Soldier butchered in street in Woolwich

[El Kabong]

however it's not going to last

List of countries by proven oil reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Countries - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

it's about securing 'future' oil reserves

OOOOOOH well yes of course


Couldn't the war be because Saddam repeatedly violated UN multiple sanctions? Nah, nah it's TOTALLY due to oil to which I might add is extremely fucking expensive so why the fuck would that be if we went to war for oil? Why wouldn't the oil be dirt cheap right now? Riddle me that Missy

[Howlin Mad Missy]

however it's not going to last

List of countries by proven oil reserves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Countries - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

it's about securing 'future' oil reserves

OOOOOOH well yes of course


Couldn't the war be because Saddam repeatedly violated UN multiple sanctions? Nah, nah it's TOTALLY due to oil to which I might add is extremely fucking expensive so why the fuck would that be if we went to war for oil? Why wouldn't the oil be dirt cheap right now? Riddle me that Missy

yet energy prices are going up hmmm

and you mean like the kind of UN violation that means Under the UN Charter, "there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful."

and of course the weapons the governments lied about to 'justify' a war.

But it's ok you carry on with the thread hijack

[El Kabong]

yet energy prices are going up hmmm

and you mean like the kind of UN violation that means Under the UN Charter, "there are only two circumstances in which the use of force is permissible: in collective or individual self-defense against an actual or imminent armed attack; and when the Security Council has directed or authorized use of force to maintain or restore international peace and security. Neither of those circumstances now exist. Absent one of them, U.S. use of force against Iraq is unlawful."

and of course the weapons the governments lied about to 'justify' a war.

But it's ok you carry on with the thread hijack

#1 The UN is impotent, if that's their view on war then I guess 0 of their sanctions have any teeth. "We as the UN tell you to do x, y, and z and if you don't........well we just won't like you very much Saddam!" GAY, that's fucking gay

#2 I didn't hijack anything, miles and Kirkland are the ones saying "Well this attack was kind of justified because of the War on Terror" then they brought up the whole "illegal war" bullshit and now all the sissies want to join in on talking about Iraq...where I merely stated that A) Its a horrible attack B ) some bystander should have done SOMETHING and C) if those bastards stay in jail forever they'll only make more people radicalized and I proved that by linking a story which you apparently passed right on by.

#3 Have fun with your muzzies, your country has appeased the radical ones for far too long

#4 Where did the WMD's from Iraq go
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9df_1369675224
Syria anyone
LiveLeak.com - Smoking Gun for Syria Gas Attack - We know who did it!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

[El Kabong]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

Islam isn't a race.....thought you should know

[Howlin Mad Missy]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

Islam isn't a race.....thought you should know

It's the same if someone was hating on Jews calling Muslims 'muzzies'

[Andre]

Oh now I know what muzzies are !
Had me stumped there for bit.

Oil is all about controlling the world price not supply. It is about barrels released and produced on demand as much as stockpiles.

The Middle east consortium via a few global companies (It had a real name,which I forget, but it was a number of countries who sought to join up to be in the controlling position of the world price).
They nearly got control at one point and were a mere vote away from a monopoly on it, its only that they fell apart in disagreement and lost some voters over our Israeli friends doing something or another at the time, that they fucked themselves up.
Usa saw this and have worked very nicely on a number of levels to halt them ever going up the same path and forming into another. A foothold over there is very useful.

[Andre]

Oh now I know what muzzies are !
Had me stumped there for bit.

Oil is all about controlling the world price not supply. It is about barrels released and produced on demand as much as stockpiles.

The Middle east consortium via a few global companies (It had a real name,which I forget, but it was a number of countries who sought to join up to be in the controlling position of the world price).
They nearly got control at one point and were a mere vote away from a monopoly on it, its only that they fell apart in disagreement and lost some voters over our Israeli friends doing something or another at the time, that they fucked themselves up.
Usa saw this and have worked very nicely on a number of levels to halt them ever going up the same path and forming into another. A foothold over there is very useful.

I couldnt find the thing I had read just yet on it; but this spells out why America is in the region in no uncertain terms.

American intervention in the Middle East

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This article has no lead section. Please help by adding an introductory section to this article. For more information, see the layout guide, and Wikipedia's lead section guidelines. (May 2011) This article provides an overview of American interventions in the Middle East executed between 1941 and before the Iranian Revolution in 1978-1979.
Contents

• 1 Background
• 2 Israel
• 3 Syria: 1949
• 4 Mosaddeq and the Shah
• 5 Egypt 1956: The Suez Crisis
• 6 The Six Day War and Black September
• 7 Afghanistan and Pakistan
• 8 See also
• 9 References
• 10 External links

Background

The United States’ relationship with the Middle East prior to the Second World War was minimal. Moreover, in comparison to European powers such as Britain and France which had managed to colonize almost all of the Middle East region after defeating the Ottoman Empire in 1918, the United States was ‘popular and respected throughout the Middle East’.[1] Indeed, ‘Americans were seen as good people, untainted by the selfishness and duplicity associated with the Europeans’.[2] American missionaries had brought modern medicine and set up educational institutions all over the Middle East. Moreover, the US had provided the Middle East with highly skilled petroleum engineers.[3] Thus, there were some connections made between the United States and the Middle East before the Second World War. Other examples of cooperations between the US and the Middle East are the Red Line Agreement signed in 1928 and the Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement signed in 1944. Both of these agreements were legally binding and reflected an American interest in control of Middle Eastern energy resources, namely oil, and moreover reflected an American ‘security imperative to prevent the (re)emergence of a powerful regional rival’.[4] The Red Line Agreement had been ‘part of a network of agreements made in the 1920s to restrict supply of petroleum and ensure that the major [mostly American] companies…could control oil prices on world markets’.[5] The Red Line agreement governed the development of Middle East oil for the next two decades. The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

Persian oil …is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it’s ours.[6]

[Kirkland Laing]

Oh now I know what muzzies are !
Had me stumped there for bit.

Oil is all about controlling the world price not supply. It is about barrels released and produced on demand as much as stockpiles.

The Middle east consortium via a few global companies (It had a real name,which I forget, but it was a number of countries who sought to join up to be in the controlling position of the world price).
They nearly got control at one point and were a mere vote away from a monopoly on it, its only that they fell apart in disagreement and lost some voters over our Israeli friends doing something or another at the time, that they fucked themselves up.
Usa saw this and have worked very nicely on a number of levels to halt them ever going up the same path and forming into another. A foothold over there is very useful.

It was mainly American companies who were controlling the oil market up till the mid seventies when the Atrabs started taking control/Iranian revolution happened and US control started to slip. Here's a brief history:

OPEC and Crude Oil

[bzkfn]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

That is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?

Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

That is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?

Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.

and Paki is?

[El Kabong]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

That is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?

Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.

and Paki is?

....also not a racial slur because it describes people from a certain country and not people of a certain race

[bzkfn]

muzzies - racist, just thought I'd point that one out.

That is not racist. It is a shortened term for muslims. If I meet someone called Robert, and I call him Robbie, does that mean I wish he was dead or that I hate him?

Stupid fucking world is so politically correct now they are frightened to offend anyone. They're just words people, get the fuck over it already.

and Paki is?

A word with an extremely ridiculous amount of power. Yeno if someone looked at me and called me a horrible ginger bastard, do you think I look at that guy and question if he hates ginger people? No, because I'm not so pathetic as to be overly sensitive about an adjective.