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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
I think Blackwell has suffered by his teams hate if Eubanks confidence. They were desperately hoping Nick could pull something out the bag.
Yes Lockett shares some of the blame because fat Mck was stood there screaming and shouting getting iver zealous sat listening to Saunders bullshit. He could also have pulled the fight earlier.
The thing was even Saunders and the Furys who were sat with Mick all said after the fight should have been stopped a couple of rounds earlier. Now Locketts and Hennesseys "brave" decision has left Blackwell in a coma and never fighting again.
I see some of the comments on here from no nothings and dread to think if they were trainers what state their fighters would get in. "Dont worry son hes blowing out his ass, your tough as nails get out there and give it to him, he cant punch dont worry about it".:rolleyes:
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
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ross
I think Blackwell has suffered by his teams hate if Eubanks confidence. They were desperately hoping Nick could pull something out the bag.
Yes Lockett shares some of the blame because fat Mck was stood there screaming and shouting getting iver zealous sat listening to Saunders bullshit. He could also have pulled the fight earlier.
The thing was even Saunders and the Furys who were sat with Mick all said after the fight should have been stopped a couple of rounds earlier. Now Locketts and Hennesseys "brave" decision has left Blackwell in a coma and never fighting again.
I see some of the comments on here from no nothings and dread to think if they were trainers what state their fighters would get in. "Dont worry son hes blowing out his ass, your tough as nails get out there and give it to him, he cant punch dont worry about it".:rolleyes:
Firstly it should read "KNOW nothing's". Learn to write and spell properly , and not like a 4 year old and people might take you a bit more seriously.
Secondly, Gary Lockett has forgotten more than you'll ever know about boxing and he made the call for Blackwell to continue. It's very unfortunate and very sad, but I think we should leave them to deal with it.
Lockett is probably at Blackwell's bedside as we speak, but it's easy for you to have a pop at him while you tuck in to your Sunday roast.
Still, I don't suppose Lockett has had the experience of being told he wasn't needed as a trainer, decided to go judging and have to jack that in because he bottled it when confronted by some people for his clueless decisions.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: as you can see, this isn't from my phone, so I can send you back some emojis . :rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
Any NEWS on Blackwell I hope he is OKAY can't find any news on line how he is.?
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
Shit just found out he has a bleed on the brain and is in a induced coma , my heart goes out to the guy
may he make a full recovery.:(
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
Blackwell showed heart , but getting iced by a big puncher is sometimes the less damaging way to go , than to take a prolonged beating from a solid puncher.
Hope he makes a recovery soon.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
If Chris Eubank Jr could punch, he'd be nuclear.
He's got good skills, but he does take too many chances sometimes & takes unnecessary shots.
He's also got that annoying habit that his father had of standing back & admiring his handy work too.
He needs to sort these things out.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
To be fair to Eubank hes not fighting top world class fighters at the moment and probably feels like he can take chances because he knows he can hold a shot. I think he will box more carefull against the better fighters. Jacobs will be perfect for Eubank.
Hes an animal and bludgeoned Chudinov till the ref took pitty on him, OSullivans corner had the sense to pull him out or he would have ended up like Blackwell too.
He does have breathers but be fair, he takes it easy in portions of the fight because the opponent allows him, if he was forced to fight he could. His fitness is amazing. When he opens up he does to try and stop the opponent and throws everything! So much so everyone assumes he must have blown himself out but no, he does it again!
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
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ross
To be fair to Eubank hes not fighting top world class fighters at the moment and probably feels like he can take chances because he knows he can hold a shot. I think he will box more carefull against the better fighters. Jacobs will be perfect for Eubank.
Hes an animal and bludgeoned Chudinov till the ref took pitty on him, OSullivans corner had the sense to pull him out or he would have ended up like Blackwell too.
He does have breathers but be fair, he takes it easy in portions of the fight because the opponent allows him, if he was forced to fight he could. His fitness is amazing. When he opens up he does to try and stop the opponent and throws everything! So much so everyone assumes he must have blown himself out but no, he does it again!
I think his "weaknesses" or "flaws" add to his PPV potential. He is great to watch. We took more money and bets on his fight last night then the whole Sky card combined showing he has massive selling potential.
I dont think his bad habits are a case of him knowing he can get away with them against the level of opposition he is facing and could be his down fall when stepping up. Jacobs v Eubank is a fight that needs to get made. Jacobs will certainly test Eubanks chin.
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"Jacobs v Eubank is a fight that needs to get made."
Assuming Eubank wants it. After all, he could've fought him last night. He CHOSE not to fight Jacobs, let's not forget that.
Jacobs ko'd Quillin in the 1st round last time out. I know Quillin's career hasn't gone how it should've and I don't like his lack of professionalism, but has Eubank beaten anybody in his league? Now, is he still "made for Eubank"?
Ps. Ross , you're a twat. When you haven't got a reasonable answer or have been found out, you come out with the "pathetic" line.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
Carry on arguing about nothing with yourself Primo. Everyone gets fed up of it.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
What Eubank said in 35:30 in the video below is interesting pre-fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSuRjyDTbmw
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
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Primo Carnera
"Jacobs v Eubank is a fight that needs to get made."
Assuming Eubank wants it. After all, he could've fought him last night. He CHOSE not to fight Jacobs, let's not forget that.
Jacobs ko'd Quillin in the 1st round last time out. I know Quillin's career hasn't gone how it should've and I don't like his lack of professionalism, but has Eubank beaten anybody in his league? Now, is he still "made for Eubank"?
Ps. Ross , you're a twat. When you haven't got a reasonable answer or have been found out, you come out with the "pathetic" line.
How should his career have gone? Continued ducking top opposition to maintain his "0"? Quillin never beat anyone in Eubanks class either I would say yet a lot of people seemed to think he was better than Golovkin.
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Primo Carnera
"Jacobs v Eubank is a fight that needs to get made."
Assuming Eubank wants it. After all, he could've fought him last night. He CHOSE not to fight Jacobs, let's not forget tha.
Jacobs ko'd Quillin in the 1st round last time out. I know Quillin's career hasn't gone how it should've and I don't like his lack of professionalism, but has Eubank beaten anybody in his league? Now, is he still "made for Eubank"?
Ps. Ross , you're a twat. When you haven't got a reasonable answer or have been found out, you come out with the "pathetic" line.
How should his career have gone? Continued ducking top opposition to maintain his "0"? Quillin never beat anyone in Eubanks class either I would say yet a lot of people seemed to think he was better than Golovkin.
Quillin should've taken his career more seriously. Promotional disputes, coming in for a World Title fight overweight etc.
and your comparing Quillin with Eubank, I was comparing Jacobs and he ko'd Quillin in 1. By your line of reasoning , who have the guys that Eubank has beaten actually beaten themselves? If we carry on like that, isn't it getting ridiculous?
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Regarding the comparrisons with Golovkin.
Had it been Golovkin in with Blackwell and Eubank in with Murray would the results have been much different as to what happened to Blackwell and Murray?
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ross
Regarding the comparrisons with Golovkin.
Had it been Golovkin in with Blackwell and Eubank in with Murray would the results have been much different as to what happened to Blackwell and Murray?
Murray did well against GGG considering he was hurt and put down early by Golovkin.
Murray would have tested Eubank if he stayed at middleweight. That would have been a good fight and test for Junior.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
I don't think the fight should have been stopped. It's easy to be wise in hindsight. But Eubank though he landed some heavy shots. He was never badly rocked Blackwell, never knocked him down, sure he had him against the ropes, but he was sloppy with his work, and tried to con the ref into a stoppage, by doing that Joe Calzaghe thing of throwing loads of half arsed punches and hoping the ref will step in.
I pray for Blackwell, an induced coma ? In that case there is a chance he could die. There is a chance he could wake up and be like Michael Watson or Gerald McClellan. There is also the chance that he could make a full recovery but there is no chance we will see him in a ring again that's for sure.
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Re: Nick Blackwell vs Chris Eubank Jnr
Yes and Eubank did that with the punches that werent hurting Blackwell. Go figure!:rolleyes:
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ross
Yes and Eubank did that with the punches that werent hurting Blackwell. Go figure!:rolleyes:
I never said Chris Eubank Jnr did not hurt Nick Blackwell. I'm saying Chris Eubank Jnr never badly rocked Nick Blackwell because as soon as Chris Eubank Jnr hurt Nick Blackwell. Nick Blackwell came firing right back, plus Nick Blackwell looked strong throughout the fight. Nick Blackwell's body posture and demeanour was that of a strong fight who was still in the fight. That's why I think the ref was reluctant to stop the fight, that and Chris Eubank Jnr attempts to end the fight were sloppy punches.
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Isn't it funny , and by the way I wish Nick a full recovery , however Joshua KOS brutally Whyte , but its regarded by some as just a British standard fighter.
However Eubank Jr has now failed to win by brutal KO in 2 back to back british standard fights , however he is world class ?
Nothing like double standards.
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ross
Yes and Eubank did that with the punches that werent hurting Blackwell. Go figure!:rolleyes:
Let it go
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ross
Let what go? Ignorance?
No, being wise after the event.
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Its not being wise after the event, before anyone knew how bad Blackwell was plenty at ringside were saying it should have been stopped earlier.
Normally when a ref sees a fighters head snap back they stop the action and give an 8 count. How many times did we see Blackwells head violently snapp up and back from uppercuts? Sometimes 3 times in quick succession.
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ross
Let what go? Ignorance?
No, being wise after the event.
Plenty in the crowd said it should have been stopped earlier , thousands didn't say that but why look at both sides of the argument huh Master ?
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Who the hell wants to be a referee you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't,! we have all
called refs fit to burn stopping a fight or not.
The corner has to take blame for not showing compassion for there fighter, I always say sooner is better
than later remember Blackwell traded on his toughness and he would fight till he dropped.
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Master
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ross
Let what go? Ignorance?
No, being wise after the event.
Plenty in the crowd said it should have been stopped earlier , thousands didn't say that but why look at both sides of the argument huh Master ?
And guess who was right?
Those in attendance and know what they are looking at or the people at home whove never taken a punch in their lives?:rolleyes:
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I wonder what Pascal Collins and O Sullivan make of it.
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ross
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Dark Lord Al
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Master
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Originally Posted by
ross
Let what go? Ignorance?
No, being wise after the event.
Plenty in the crowd said it should have been stopped earlier , thousands didn't say that but why look at both sides of the argument huh Master ?
And guess who was right?
Those in attendance and know what they are looking at or the people at home whove never taken a punch in their lives?:rolleyes:
Yep, and there are some guys who were never capable of becoming a ref, so had to become judges and feel they can criticise one of the best refs Britain has ever produced. Glass houses and all that! 😏
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ross
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Dark Lord Al
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Master
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Originally Posted by
ross
Let what go? Ignorance?
No, being wise after the event.
Plenty in the crowd said it should have been stopped earlier , thousands didn't say that but why look at both sides of the argument huh Master ?
And guess who was right?
Those in attendance and know what they are looking at or the people at home whove never taken a punch in their lives?:rolleyes:
Wait a minute, I'm one of those who was at home and have never took a punch in my life...am I not entitled to an opinion? Does that mean I don't have a clue what I'm talking about?
Well fuck me I might have to take up tiddlywinks or something, I never knew that boxing was such an exclusive sport.
I've watched hundreds of hours of boxing, I've studied fighters and closely followed their career but you think that just because someone has never got in the ring themselves they have no knowledge of the sport, that is quite frankly a ridiculous statement.
I've never played top flight football but I know what the offside rule is, I've never rode a horse but I can still pick a bet, I've never played snooker at the crucible but I know how many points are needed to win a frame and can tell a good shot when I see one.
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Wipe those tears batman, im not belittling anyone just pointing out the obvious that yeah, many sofa sports fans and keyboard warriors may think the fight was quite right to be left to carry on but the opinion of every person interviewed ringside (bar his own team and the ref), mostly people who had had an involvement in the sport was that it should have been stopped earlier.
Who was right batman?
Your welcome to an opinion as everyone is just be prepared for it to be wrong.
You may well like to have opinions on football but the object of that game is not to punch the opponent in the head and render them unconscious. Some times its best to listen to the professionals opinions.
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No tears here friend, I just think the whole 'never been in the ring, no knowledge ' is annoying
I actually thought the fight should have been stopped, I wouldn't question anyone who thinks differently though
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ross
Wipe those tears batman, im not belittling anyone just pointing out the obvious that yeah, many sofa sports fans and keyboard warriors may think the fight was quite right to be left to carry on but the opinion of every person interviewed ringside (bar his own team and the ref), mostly people who had had an involvement in the sport was that it should have been stopped earlier.
Who was right batman?
Your welcome to an opinion as everyone is just be prepared for it to be wrong.
You may well like to have opinions on football but the object of that game is not to punch the opponent in the head and render them unconscious. Some times its best to listen to the professionals opinions.
You have no idea about all the other posters and what their involvement in boxing is. Just because you assume something does not make it so. There are many here involved in boxing at all levels and connected in many ways that you have no idea of. So your opinion is just that, an opinion, no more or less worthy than that of anyone else. Who are these professionals opinions we should be listening to ? Just those supporting your argument ? Surely you don't class yourself as a pro ? Should we listen to JR who wishes that Blackwell makes "a quick recovery and a speedy return 2 the ring" . What a stupid thing to say.
Lets hope Blackwell gets through this relatively unscathed and with his faculties and abilities in tact, but his time in the ring has gone. He is obviously a brave fighter and that will stand him in good stead in the days, months and years ahead.
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My son has boxed from a early age I have trained him and spared with him, I have been hit to the head
a few time causing my leg's to do the hoke e coke e, he's a big lad and can punch I was hit relativity light.
and he was playing with me.
Eubank and Blackwell were not taking it easy on each other, they were trying to hurt each out and that
is boxing lads it's a hurt game this sport is extremely hard and unforgiving.
When we want blood sometimes a price has to be paid it can be a high price, Nick Blackwell paid a high
price lads, but remember nobody forced them to fight they fight of there own free will, boxing will never
be totally safe lads.!
Sad facts being punched to the head is not good for you, lets just wish Nick makes a swift recovery.
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Greenbeanz
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ross
Wipe those tears batman, im not belittling anyone just pointing out the obvious that yeah, many sofa sports fans and keyboard warriors may think the fight was quite right to be left to carry on but the opinion of every person interviewed ringside (bar his own team and the ref), mostly people who had had an involvement in the sport was that it should have been stopped earlier.
Who was right batman?
Your welcome to an opinion as everyone is just be prepared for it to be wrong.
You may well like to have opinions on football but the object of that game is not to punch the opponent in the head and render them unconscious. Some times its best to listen to the professionals opinions.
You have no idea about all the other posters and what their involvement in boxing is. Just because you assume something does not make it so. There are many here involved in boxing at all levels and connected in many ways that you have no idea of. So your opinion is just that, an opinion, no more or less worthy than that of anyone else. Who are these professionals opinions we should be listening to ? Just those supporting your argument ? Surely you don't class yourself as a pro ? Should we listen to JR who wishes that Blackwell makes
"a quick recovery and a speedy return 2 the ring" . What a stupid thing to say.
Lets hope Blackwell gets through this relatively unscathed and with his faculties and abilities in tact, but his time in the ring has gone. He is obviously a brave fighter and that will stand him in good stead in the days, months and years ahead.
The question about who has boxed has been asked on here before and very few have. The ones arguing with me havent. They are entitled to an opinion but the opinion that the fight was fine to let carry on to the stage it did is obviously wrong! Some think its fine to see a fighters head get jolted over and ober with no hope of winning.
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Dark Lord Al
Isn't it funny , and by the way I wish Nick a full recovery , however Joshua KOS brutally Whyte , but its regarded by some as just a British standard fighter.
However Eubank Jr has now failed to win by brutal KO in 2 back to back british standard fights , however he is world class ?
Nothing like double standards.
Nicely put Al. Whats Ross' response?
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Silkeyjoe
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Originally Posted by
Dark Lord Al
Isn't it funny , and by the way I wish Nick a full recovery , however Joshua KOS brutally Whyte , but its regarded by some as just a British standard fighter.
However Eubank Jr has now failed to win by brutal KO in 2 back to back british standard fights , however he is world class ?
Nothing like double standards.
Nicely put Al. Whats Ross' response?
No response from what I've seen. Reason? He hasn't got a response. He's happy to talk shit about all sorts of other things he knows nothing about but chooses to gloss over and ignore when he doesn't
have an answer.
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I would like to ask a question to all those people who have laid blame for Saturday night on the trainer, promoter, referee etc.
After the fight was stopped, and Blackwell was stood talking to Eubank Sr., how many of you thought "he's going to be in trouble here, he's going to end up in Hospital in a coma?"
Yeah, thought as much. At times like this everyone brings up the McLennan tragedy.
It is believed that the Blow that did the damage in that fight was as early as the 2nd or 3rd round, yet he went on for a few rounds more.
The ref and trainer are not doctors and don't have a scanner with them. They can't say "oh wait , that's the blow, better stop the fight!"
Still , easier to sit in your armchair and slag people off isn't it? That'll fix everything.