all about controlling the world price not supply. It is about barrels released and produced on demand as much as stockpiles.
The Middle east consortium via a few global companies (It had a real name,which I forget, but it was a number of countries who sought to join up to be in the controlling position of the world price).
They nearly got control at one point and were a mere vote away from a monopoly on it, its only that they fell apart in disagreement and lost some voters over our Israeli friends doing something or another at the time, that they fucked themselves up.
Usa saw this and have worked very nicely on a number of levels to halt them ever going up the same path and forming into another. A foothold over there is very useful.
That is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.
and Paki is?Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.
I couldnt find the thing I had read just yet on it; but this spells out why America is in the region in no uncertain terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
American intervention in the Middle East
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This article has no lead section. Please help by adding an introductory section to this article. For more information, see the layout guide, and Wikipedia's lead section guidelines. (May 2011) This article provides an overview of American interventions in the Middle East executed between 1941 and before the Iranian Revolution in 1978-1979.
Contents
- 1 Background
- 2 Israel
- 3 Syria: 1949
- 4 Mosaddeq and the Shah
- 5 Egypt 1956: The Suez Crisis
- 6 The Six Day War and Black September
- 7 Afghanistan and Pakistan
- 8 See also
- 9 References
- 10 External links
Background
The United States’ relationship with the Middle East prior to the Second World War was minimal. Moreover, in comparison to European powers such as Britain and France which had managed to colonize almost all of the Middle East region after defeating the Ottoman Empire in 1918, the United States was ‘popular and respected throughout the Middle East’.[1] Indeed, ‘Americans were seen as good people, untainted by the selfishness and duplicity associated with the Europeans’.[2] American missionaries had brought modern medicine and set up educational institutions all over the Middle East. Moreover, the US had provided the Middle East with highly skilled petroleum engineers.[3] Thus, there were some connections made between the United States and the Middle East before the Second World War. Other examples of cooperations between the US and the Middle East are the Red Line Agreement signed in 1928 and the Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement signed in 1944. Both of these agreements were legally binding and reflected an American interest in control of Middle Eastern energy resources, namely oil, and moreover reflected an American ‘security imperative to prevent the (re)emergence of a powerful regional rival’.[4] The Red Line Agreement had been ‘part of a network of agreements made in the 1920s to restrict supply of petroleum and ensure that the major [mostly American] companies…could control oil prices on world markets’.[5] The Red Line agreement governed the development of Middle East oil for the next two decades. The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:
Persian oil …is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it’s ours.[6]
On August 8, 1944, the Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement was signed, dividing Middle Eastern oil between the United States and Britain. Consequently, political scholar Fred H Lawson remarks, that ‘by mid-1944, U.S. officials had buttressed their country’s position on the peninsula by concluding an Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement that protected “all valid concession contracts and lawfully acquired rights” belonging to the signatories and established a principle of “equal opportunity” in those areas where no concession had yet been assigned.’[7] Furthermore, political scholar Irvine Anderson summarises American interests in the Middle East in the late 19th century and the early 20th century noting that, ‘the most significant event of the period was the transition of the United States from the position of net exporter to one of net importer of petroleum.’[8]
By the end of the Second World War, the United States had come to consider the Middle East region as ‘the most strategically important area of the world’.[9] and ‘…one of the greatest material prizes in world history’.[9] For that reason, it was not until around the period of the Second World War that America became directly involved in the Middle East region. At this time the region was going through great social, economic and political changes and as a result, internally the Middle East region was in turmoil. Politically, the Middle East was experiencing an upsurge in the popularity of nationalistic politics and an increase in the number of nationalistic political groups across the region, which was causing great trouble for the English and French colonial powers.
History scholar Jack Watson explains that ‘Europeans could not hold these lands indefinitely in the face of Arab nationalism’.[10] Watson then continues, stating that ‘by the end of 1946 Palestine was the last remaining mandate, but it posed a major problem’. .[11] In truth, this nationalistic political trend clashed with American interests in the Middle East region, which were, as Middle East scholar Louise Fawcett argues, ‘about the Soviet Union, access to oil and the project for a Jewish state in Palestine.’[12] Hence, ‘‘‘Arabist’ ambassador Raymond Hare’ described the Second World War period, as ‘the great divide’ in United States’ relation with the Middle East, because these three interests would later serve as a backdrop and reasoning for a great deal of American interventions in the Middle East and thus also come to be the cause of several future conflicts between the United States and the Middle East.[2]
For more details on Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement, see Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement.
....also not a racial slur because it describes people from a certain country and not people of a certain raceQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyand Paki is?Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.
why does everything have to be taken as a racial insult? You PC Nazis need to chill the fudge out. Yes I just called you a PC Nazi.
A word with an extremely ridiculous amount of power. Yeno if someone looked at me and called me a horrible ginger bastard, do you think I look at that guy and question if he hates ginger people? No, because I'm not so pathetic as to be overly sensitive about an adjective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyand Paki is?Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.
Getting back on track; this sort of thing is another reason why Muslims need to sort their Islamic laws out too as well as stopping future terrorism so that we can start to see them acting as they preach, a religion of peace.
Saudi blood money ruling angers activists - Middle East - Al Jazeera English
well you go shouting that round Bradford and see how far that gets you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong....also not a racial slur because it describes people from a certain country and not people of a certain raceQuote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyand Paki is?Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThat is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.
It's not about being PC anything, it's about acknowledging that words are loaded with meaning and if you're so ignorant to wilfully ignore that..
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Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
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Originally Posted by GreenbeanzQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingI'm not making an excuse for anything or trying to justify anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Let's say me and you are going to a football match. We're seated outside a pub before the game enjoying a glass of chilled chablis and watching the world go by. On the other side of the street X, a big bugger in stylish blue polyester, is walking down the street. Y, a smaller man clad in red ployester, is walking the other way. As they come up to each other X punches Y right in the dish. Y falls to the ground, gets up, takes a knife out of his pocket and stabs Y with it, killing him instantly.
Now lter we're talking about the incident. I say to you that if X hadn't punched Y in the face in the first place then he'd never have been stabbed and killed. I might also comment on the nature of violent acts begetting further violence. I see this as reasonable speculation about the incident and violent acts in general. Neither of these two arguments negates the fact that the stabbing was a reprehensible act of murder, excuses it or justifies it in any way.
" And it's that kind of thing that pisses Muslims off and causes them to bomb your skyscrapers, sporting events etc."
Those people had an agenda. That agenda was not to draw attention to an injustice suffered by innocent civilians at the hands of indiscriminate carpet bombing by allied forces. Their agenda was the propagation of extremist ideology and the glorification of violence. So clever is this agenda that you and thousands of well meaning people like yourself have now been used to propagate it. To call them Muslim, and this is where both you and Lyle agree, is to further heap insult onto the civilian victims of extremism who would not raise their hand in violence.
Miles who like yourself, I would in many instances defer to as having superior knowledge on politics, economy and history comes to the same conclusion as you and it surprises me considering his distaste for religion. These same religious extremists are often responsible for agitation and the escalation of sectarian violence within Muslim countries. Their war is not just with Britain,America and the West but with moderates in their own countries who would condone the mutilation of women, the burning of books and the execution of ethnic groups they deem to not be pious or totalitarian enough in enforcing their own twisted brand of religion.
If we are really interested in justice then how hypocritical is it to enjoy the benefits of living in a flawed but basically decent democratic society and then turn our eyes away from those whose own liberties are trampled on by despotic leaders who seek to persecute and wipe out those who seek nothing more than the human rights we hold dear ? You can pretend that the Iraq war was all about Oil but that is a gross over simplification and misrepresentation of a conflict prompted by much more than that and at it's heart represented a universalism and willingness to stand alongside others who wished for nothing more than the opportunity to aspire to liberal ideals.
The Left has let down many oppressed people in these conflicts by deluding themselves into thinking that groups like the Taliban can be reasoned with or that the victims of such nutjobs should be allowed to remain subjugated in order to ease their own uncomfortable feelings about the harsh bloody realities of liberation. I say this as somebody who I consider to be way farther to the left than either yourself or Miles. Pacifism does not work and the kind of socialism that busies itself only with the interests of it's own members due to something as arbitrary as nationality is acting in a far more self interested way than the most hard hearted of Capitalists.
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Originally Posted by Andre
How is what happens in Saudi Arabia getting back on track ? Saudi Laws are Barbaric and there is no justification for that regime or the laws that govern it. If people in SA or the UK choose to use a weird perverted form of Islam to justify themselves carrying out the most barbarous of acts then what more can moderate Muslims do but condemn it vocally and vehemently oppose it ? I don't doubt that there are many who feel fully justified in exploiting a religion for their own twisted agenda but I will not pretend that it is OK for them to use it as an excuse to hide behind. Religion is poisonous. It relies on hypocrisy to rule people by fear. All the way back to Moses this is evident, in that immediately after declaring one of the ten commandments was "Thou shalt not Kill", Moses instructs Aaron, along with the sons of Levi, to take their swords and slay everyone who worshipped the calf, that Aaron a son of Levi, had made.
The only way to way to combat irrational hatred, depravity and barbarity is to reject the Idea that God, or anything that People claim he said, is in any way relevant to the behaviour of human beings. It's not an excuse, it's not a reason and it sure as hell is not a defence for things that society and individuals know to be innately wrong.
They are the lowest of the low. Scum.
Yeah and the ironic thing is that you said the words were and I quote "racist" when in fact Islam is a religion comprised of followers of many races and Pakistan is a country....this whole "words are loaded with meaning" bullshit is just for people who are looking to be offended by something. My advice to the PC Police is to grow the fuck up, it's childish to run around offended because someone called you a name....go back to kindergarten if you want to be offended "Teacher, teacher, little Billy called me a name!" :eek: why don't we just dial 9-Wah-Wah and get the Wahmbulance out for you bunch of God damned sissies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
If Paki is truly a "racist" term then Missy, miles, and Kirkland at the very least should be banned for all the horrible things they've said about Americans.....how's that suit you morons?
It is a racist term and has been used by far right thugs in attacks on anyone who looks Asian, Indians included, so it can't really be compared to terms for Americans who come in all colours, shapes and one size. Xtra large. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Agreed it is an offensive racist word but if anyone called me that then they would not get any reaction from me because that is what they want to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzIt is a racist term and has been used by far right thugs in attacks on anyone who looks Asian, Indians included, so it can't really be compared to terms for Americans who come in all colours, shapes and one size. Xtra large. :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
I don't see how Brit is short for a Britain .
However Paki is short for Pakistan , but to call a Brit British isn't racist , but to call a Pakistani a Paki is racist ? Who makes up these rules , fucking stupid if u ask me , one rule for one , one rule for another.
In case you are wondering , and start to call me racist , my nephew is engaged to a girl of Punjabi stock , and we are great friends.
I just think as a country we have become to politically correct , madness.
The offensive word has been offensive for years, so do not tell me you are surprised. You say that to your nephews girl and you will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
and thank god we can go back to calling niggers, niggers again!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah and the ironic thing is that you said the words were and I quote "racist" when in fact Islam is a religion comprised of followers of many races and Pakistan is a country....this whole "words are loaded with meaning" bullshit is just for people who are looking to be offended by something. My advice to the PC Police is to grow the fuck up, it's childish to run around offended because someone called you a name....go back to kindergarten if you want to be offended "Teacher, teacher, little Billy called me a name!" :eek: why don't we just dial 9-Wah-Wah and get the Wahmbulance out for you bunch of God damned sissies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
I remember as a kid someone telling me being called "colored" was much worse. Of course I wouldn't know, I'm just a inbred cracker. Paki sounds similiar to the way Jap was thrown around, minus the world war and shit.
You do what you feel like just if you're going to be offended (and you are, bless your stupid little heart) then at least attempt to understand the difference between religions, nationalities, and races before labeling something as "racist".Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyand thank god we can go back to calling niggers, niggers again!Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongYeah and the ironic thing is that you said the words were and I quote "racist" when in fact Islam is a religion comprised of followers of many races and Pakistan is a country....this whole "words are loaded with meaning" bullshit is just for people who are looking to be offended by something. My advice to the PC Police is to grow the fuck up, it's childish to run around offended because someone called you a name....go back to kindergarten if you want to be offended "Teacher, teacher, little Billy called me a name!" :eek: why don't we just dial 9-Wah-Wah and get the Wahmbulance out for you bunch of God damned sissies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy
Maybe I should help you understand what it's like when people are reading between the lines of everything you post looking for insults that aren't actually there.
You spelled God with a lowercase 'g', that offends me and every other follower of the Judeo/Christian faiths....you bigot! I'll continue just until you have walked a mile in my shoes.
It's not where you get your oil from. It's where American corporations get their oil from. American corporations don't give a flying fuck about you. You're just simpletons who get to buy their products and fight in their wars. They'll happily sell their oil to the highest bidders, whether that;s the Chinese, the Europeans or whoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And don't forget Iraq turned out to be a complete failure as far as what America wanted to see happen went. You invaded, couldn't set the political system up the way you wanted and ended up handing the country over to Iran.
Here's the handover press conference that the liberal media never showed you on your TV.
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/802...47iCczyg%3D%3D
I didn't say I go round calling anyone a PAKI , I was making a point , and your reaction to jump right on me shows the world has gone mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe offensive word has been offensive for years, so do not tell me you are surprised. You say that to your nephews girl and you will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
BRIT = BRITISH
PAKI = PAKISTANI
You can find something offensive in everything in life , people just need to fucking grow up.
it is that simple , anyone who sees it different is the racist.
http://youtu.be/hpTe8tuaY2Y
My God, what a brazen and boastful display of common sense......HOW VERY DARE YOU!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I only picked this one out of many points you made in your last post that I could have argued. I picked it because us fighting these wars is the reason we're getting incidents like Wollwich.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
What untenable position am I defending?
We don't give a fuck what happens in any of these countries. When Saddam gassed the Kurds he was still on our side and Donald Rumsfeld flew over to sell him more gas.
http://believeinreason.com/wp-conten...eld-Saddam.jpg
The American DIA, the military version of the CIA produced a report that blamed the genocide at Halabja on the Iranians. It was the official US/western position that the Iranians gassed the Kurds until we fell out with Saddam and needed an excuse to go after him. Once again, we don'r give a flying fuck about democracy or human rights in that region. We prop up five dictatorships that border Iraq for fuck's sake. Why aren't we intervening in Bahrain right now to stop the repression and slaughter of the pro-democracy protestors, hmmm?
There guys might well want to turn the whole world Muslim but it's never going to happen, is it? All they're capable of is shit like Woolwich/Boston and the perps themselves have told you why they're doing it.
It was mainly American companies who were controlling the oil market up till the mid seventies when the Atrabs started taking control/Iranian revolution happened and US control started to slip. Here's a brief history:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
OPEC and Crude Oil
#1 your little picture doesn't work dingusQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingIt's not where you get your oil from. It's where American corporations get their oil from. American corporations don't give a flying fuck about you. You're just simpletons who get to buy their products and fight in their wars. They'll happily sell their oil to the highest bidders, whether that;s the Chinese, the Europeans or whoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And don't forget Iraq turned out to be a complete failure as far as what America wanted to see happen went. You invaded, couldn't set the political system up the way you wanted and ended up handing the country over to Iran.
Here's the handover press conference that the liberal media never showed you on your TV.
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/802...47iCczyg%3D%3D
#2 Iraq turned out to be a failure...the United States took over an entire country after 21 days of major combat operations....hardly a "failure" from a military standpoint I mean actually its downright impressive come to think of it. It took the Nazi's 1 month and 5 days to take Poland and that was considered pretty quick. PLUS the US made bombing runs on Iraq & Afghanistan from Air Force bases in Missouri......fucking Missouri man! But I suppose all that is lost on you, America is always the bad guy in your eyes and that's all that matters.
Watch the video of someone not even listening and playing the race card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI didn't say I go round calling anyone a PAKI , I was making a point , and your reaction to jump right on me shows the world has gone mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterThe offensive word has been offensive for years, so do not tell me you are surprised. You say that to your nephews girl and you will see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
BRIT = BRITISH
PAKI = PAKISTANI
You can find something offensive in everything in life , people just need to fucking grow up.
it is that simple , anyone who sees it different is the racist.
Heckler Gets Owned! - YouTube
I was wondering how long this would go before Kirk put up that picture. Kirk, you've got that blown poster size in your house (not your main house but the lake house in Lausanne) don't you?
You invaded a country under false pretence in a war for oil, you killed a couple of hundred thousand civilians and then Iran booted you out. Every paper in the Arabic and Asian world had that photograph and a headline similar to "America's humiliation". Either from a military/foreign policy point of view or just a moral point of view that's nothing to be proud of, is it?Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong#1 your little picture doesn't work dingusQuote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland LaingIt's not where you get your oil from. It's where American corporations get their oil from. American corporations don't give a flying fuck about you. You're just simpletons who get to buy their products and fight in their wars. They'll happily sell their oil to the highest bidders, whether that;s the Chinese, the Europeans or whoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
And don't forget Iraq turned out to be a complete failure as far as what America wanted to see happen went. You invaded, couldn't set the political system up the way you wanted and ended up handing the country over to Iran.
Here's the handover press conference that the liberal media never showed you on your TV.
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/802...47iCczyg%3D%3D
#2 Iraq turned out to be a failure...the United States took over an entire country after 21 days of major combat operations....hardly a "failure" from a military standpoint I mean actually its downright impressive come to think of it. It took the Nazi's 1 month and 5 days to take Poland and that was considered pretty quick. PLUS the US made bombing runs on Iraq & Afghanistan from Air Force bases in Missouri......fucking Missouri man! But I suppose all that is lost on you, America is always the bad guy in your eyes and that's all that matters.
Why Lausanne?Quote:
Originally Posted by VictorCharlie