Garcia vs Porter on Sept 8 for the vacant WBC welterweight belt

5-4 Garcia with Porter majority. Sharp shots last minute of 9th for Garcia and Porter stands down. These rounds are messing with me and that was a coin flip.

Been waiting for Garcia to consistently land that left hook

More punching, less swarming. :)

Screw it I'm going for cleaner sharper work ;D. Fun scrap. Porters right eye mucked up..damn great exchanges end of 10th. Kinda fight that makes you stand up to watch it.

Garcia working the counters.

5-5.

Scores are gonna cause arguments, good round, liked Garcia again

Getting ahead of myself, but when was the last time a fight for a vacant title ended a draw and the title remained vacant?

Porter wins the 11th.

6-5 Porter.

6-5 Garcia. Porter nice boxing round 11 and Garcia feeling it. Dude is really alternating well between bull & box.

I hope it's a draw, 20/1 :D

Damn. I had a draw. Really fun clash of styles.

Fitting way to end a Porter fight, with a huge bleeding cut on the side of Danny's head.

12th could have gone either way, gave it to Porter.

7-5 Porter.

Another bi polar round in 12th. If I was a judge I'd demand drinks ;D.

feel Porter did the damage last round and that is El' Drawo here 114-114. Fun fight man.

Well there you have it. Can't fault the judges. It was close on all cards.

116-112, 115-113 x2

UD Porter.

Kinda feel for Garcia but both kept it real tonight. Long time coming for Porter

Porter gets a close one.

Well...... I wanted Arroyo to win. He lost. I wanted Garcia to win. He lost. Next week I better get mine.

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116-112, 115-113 x2

UD Porter.

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Glad they didn't rob Porter. 115-113 isa good score.

I would have picked Garcia if forced to name a winner

Spence wrecks Porter.

Thurman has been out doing videos about his get back fight then the winner of this. If he gets in the way of Spence after all this time I’m going to be furious. He needs 2 get backs then Spence after Spence destroys Porter. Then Spence/Crawford and 147 has a king. A resolution by early 2020. Of course being boxing it won’t go that way.

Fun day of boxing. And next week the silly GGG/Clanelo crap can end and hopefully MW can get back to meaningful fights after the last 2 years were wasted.

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I would have picked Garcia if forced to name a winner

Spence wrecks Porter.

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I would have thought the judges would give it to Danny.

Not sure on Spence/ Porter yet. Porter needs to start faster. Lets hope they get it done.

Charles Martin is by far the worst HW champion of all time.

I gave it to Porter, good close fight, I thought that Garcia was going to walk it after the first few rounds, Porter grew into the fight, I think that Garcia lost the fight when he took them middle rounds off and Porter won them just through being busier

I like Garcia what's the problem his dad a total complete ass hole.
What a obnoxious git I wonder did he have a bike he could have Fatherd Broner.

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Charles Martin is by far the worst HW champion of all time.

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I did not realize he was on the undercard. Martin put on a spirited performance and round 10 was very exciting.

I had the fight a draw. I think that if someone deserved to win though, it was Porter. Hopefully he is honest when he says that he will fight Spence next and it will be an easy fight to make.

If Mikey Garcia wants to jump to welterweight, I think Danny Garcia is a good fight to start with. A legit fighter at the weight to see if he can hold his own.

For anyone who hasn't seen it yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn8Jes0kcME

I can’t think of a recent fight where a draw was more In order, neither guy deserved to lose that. Would like to see Mikey Garcia fight either of the two before Spence,would be a real acid test and indicator of whether the weight jump is realistic.

Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Uhhh.. I think the logic would be that neither porter or Garcia are as good as Spence, and Mikey’s quite small to be jumping up that much in weight and also going in against a similar talent. I think you’re smart enough to have not posted that, but maybe your desire to antagonize everyone outweighs it often times?

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Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Uhhh.. I think the logic would be that neither porter or Garcia are as good as Spence, and Mikey’s quite small to be jumping up that much in weight and also going in against a similar talent. I think you’re smart enough to have not posted that, but maybe your desire to antagonize everyone outweighs it often times?

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How is it antagonistic to point out that people keep bringing up something that

1)won’t happen
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2)doesn’t fit anyone’s goals

If Mikey Garcia is going to wait until spring/early summer to fight he should be targeting Loma

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Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Uhhh.. I think the logic would be that neither porter or Garcia are as good as Spence, and Mikey’s quite small to be jumping up that much in weight and also going in against a similar talent. I think you’re smart enough to have not posted that, but maybe your desire to antagonize everyone outweighs it often times?

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How is it antagonistic to point out that people keep bringing up something that

1)won’t happen
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2)doesn’t fit anyone’s goals

If Mikey Garcia is going to wait until spring/early summer to fight he should be targeting Loma

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Because we all think jumping in with Spence is a bad idea and that fighting another welter first is the better idea. I would love it if he could fight Loma first and then make the jump. That probably won’t happen either though yet we still talk about it

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Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Uhhh.. I think the logic would be that neither porter or Garcia are as good as Spence, and Mikey’s quite small to be jumping up that much in weight and also going in against a similar talent. I think you’re smart enough to have not posted that, but maybe your desire to antagonize everyone outweighs it often times?

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How is it antagonistic to point out that people keep bringing up something that

1)won’t happen
And
2)doesn’t fit anyone’s goals

If Mikey Garcia is going to wait until spring/early summer to fight he should be targeting Loma

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Well it’s all hypothetical anyways until something is signed, Mikey fought not long ago, I was just saying. Feel like you follow boxing on a day to day thing much more than I, so no real qualms with your stance. Don’t you think it’d be wiser for Garcia to test the waters against someone lesser who holds the weight, though? He looked and struggled every bit the part of a smaller man against lipinets...I totally understand just wanting to see good fights made, but this one could be better in due course, right? I don’t think it’s even competitive if made next.

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Why do people keep talking about Mikey Garcia fighting one of them, it makes no sense? The point of Spence/Garcia is that they want to fight this year or early next year.

Porter doesn’t want to fight until spring at the earliest. Garcia can’t get Loma so raise his profile now and try to get Loma later. Spence can’t get Porter now so try to raise his profile and get Porter in the spring to early summer.

Spence/Garcia is a convenient way to raise each’s profile, make some money and do it now. Waiting for a different fighter defeats the purpose.

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Uhhh.. I think the logic would be that neither porter or Garcia are as good as Spence, and Mikey’s quite small to be jumping up that much in weight and also going in against a similar talent. I think you’re smart enough to have not posted that, but maybe your desire to antagonize everyone outweighs it often times?

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How is it antagonistic to point out that people keep bringing up something that

1)won’t happen
And
2)doesn’t fit anyone’s goals

If Mikey Garcia is going to wait until spring/early summer to fight he should be targeting Loma

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Well it’s all hypothetical anyways until something is signed, Mikey fought not long ago, I was just saying. Feel like you follow boxing on a day to day thing much more than I, so no real qualms with your stance. Don’t you think it’d be wiser for Garcia to test the waters against someone lesser who holds the weight, though? He looked and struggled every bit the part of a smaller man against lipinets...I totally understand just wanting to see good fights made, but this one could be better in due course, right? I don’t think it’s even competitive if made next.

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Generally I would say grow into a weight. But I don’t think Mikey will ever have any more chance against Spence than he does now. I don’t think he beats him now or 2 years from now.

I think it is only a chance for both to get paid and Mikey to walk away with the reputation that he will fight anyone which he can then use to force Loma’s hand. Right now people say Arum/Mikey have issues even though Mikey is quite clear he is willing to make that fight and wants to talk. This leaves Loma free and clear. Nobody demands anything of Loma and somehow the guy clearly willing to fight gets the blame. If he fights Spence everyone knows for certain he is willing to fight Loma so the pressure shifts and we have a chance at least at getting the fight we want.

My only concern in this is how do we force Arum to allow Garcia/Loma

Loma is scheduled to face Pedraza in Dec. Mikey should defend against Commey, they could then realistically start to negotiate this fight.

Both guys best move in my opinion is to unify 135, then look at 140 and the Ramirez/ Orozco winner, Hooker and the WBSS winner.

The fighters at 147 all have their own work to do in the meantime.

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Loma is scheduled to face Pedraza in Dec. Mikey should defend against Commey, they could then realistically start to negotiate this fight.

Both guys best move in my opinion is to unify 135, then look at 140 and the Ramirez/ Orozco winner, Hooker and the WBSS winner.

The fighters at 147 all have their own work to do in the meantime.

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Completely true. Win or lose, Mikey has options at 140. There are really good fights at 140 for him that would really boost his ratings especially if he beats Loma first.

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Loma is scheduled to face Pedraza in Dec. Mikey should defend against Commey, they could then realistically start to negotiate this fight.

Both guys best move in my opinion is to unify 135, then look at 140 and the Ramirez/ Orozco winner, Hooker and the WBSS winner.

The fighters at 147 all have their own work to do in the meantime.

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Makes great sense so they probably wont do it ;D. I actually feel a bit for Mikey as Spence, Garcia and Porter were all talking around him and about the winner meeting Spence next year on the last two cards. Spence talking winner just didn't make sense with the calendar and I feel Mikey was a bit of a pawn. We'll see though but at least on Saturday Garcia wasn't even mentioned and barley looked at the camera. I would love to see him bring a broom to 140 if Loma mega fight remains mute.