White Nationalists and the alt right. Racist as fuck is no better than woke as fuck

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is like many beliefs , fictional and subjective. It is not a race.

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Islamophobia is of course a racism. It is just hidden good old fashioned xenophobic racism. Look at the amount of Sikh's, Hindus etc worldwide beaten up, murdered or threatened because the bigots carrying out these attacks just assumed they were Muslims. What does that tell you about people who are Islamophobic? These people looked enough like Muslims for Bigots in their uneducated barbarity to treat them like some kind of enemy.

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And the genocide of Christians in the Middle East by Islam, does that make them Christian phobics or is that something else @Beanz

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is like many beliefs , fictional and subjective. It is not a race.

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Islamophobia is of course a racism. It is just hidden good old fashioned xenophobic racism. Look at the amount of Sikh's, Hindus etc worldwide beaten up, murdered or threatened because the bigots carrying out these attacks just assumed they were Muslims. What does that tell you about people who are Islamophobic? These people looked enough like Muslims for Bigots in their uneducated barbarity to treat them like some kind of enemy.

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You can be white or black and be muslim , it is a belief not a race. It is not racism.
Also I don't like the word islamophobic , a phobia is a fear I do not fear it I just do not accept it in the civilised world.
It contradicts to many things that people have fought for , womens rights etc.
It just does not blend with western world.
I personally don't think any religion should have any influence on the running of a country as its all bollocks. Believe what you like but Its crazy to be brainwashed by it.
islam is a way of life a belief it has nothing to do with race or colour , and you cant deny that is contradicts many of the ways of life and traditions in Britain.

What should the Western world be, Al?

I ask that question because I am not sure what the traditions and customs of Britain really mean. You mean things like the monarchy, a habit of occupying large swathes of the world, financialisation, workhouses, food banks, a class system, knighthoods, hoodlums on street corners etc? Sure it is better than Isis, but where did Isis come from? The wars started by the same lot that gave you all the previously mentioned things brought that about. Politicians of the UK and the pig at the trough system that goes with it. Traditions and customs is something people are more than awake to. There should be a referendum on the monarchy and there would be a decent shot at getting rid of them.

"Islamaphobia" is a silly word made up by lefty useful idiots to stop people from pointing out what a stone age barbaric culture it cultivates.....I guess if I'm not partial to things like revenge rapes or honor killings or stoning rape victims to death that makes me "Islamaphobic".

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is like many beliefs , fictional and subjective. It is not a race.

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Islamophobia is of course a racism. It is just hidden good old fashioned xenophobic racism. Look at the amount of Sikh's, Hindus etc worldwide beaten up, murdered or threatened because the bigots carrying out these attacks just assumed they were Muslims. What does that tell you about people who are Islamophobic? These people looked enough like Muslims for Bigots in their uneducated barbarity to treat them like some kind of enemy.

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And the genocide of Christians in the Middle East by Islam, does that make them Christian phobics or is that something else @Beanz

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Genocide is not a good look for anyone which is why by far the majority of Muslims worldwide would condemn it. I get that you, like a lot of White Christians, are in Denial about reality, but Muslims make up about 1% of America as opposed to 83% Christians. That still apparently is way too much for most of you and so some are are now starting to label it as an invasion. Way more muslims are killed worldwide by extremists but it's easier to pretend that minority represents them so that you can dismiss them all.

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is like many beliefs , fictional and subjective. It is not a race.

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Islamophobia is of course a racism. It is just hidden good old fashioned xenophobic racism. Look at the amount of Sikh's, Hindus etc worldwide beaten up, murdered or threatened because the bigots carrying out these attacks just assumed they were Muslims. What does that tell you about people who are Islamophobic? These people looked enough like Muslims for Bigots in their uneducated barbarity to treat them like some kind of enemy.

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You can be white or black and be muslim , it is a belief not a race. It is not racism.
Also I don't like the word islamophobic , a phobia is a fear I do not fear it I just do not accept it in the civilised world.
It contradicts to many things that people have fought for , womens rights etc.
It just does not blend with western world.
I personally don't think any religion should have any influence on the running of a country as its all bollocks. Believe what you like but Its crazy to be brainwashed by it.
islam is a way of life a belief it has nothing to do with race or colour , and you cant deny that is contradicts many of the ways of life and traditions in Britain.

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I know you would not like to see yourself as being racist but when you make statements like "judging from the pictures more feral vermin" then it is difficult for people to see you as anything but. By far the majority of Muslims are not white so you can't start using an anomaly to distinguish one form of xenophobia from another. I know you are not a fascist, but it is like Lyle pretending that Tommy Robinson and the Britain first crew are somehow harmless patriots, when they just last week broadcast on far right European radio stations just after excerpts from Mein Kamp. There are plenty of civilized Muslims, and in fact were it not for them, we would not enjoy many of the advances that we have. You are not seriously telling me that surgeons and scientists, theoretical physicists etc that happen to be both British and Muslim People do not belong on the civilized world? People are people and they will often use anything as an excuse to act like thugs, be that religion or the denial of it.

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islam is, or will become a problem to all non muslims in the uk .

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islam is like many beliefs , fictional and subjective. It is not a race.

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Islamophobia is of course a racism. It is just hidden good old fashioned xenophobic racism. Look at the amount of Sikh's, Hindus etc worldwide beaten up, murdered or threatened because the bigots carrying out these attacks just assumed they were Muslims. What does that tell you about people who are Islamophobic? These people looked enough like Muslims for Bigots in their uneducated barbarity to treat them like some kind of enemy.

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Problem is when any criticism of islam gets you accused of being "islamophobic" it makes the label seem redundant (like the Nazi thing). Without doubt your "paki" hating friends will hide behind the religion thing, however - Nawaz, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Murray, Hitchens, Dawkins, Harris, etc have all been accused of being "islamophobes" in the mainstream.

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That is a brilliant point. It proves that people will often use labels and language to answer difficult questions. It is why far right people will refuse to be seen as racist, citing "black friends" and the right kind of Immigrant or Muslim as an excuse to not face up to their own prejudices. Just as putting people on ignore using Islamophobia, as a blanket statement to try and shut down debate, does not invalidate actual incidents of Islamophobia, it is also true that hating aspects of a religion (or bizarre traditional and superstitious customs pretending to be religious) or hate crimes carries out in the name of religion is not xenophobia.

It is exemplified in this thread where the culture here is so biased to the far right, that even to suggest their might be racists courted by the far right in America is immediately met by hostility, denial and an attempt to shut it down. Beanz shouldn't talk about America, There is no such thing as Islamophobia, Putting people on ignore What about the Christian victims, are all just ways of avoiding engaging with the subject.

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"Islamaphobia" is a silly word made up by lefty useful idiots to stop people from pointing out what a stone age barbaric culture it cultivates.....I guess if I'm not partial to things like revenge rapes or honor killings or stoning rape victims to death that makes me "Islamaphobic".

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You are again just hiding behind a useful way of disguising your xenophobia. It is what you do in all your threads. I get that it is not only acceptable but also the mainstream in America now. So you have a president who courts people like Richard Spencer, a racist fuckwit, who also does not believe women should not be given the vote, and a vice president that wants the law to tell women what they can do with their bodies, and to outlaw homosexuality. We get it. You have the reigns of power now and you are going to use it to try and defend the rights of anyone but minorities.


Now to answer your points. I notice that you are now spreading the lie that I will not enter into debate or answer any of your questions. That has never been true. Even when i first joined i offered to debate Bilbo in real time, live just to prove my willingness to engage. What you seem to be mixing up is your strict and very simple formalised version of debate where the whole thing is one sided and reductive . I understand this might be the form you are used to and the breaking down into numbered bullet points might make things easier for you, but we are not here to hold your hand so you will have to learn to be more flexible. Treat it as a form of mental yoga.


All words are silly and made up. They were not written by God whatever the Bible, Talmud, Qua ran tells you. Islamo or Islamaphobia exists not as a way to stop you pointing out hypocrites but as a way to define people who have a prejudice or hostility towards Muslims often born out of fear and ignorance. It is not something exclusively used by people who vote differently to you, although you seem oddly to be constantly offended by the fact that someone would dare vote in such a way, even in your republic.

Revenge rapes, in fact rape of any kind is explicitly forbidden in Islamic law and virtually all secular laws the world over. That is why even in places like Pakistan the perpetrators are arrested. It is completely unislamic to ever punish the victim. The same with honor killings and the stoning of victims.


It is usually the fault of men that women are raped. The men that do it and the men that perpetrate a society in which it is allowed to carry on. This is both a Jewish and Islamic idea the thought that it is incumbent on all men to stop these kind of things. So you start by teaching your sons to respect women. (Unlike Christians Muslims do not believe women were created from Adam's rib and Jews do not believe Eve was the mother of sin, so women are though of as equal.) Those men that use religion as an excuse to abuse and even kill women are even more despicable than those who do not try and blame others.


So no there is nothing Islamophobic about you finding Honor killings or stoning of rape victims repugnant.

What is "Islamophobic" (and nobody should be hung up on words) is neglecting to ever mention Muslim officials in places like Pakistan giving the death penalty to rapists, using the extreme vile actions of extremists to define all Muslims and mocking any attempt to even discuss anything but negative Muslim stereotypes which you churn out after every atrocity.

It is your MO. You do the same with feminism, any politics but your own, academia, Environmental concerns, Police brutality, Black rights,...the list goes on.

Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
I have clearly stated my problem is with islam not race , if your liberal self cant see that then fuck off and change the record.

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
I have clearly stated my problem is with islam not race , if your liberal self cant see that then fuck off and change the record.

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
I have clearly stated my problem is with islam not race , if your liberal self cant see that then fuck off and change the record.

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Beanz thread is no different to Lyle's. No one is judging you or telling you what to think. These are opinions.

If you can not see that then do not participate in this thread.

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
I have clearly stated my problem is with islam not race , if your liberal self cant see that then fuck off and change the record.

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Beanz thread is no different to Lyle's. No one is judging you or telling you what to think. These are opinions.

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
I have clearly stated my problem is with islam not race , if your liberal self cant see that then fuck off and change the record.

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Beanz thread is no different to Lyle's. No one is judging you or telling you what to think. These are opinions.

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Actually it's QUITE different from what I've seen. I post examples of people being "woke" and it's real life examples and I mock them because what they are doing is asinine and moves us backwards rather than forwards. Beanz just stated the title and then was like ....

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....typical Beanz posts, hurls accusations at everyone and then "Come at me bro!" ....I don't do that, I post a "wokeness" article and then either make fun of that alone or just wait for someone to defend it because they too are on the left.



Yuge difference, YUUUUUGE

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
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Beanz thread is no different to Lyle's. No one is judging you or telling you what to think. These are opinions.

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Actually it is very different to Lyle's. Lyle's threads like most of his threads is a scatter gun attack on anybody not like him. So Black, LGBT, People of Colour, Special Interest Groups, Women anyone that he does to identify as. He does not deal with specifics or debatable conundrums, only tittle tattle and throwaway stupid vacuous celebrity tweets like his President. It is not an invitation to debate and discuss anything, which is why you will note he has as usual refused to engage here. His thread is mainly him howling at the treatment of White men. The pathetic thing about Lyle though is how low, shameless and cheap he is. The fact that he pretends to debate, and then when you don't give him the answer he wants, pretends you have not even engaged with him. The most despicable thing about his refusal to accept my, and most normal people's definition of a Nazi though, is how much more eager he was to defend their rights and to be offended, when like Robinson and the Britain first cunts, he has been capitalizing on things like terror attacks on British soil all year.

That is the ironic thing about the Woke as fuck thread and most of his bollocks. They are just whining judgmental click bait posts made to show how much better he is than anyone else.

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Beanz seriously I'm pretty sick of you judging me and telling me what I think and feel .
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Beanz thread is no different to Lyle's. No one is judging you or telling you what to think. These are opinions.

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Actually it's QUITE different from what I've seen. I post examples of people being "woke" and it's real life examples and I mock them because what they are doing is asinine and moves us backwards rather than forwards. Beanz just stated the title and then was like ....

https://media.tenor.com/images/b3b71...6420/tenor.gif



....typical Beanz posts, hurls accusations at everyone and then "Come at me bro!" ....I don't do that, I post a "wokeness" article and then either make fun of that alone or just wait for someone to defend it because they too are on the left.



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Bullshit you defended things like "Feminism is cancer" actually castigating me for finding it offensive and frivolous. You obviously refused to read the article or any of my posts here, because you have me on ignore. You are still like a fucking boy scout Lyle, defending fucking Nazis and then getting pissed off with asinine tweets that none of us even knew existed, until you post them, EVERY DAY.

You are an intellectual coward. Nobody bothers defending half the shit you post because they don't agree wherever they are on the political spectrum. You on the other hand expect everyone to jump to the defense of fucking jack booted racists and cunts like Milo you fool. You are a snowflake without the bottle to get out from behind your keyboard to protest.

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Bullshit you defended things like "Feminism is cancer" actually castigating me for finding it offensive and frivolous. You obviously refused to read the article or any of my posts here, because you have me on ignore. You are still like a fucking boy scout Lyle, defending fucking Nazis and then getting pissed off with asinine tweets that none of us even knew existed, until you post them, EVERY DAY.

You are an intellectual coward. Nobody bothers defending half the shit you post because they don't agree wherever they are on the political spectrum. You on the other hand expect everyone to jump to the defense of fucking jack booted racists and cunts like Milo you fool. You are a snowflake without the bottle to get out from behind your keyboard to protest.

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Well today's "Feminism" IS cancer, it's fucking horrible, and you wouldn't fucking know because you take it on the surface "Oh Feminism means equality"...yeah maybe in 1955 it did, but right now Feminism is not just pro-woman it's very much ANTI-man....and I'm sorry maybe YOU are anti man, maybe YOU want to take all things male and throw them on the trash heap of history, but I believe there are quite a few good things that men provide society.


I defend free speech and yes I defend some very vile stuff as does the ACLU, speech that is protected is not just speech I agree with most often times it is speech I vehemently disagree with. What part about that are you refusing to understand? Mahmoud Ahmadinijad was allowed to speak at Columbia University, any number of evil dictators are allowed to speak at the UN headquarters in New York City.....yeah they should be allowed to speak even if they are horrible evil people, do you not agree? I mean nobody is forcing you to listen. Where do you draw the line?


What do I have to protest? I have the right to, but just because I have the right doesn't mean I HAVE to use it every single day. I'm quite content with my life at the moment, I'd rather focus my attention to other things....is that ok your highness?

Yeah I get it. You have more important things like.... the Internet. Fucking loser.

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Bullshit you defended things like "Feminism is cancer" actually castigating me for finding it offensive and frivolous. You obviously refused to read the article or any of my posts here, because you have me on ignore. You are still like a fucking boy scout Lyle, defending fucking Nazis and then getting pissed off with asinine tweets that none of us even knew existed, until you post them, EVERY DAY.

You are an intellectual coward. Nobody bothers defending half the shit you post because they don't agree wherever they are on the political spectrum. You on the other hand expect everyone to jump to the defense of fucking jack booted racists and cunts like Milo you fool. You are a snowflake without the bottle to get out from behind your keyboard to protest.

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Well today's "Feminism" IS cancer, it's fucking horrible, and you wouldn't fucking know because you take it on the surface "Oh Feminism means equality"...yeah maybe in 1955 it did, but right now Feminism is not just pro-woman it's very much ANTI-man....and I'm sorry maybe YOU are anti man, maybe YOU want to take all things male and throw them on the trash heap of history, but I believe there are quite a few good things that men provide society.


I defend free speech and yes I defend some very vile stuff as does the ACLU, speech that is protected is not just speech I agree with most often times it is speech I vehemently disagree with. What part about that are you refusing to understand? Mahmoud Ahmadinijad was allowed to speak at Columbia University, any number of evil dictators are allowed to speak at the UN headquarters in New York City.....yeah they should be allowed to speak even if they are horrible evil people, do you not agree? I mean nobody is forcing you to listen. Where do you draw the line?


What do I have to protest? I have the right to, but just because I have the right doesn't mean I HAVE to use it every single day. I'm quite content with my life at the moment, I'd rather focus my attention to other things....is that ok your highness?

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Well today's "Feminism" IS cancer, it's fucking horrible, and you wouldn't fucking know because you take it on the surface "Oh Feminism means equality"...yeah maybe in 1955 it did, but right now Feminism is not just pro-woman it's very much ANTI-man....and I'm sorry maybe YOU are anti man, maybe YOU want to take all things male and throw them on the trash heap of history, but I believe there are quite a few good things that men provide society.

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What the fucking hell is that supposed to mean? You sound like an arrogant little boy? I consider myself a feminist, my daughter would consider herself a feminist as would her mother. All 5 of my sisters would consider themselves to be feminists and I would hope my granddaughter would grown up and choose to be a feminist, and stay away from backward cunts like you. I support local and feminist organisations usually cover their events without a charge. Most of the female boxers i know would consider themselves feminists, as does my sister in law and most of the women in her MMA classes. You just assume everyone is like you. We are not and just because you are ultra conservative and spend your life fretting over people not agreeing with you, you will one day grow up and realise it is a wide world out there and not everyone is like you. You are such a know it all pretentious prick and your attitude and politics stink. If you think all women problems were solved in 1955 then you are a part of the problem.

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Well today's "Feminism" IS cancer, it's fucking horrible, and you wouldn't fucking know because you take it on the surface "Oh Feminism means equality"...yeah maybe in 1955 it did, but right now Feminism is not just pro-woman it's very much ANTI-man....and I'm sorry maybe YOU are anti man, maybe YOU want to take all things male and throw them on the trash heap of history, but I believe there are quite a few good things that men provide society.

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What the fucking hell is that supposed to mean? You sound like an arrogant little boy? I consider myself a feminist, my daughter would consider herself a feminist as would her mother. All 5 of my sisters would consider themselves to be feminists and I would hope my granddaughter would grown up and choose to be a feminist, and stay away from backward cunts like you. I support local and feminist organisations usually cover their events without a charge. Most of the female boxers i know would consider themselves feminists, as does my sister in law and most of the women in her MMA classes. You just assume everyone is like you. We are not and just because you are ultra conservative and spend your life fretting over people not agreeing with you, you will one day grow up and realise it is a wide world out there and not everyone is like you. You are such a know it all pretentious prick and your attitude and politics stink. If you think all women problems were solved in 1955 then you are a part of the problem.

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Well it's humorous to me that you rant like that Beanz, I mean it REALLY is.


What is Feminism focused on right now? What is the cause du jour of Feminism? Hmmm It's simple as that really to show the absolute disconnect between Western Feminism and what is going on in the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJkFQohIKNI


Mukhtar Mai ....SURVIVOR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukht%...C4%81%27%C4%AB




Where are YOU Mr. White Knight? What are you fucking doing other than getting on ME for posting such things? You are angry at me for merely bringing these things up and you think you're fucking helping women.



I'm sorry that I believe in actual equal rights and not your fucking petty ass first world problems.

Ironic , a muslim commits a terrorist act and the liberals say " not all muslims are terrorists ".
Which of course is true.

But if you are white and you happen to care about your national identity , then you are a skin head far right nut job WHITE NATIONALIST.

Well I can trace my heritage back over hundreds of years , deep rooted in England . So I care about my country England.

How many of us can say that ?

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Ironic , a muslim commits a terrorist act and the liberals say " not all muslims are terrorists ".
Which of course is true.

But if you are white and you happen to care about your national identity , then you are a skin head far right nut job WHITE NATIONALIST.

Well I can trace my heritage back over hundreds of years , deep rooted in England . So I care about my country England.

How many of us can say that ?

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I am just as patriotic as you although you may not trace my ancestors to England as yours. Although you may have some viking, Roman or French in you.

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Ironic , a muslim commits a terrorist act and the liberals say " not all muslims are terrorists ".
Which of course is true.

But if you are white and you happen to care about your national identity , then you are a skin head far right nut job WHITE NATIONALIST.

Well I can trace my heritage back over hundreds of years , deep rooted in England . So I care about my country England.

How many of us can say that ?

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Sorry to burst your bubble but all you are doing is boasting about being an immigrant. Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Belgians, Vikings,Normans are all immigrant minorities compared to the original settlers on this island who were the Basques . Yes the Cornish and Welsh are the oldest and most ancient settlers of this land now called England by the immigrant invaders. St George as you know was a foreigner most likely from Palestine or Turkey and also the patron saint of Aragon, Bavaria, Catalonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Germany and Greece; and of Moscow, Istanbul, Genoa and Venice .

I was a skinhead and so can understand how frustrating it is to be labelled by just the way you look. Nobody is calling you a far right nut job white nationalist here, but here you are questioning how many people here care about their country? I have always been proud to be English. I have always been annoyed by the bollocks that idiots post about Anglo Saxons when they are such a tiny insignificant part of the English Story. The Flag which I have no problem with wearing on an England football shirt or the Mrs hanging out of the car or across our windows when there is a Euro or world cup on is actually more of a religious thing, with the red cross going back for eons and representing the Christian (and crusading )part that you would call superstitious nonsense.

It always makes me laugh that Miles and Brockton who have always been the first to go on about Immigrants and strict border control, used to castigate me for the stupidity of patriotism in the past or taking pride in the history and traditions of the country you were born in. My mothers family goes back generations here and even my old man was born here so I am as proud of being English as I am of everything else that make sup my ancestry. Having Jewish, Irish, Polish and Romany on my fathers side is actual about as English as you can get. We are a nation of mongrels and there in lies our adaptability and tenacity.

Do you think that these "migrants" will not only assimilate but be in mixed ethnic (let alone race) relationships? There's quite a few marrying their first cousins....doesn't bode well I'd say.

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Take a second....I'm talking about TODAY's migrants, the ones you're so pissy eyed about

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Take a second....I'm talking about TODAY's migrants, the ones you're so pissy eyed about

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I quoted and was replying to AL. Lyle you are an idiot

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Well today's "Feminism" IS cancer, it's fucking horrible, and you wouldn't fucking know because you take it on the surface "Oh Feminism means equality"...yeah maybe in 1955 it did, but right now Feminism is not just pro-woman it's very much ANTI-man....and I'm sorry maybe YOU are anti man, maybe YOU want to take all things male and throw them on the trash heap of history, but I believe there are quite a few good things that men provide society.

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What the fucking hell is that supposed to mean? You sound like an arrogant little boy? I consider myself a feminist, my daughter would consider herself a feminist as would her mother. All 5 of my sisters would consider themselves to be feminists and I would hope my granddaughter would grown up and choose to be a feminist, and stay away from backward cunts like you. I support local and feminist organisations usually cover their events without a charge. Most of the female boxers i know would consider themselves feminists, as does my sister in law and most of the women in her MMA classes. You just assume everyone is like you. We are not and just because you are ultra conservative and spend your life fretting over people not agreeing with you, you will one day grow up and realise it is a wide world out there and not everyone is like you. You are such a know it all pretentious prick and your attitude and politics stink. If you think all women problems were solved in 1955 then you are a part of the problem.

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Well it's humorous to me that you rant like that Beanz, I mean it REALLY is.


What is Feminism focused on right now? What is the cause du jour of Feminism? Hmmm It's simple as that really to show the absolute disconnect between Western Feminism and what is going on in the world.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJkFQohIKNI


Mukhtar Mai ....SURVIVOR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukht%...C4%81%27%C4%AB




Where are YOU Mr. White Knight? What are you fucking doing other than getting on ME for posting such things? You are angry at me for merely bringing these things up and you think you're fucking helping women.



I'm sorry that I believe in actual equal rights and not your fucking petty ass first world problems.

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It's not a rant Lyle. When you go on for hundreds of pages over literally years about something like all feminists being ugly then that is a rant. This is you projecting your own huge, massive unending list of hang ups onto everyone else. I am angry at you for suggesting that me, my family and most of my friends all subscribe to a cancerous belief system and the arrogance of you as a young man without any children telling me what I should believe. Again it is only you that would fail to even see the obstacles that women still face today. It is only dullards like you that would not see the irony in you assuming that feminists would only be worried about the rights of white women, and not all women. You can't have it both ways you fucking numpty. You said that you didn't even feel anything after seeing a dead refugee child washed up on a Mediterranean beach a and now you are going to lecture feminists about not fighting for Muslim women's rights? Do you not credit women with the ability to do anything but remain passive? Why would any self respecting SJW only be interested in the rights of people in their own country? Do you not even have enough respect to read anything I post? Can you not recall anything that may contradict your made up version of who you are suggesting i must be, simply so you can win an internet argument ?You are now suggesting that the victims in the Weinstein case are to blame because being lefties they must have profited from it as they are all hypocrites.


All these things are much worse than being woke as fuck

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Don't act like it disingenuous idiot don't try to play dumb. We can see right through you. The anglos and the jutes and the Normans they're almost all the exact same kind of people they all look the same they're all white they all come from the same part of the world. Are you now going to try to tell us that so mollies are going to blend and assimilate in with Welsh? Are you now going to tell us that syrians are going to blend in with Cornish people? Are you now going to try to tell us the nonsensical delusional sjw rainbow Kumbaya want to be wishful thinking that Afghan ease and Sudanese are going to blend in and intermarry with white Scottish people? You're out of your mind

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Ironic , a muslim commits a terrorist act and the liberals say " not all muslims are terrorists ".
Which of course is true.

But if you are white and you happen to care about your national identity , then you are a skin head far right nut job WHITE NATIONALIST.

Well I can trace my heritage back over hundreds of years , deep rooted in England . So I care about my country England.

How many of us can say that ?

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4325&stc=1

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Sorry to burst your bubble but all you are doing is boasting about being an immigrant. Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Belgians, Vikings,Normans are all immigrant minorities compared to the original settlers on this island who were the Basques . Yes the Cornish and Welsh are the oldest and most ancient settlers of this land now called England by the immigrant invaders. St George as you know was a foreigner most likely from Palestine or Turkey and also the patron saint of Aragon, Bavaria, Catalonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Germany and Greece; and of Moscow, Istanbul, Genoa and Venice .

I was a skinhead and so can understand how frustrating it is to be labelled by just the way you look. Nobody is calling you a far right nut job white nationalist here, but here you are questioning how many people here care about their country? I have always been proud to be English. I have always been annoyed by the bollocks that idiots post about Anglo Saxons when they are such a tiny insignificant part of the English Story. The Flag which I have no problem with wearing on an England football shirt or the Mrs hanging out of the car or across our windows when there is a Euro or world cup on is actually more of a religious thing, with the red cross going back for eons and representing the Christian (and crusading )part that you would call superstitious nonsense.

It always makes me laugh that Miles and Brockton who have always been the first to go on about Immigrants and strict border control, used to castigate me for the stupidity of patriotism in the past or taking pride in the history and traditions of the country you were born in. My mothers family goes back generations here and even my old man was born here so I am as proud of being English as I am of everything else that make sup my ancestry. Having Jewish, Irish, Polish and Romany on my fathers side is actual about as English as you can get. We are a nation of mongrels and there in lies our adaptability and tenacity.

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You tiny brained bastard , the ones from the past didn't get a free life from the masses, don't you see the difference you idiot ?
The tail wagging the fucking dog , take a look at yourself you fool.

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Ironic , a muslim commits a terrorist act and the liberals say " not all muslims are terrorists ".
Which of course is true.

But if you are white and you happen to care about your national identity , then you are a skin head far right nut job WHITE NATIONALIST.

Well I can trace my heritage back over hundreds of years , deep rooted in England . So I care about my country England.

How many of us can say that ?

http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tid=4325&stc=1

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Sorry to burst your bubble but all you are doing is boasting about being an immigrant. Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Belgians, Vikings,Normans are all immigrant minorities compared to the original settlers on this island who were the Basques . Yes the Cornish and Welsh are the oldest and most ancient settlers of this land now called England by the immigrant invaders. St George as you know was a foreigner most likely from Palestine or Turkey and also the patron saint of Aragon, Bavaria, Catalonia, Georgia, Lithuania, Palestine, Portugal, Germany and Greece; and of Moscow, Istanbul, Genoa and Venice .

I was a skinhead and so can understand how frustrating it is to be labelled by just the way you look. Nobody is calling you a far right nut job white nationalist here, but here you are questioning how many people here care about their country? I have always been proud to be English. I have always been annoyed by the bollocks that idiots post about Anglo Saxons when they are such a tiny insignificant part of the English Story. The Flag which I have no problem with wearing on an England football shirt or the Mrs hanging out of the car or across our windows when there is a Euro or world cup on is actually more of a religious thing, with the red cross going back for eons and representing the Christian (and crusading )part that you would call superstitious nonsense.

It always makes me laugh that Miles and Brockton who have always been the first to go on about Immigrants and strict border control, used to castigate me for the stupidity of patriotism in the past or taking pride in the history and traditions of the country you were born in. My mothers family goes back generations here and even my old man was born here so I am as proud of being English as I am of everything else that make sup my ancestry. Having Jewish, Irish, Polish and Romany on my fathers side is actual about as English as you can get. We are a nation of mongrels and there in lies our adaptability and tenacity.

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You tiny brained bastard , the ones from the past didn't get a free life from the masses, don't you see the difference you idiot ?
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A free life from the masses? Make your mind up, one minute they are stealing jobs the next they are all spongers. What does 'take a look at yourself fool' mean? I save you and other English tax payers a fortune by caring for my Mrs and working. I even worked full time when I was a mature student at university and the kids were still at school. You make a lot of assumptions of people who are different to you.

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It's not a rant Lyle. When you go on for hundreds of pages over literally years about something like all feminists being ugly then that is a rant. This is you projecting your own huge, massive unending list of hang ups onto everyone else. I am angry at you for suggesting that me, my family and most of my friends all subscribe to a cancerous belief system and the arrogance of you as a young man without any children telling me what I should believe. Again it is only you that would fail to even see the obstacles that women still face today. It is only dullards like you that would not see the irony in you assuming that feminists would only be worried about the rights of white women, and not all women. You can't have it both ways you fucking numpty. You said that you didn't even feel anything after seeing a dead refugee child washed up on a Mediterranean beach a and now you are going to lecture feminists about not fighting for Muslim women's rights? Do you not credit women with the ability to do anything but remain passive? Why would any self respecting SJW only be interested in the rights of people in their own country? Do you not even have enough respect to read anything I post? Can you not recall anything that may contradict your made up version of who you are suggesting i must be, simply so you can win an internet argument ?You are now suggesting that the victims in the Weinstein case are to blame because being lefties they must have profited from it as they are all hypocrites.


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Fine believe in Feminism all you want, I'm not stopping you, where am I stopping you?.....I'm still free to say what I want to about it and point out the hypocrisies in it and there ARE hypocrisies in it.

What obstacles? They're are more women in college right now than men, the whole "Women make .77 cents for every dollar a man makes" HORSE SHIT pre-marriage women actually earn more, men are more likely to die on the job more likely to commit suicide more combat casualties etc where's the obstacles in the West??? Now world wide, you fucking bet women have it hard, and if feminism was what it is advertised as then those women in the Middle East would be A#1 on the list to help, they aren't FACT and the minutia Western Feminists get riled up about, it's absurd.....IT the movie IT was blasted by a writer who said the misogyny in that movie was the scariest part....and yet I never see you get on a feminist and be all "Hey, eyes on the prize here, focus on the big picture and women world wide" no you just bumble your stupid ass through life and claim "I'm a feminist, I believe in equal rights"...no you're a virtue signalling moral grand stander.

"It is only dullards like you that would not see the irony in you assuming that feminists would only be worried about the rights of white women, and not all women."
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0479c59d72d37
Good old Intersectional Feminism, oh they're worried about the rights of POC Feminists as well.....just not those in countries outside of America.


Quick question before I get to your bringing up Alan Kurdi, what do you think of Women's March Organizer Linda Sarsour? Think she's a good representative for women? Just wondering....I know you wouldn't ever answer but in asking I am showing faith that eventually you might.


So, where did I mention Alan Kurdi and Feminism and how is that related? Migrants hop on boats to come to the West and get new teeth (Alan Kurdi's father) and what I can't say "Fuck that's fucking dumb, why would you risk your child's life so you could get new teeth? No safer passage than that? No dentists in Turkey?" As for Feminism, how's about the free flow of IDEAS and make the WORLD better rather than moving people all around to places the have a hard time getting to alive?



You are now suggesting that the victims in the Weinstein case are to blame because being lefties they must have profited from it as they are all hypocrites.
Your reading comprehension skills are SHOCKING. I didn't say anything of the sort I actually said it's shocking that actresses would feel they had to subject themselves to that kind fo work environment.....but it's cool, I'll carry on without an apology

BUMP.

I was looking for the "Woke as Fuck" thread, but found this one (which I never wrote in) and decided to put this here instead.



https://www.cf.org/news/native-ameri...k-to-redskins/

"Native American Group Threatens National Boycott If Washington NFL Team Doesn’t Change Name Back to ‘Redskins’"



See... here's the thing. I agree with the statement of the thread title. "Racist as fuck" IS no better than "woke as fuck." Racism, IMHO, is one of the most despicable sentiments held by man. It's based on fear, ignorance, lust for hatred, and all kinds of dark sentiments. And to racism, you can add ethnic prejudices, sexism, and the like. To be clear, I'm not including wanting to force life choices on other people... so I'll add that disclaimer.

But to see the very subjects (Native Americans) of this issue decry the change of a team name, and threaten to boycott the NFL if they don't change it back... well... that would be almost funny if it wasn't so damn ironically tragic. I won't regurgitate the points that are very well explained in the article. Suffice it to say what I've ALWAYS said and maintained. Changing team names and pancake syrup name brands (Aunt Jemima) does NOTHING to change the very real problems of racism in any society. It's misdirected window dressing. It's low hanging fruit. Except in this case it isn't even being picked from the right tree. :vd: It's ridiculous grandstanding by those who really don't want to do one damn thing to tackle the problems for real. So they pick on meaningless bullshit... pat each other on the back on a job well done... and go back to their pitiful lives.

Meanwhile... you've got the very same Native Americans who I guess were apparently supposed to be (cough) grateful for this gesture... and they're up in arms and threatening to boycott the league if they don't change the name back.

Priceless. :rolleyes: :vd:

So yes. Racist as fuck is just as bad as woke as fuck. But make no mistake about it. When people refuse to roll up their sleeves and do things for real... this is the type of brainless shit that happens. Speaking of "fuck".....

WHO THE FUCK instructed this woke mob to speak up for the Native Americans?? Who gave them permission to act as their spokespersons and pressure the NFL to make this change?

Where are they now that the Native American groups are protesting the name change??

Why aren't they now proceeding to tackle every other professional and collegiate team with a supposedly "offensive" team name? (I'll just throw it out there that the list is quite long. Lots of work to do. :D ).

Pathetic.

That takes me back, thanks for the bump.

FYI Titofan, Tommy Robinson was imprisoned for contempt of court and declared himself bankrupt after losing a court case to a schoolboy. :)

At least Luton got promoted to cheer up poor yaxley lennon

Who gets to set what the "middle ground" is, thus predetermining what the extremes would then be based on that middle ground?

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I think the only sensible choice would be people who paid for blue check marks on Twitter.