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It sees like there is no in between here!! Sure Cotto just lost but he put up a great fight; the match he lost in was a classic and I'm convinced he'll be back! and may be better for the loss. Mayweather does not need to prove anything to the boxing public! Who hate him anyway, why should he?
And these threads after Margaritos biggest win should have been about Margarito!! he has earned the right to be respected!!
I'd have to watch the fight again, JT (PBF-Zab). I thought PBF def was giving Zab the boxing lesson of his life... to the point Zab got frustrated and fought back the only way he knew how... he fouled the sh*t out of Floyd. But was he getting broken down like he did against Miguel? I'd have to watch the fight again. Don't get me wrong... I think Floyd was coming on fast in the fight and may have even stopped Zab... I don't know. But I can't say the beating was as vicious as what Zab got from Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse :-X
No one is saying Margo is without skills, Spic. He does throw a wide variety of shots. Head, body... he's a whirlwind of punches when he gets going. But damn bro.... you gotta admit, he's either got concrete or stainless steel in that jaw. Cotto must've bounced hundreds of clean shots off that head and nothing happened. That's not taking anything away from Tony, just stating an obvious fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Im with you on that fact TitoFan.But It just seems some are begrudging & negating Tonys ability to bring his offense to counter Cottos ,making it sound that the only reason He was victorious was because he takes a good shot.His body work was top notch as well as the defense...........yes defense ;D of Tony in protecting his own body,but not so much the head I agree.I was very convinced,fan or not,that Cotto would do major damage to Margaritos body and going to the head would have small effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanNo one is saying Margo is without skills, Spic. He does throw a wide variety of shots. Head, body... he's a whirlwind of punches when he gets going. But damn bro.... you gotta admit, he's either got concrete or stainless steel in that jaw. Cotto must've bounced hundreds of clean shots off that head and nothing happened. That's not taking anything away from Tony, just stating an obvious fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I think Tony took a major gamble, and it paid off. Margo knew that Cotto would use his vaunted left hook to the body, so he protected it, giving up his face. He was basically saying: "I can take your head shots, but I ain't giving up the body." One of Cotto's post-fight comments in the local press was something to the effect that he had tried to go to the body, but wasn't able to do so effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsIm with you on that fact TitoFan.But It just seems some are begrudging & negating Tonys ability to bring his offense to counter Cottos ,making it sound that the only reason He was victorious was because he takes a good shot.His body work was top notch as well as the defense...........yes defense ;D of Tony in protecting his own body,but not so much the head I agree.I was very convinced,fan or not,that Cotto would do major damage to Margaritos body and going to the head would have small effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanNo one is saying Margo is without skills, Spic. He does throw a wide variety of shots. Head, body... he's a whirlwind of punches when he gets going. But damn bro.... you gotta admit, he's either got concrete or stainless steel in that jaw. Cotto must've bounced hundreds of clean shots off that head and nothing happened. That's not taking anything away from Tony, just stating an obvious fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
The main reason Tony was able to keep throwing was because he wasn't hurt and that's how Cotto is effective he counters fighters they stop throwing and he then steps on the gas and knocks them out or wears them down to where their offense is ineffectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Its all apples and Oranges,I thought that Cotto's most realistic chance going in the fight at hurting Tony was Miguels killer Body attack....Head shots were secondary but would be tempting.If that was taken away and made ineffective due to Tony's Defense to body,using his rangy arms tucked into sides or the fact that he was putting punches on Cottos own body and squaring Cotto on the ropes.I think his under appreciated Offense was the winning factor....but an awesome chin did not hurt ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleThe main reason Tony was able to keep throwing was because he wasn't hurt and that's how Cotto is effective he counters fighters they stop throwing and he then steps on the gas and knocks them out or wears them down to where their offense is ineffectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I hope this remark by arum to lure pbf off retirement will spark cotto-pbf: this is one of the biggest matches every boxing fan is dreanming of. If pbf is brave enough to answer arum's challenge to fight cotto and end some critics reaction that pbf is avoiding everybody at the 147 division.. then we will finally get what we always wanted. Hurrah for boxing!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by terrorsid
Cotto needs a good comeback fight first before even considering this, and why would PBF come out of retirement to fight Cotto, he could get better money now for other fighters
You know what bro it's strange to say this but Floyd dosent look as destructive or violent as Cotto, but he carves people up with presicion.. Zab was so scared of Floyds counters that he stop punching and Mayweater picked him apartQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanI'd have to watch the fight again, JT (PBF-Zab). I thought PBF def was giving Zab the boxing lesson of his life... to the point Zab got frustrated and fought back the only way he knew how... he fouled the sh*t out of Floyd. But was he getting broken down like he did against Miguel? I'd have to watch the fight again. Don't get me wrong... I think Floyd was coming on fast in the fight and may have even stopped Zab... I don't know. But I can't say the beating was as vicious as what Zab got from Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockI disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
nice to see a person tunch on the fact that floyd is a boxer not a brawler and he still breaks people down and ko's them just by being acurate, acurate enought to ko a ricky hatton who had only been knocked down bfor he intered the ring with pbf. also for those who say floyds fights are boring you have to blame both boxers the problem is this floyds counter punching skills make alot of his comp stop punching.
bfor anyone can say floyd faught a smaller hatton to try and take credit from pbf hatton's walk around weight is bigger then floyds and when hatton got in the ring that night he was bigger then floyd(in a interview hatton said this) also floyd wanted hatton after he spanked gatti win he was still at 135.(also a interview i saw on floyd)