Miguel Cotto says Floyd Mayweather Jr will have to Answer

[TitoFan]

Well Chino.... I'm happy to be able to have a disagreement with a ODLH fan and not get into a war of insults. If we all liked the same fighters, boxing would pretty damn boring now, wouldn't it.

I noticed you didn't respond to my comments on Mosley, so I take it you agreed. And about Judah... remember that although he'd been KO'ed by Kostya Tszyu (happy moment in my life), he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

As for talking about Cotto's flaws..... I got no problem with that. He tends to run a bit low on the gas tank a little too much (Mosley, Margarito)... and he's a bit too susceptible to the uppercut. But to me, the pluses FAR outweigh the minuses. He's progressed light-years in his boxing skills and speed. He can box AND he can bang. He also has that warrior mentality and gives it all he's got out there in the ring. There's a reason why so many people love to see him fight. Not to mention the fact that he's a class act in and out of the ring, and leaves the trash-talking to Judah.... er..... others.

[Chino]

Same here man. I don't see it necessary to insult you or your favorite boxer(s) to make my point and I see you do the same so its all good.

I noticed you didn't respond to my comments on Mosley, so I take it you agreed

I didn't see either dominating completely. I was giving Cotto the edge on that one but I am not sure if we can say that Mosley is the same one we saw against ODLH I. Same thing with Judah who was coming from a loosing streak (and recently lost).

As for talking about Cotto's flaws..... I got no problem with that. He tends to run a bit low on the gas tank a little too much (Mosley, Margarito)... and he's a bit too susceptible to the uppercut.

About the uppercut, well, we saw that a few weeks ago but if he gets cut easily and rocked I guess there's something he has to work on with his defense. Or maybe his offense is pretty much his defense.

But to me, the pluses FAR outweigh the minuses. He's progressed light-years in his boxing skills and speed. He can box AND he can bang

Has a good stance. He has a jab and KO power in his punches, no doubt. He can brawl too if he needs to.

There's a reason why so many people love to see him fight. Not to mention the fact that he's a class act in and out of the ring, and leaves the trash-talking to Judah.... er..... others.

Oh yeah, another good thing about him. See, I don't enjoy seeing Mexican boxers loose against Pac. It's not one, or two, but a long streak already (don't agree with the Marquez decisions, but oh well). When he fights a Mexican, I think "Oh gawd, not another one please". But when I hear Pac talk after/before the fights, I don't feel THAT BAD. Nice humble likeable guy. If Pac was a trashtalker I would feel even worse after beating Mexicans and acquiring that nick "The Mexican Assassin". Same thing with Cotto. Someone can trashtalk to him all he wants, he does his talking in the ring and does it quite well.

[truth32]

i was getting to the point but i can push facts if you want cottos chin is not weak because margo cottos chin is weak because zab rocked him corley rocked him and some other guy but i dont even know his name lol. dont get me wrong i dont diss like cotto just think he is alittle over hyped imo its not who he has beat its the way he fights that pulled his fan base. i see clottey beating cotto paul williams beating cotto and also andre berto in a year or 2 i think cotto is just like zab pretty good but he will never get over that hump to make him great

[JT Rock]

he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlier

[truth32]

he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlier

i agree what is tito talking about zab looked really good against clottey he was out working him clottey was just to big and 2 strong for zab.

i got a question for you cotto fans because i would guess most the people posting in this thread are cotto fans y are we even still talkin a cotto mayweather fight they dont compare cotto just got knocked out who has heard anything about him since then?

[Puya]

he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlier

i agree what is tito talking about zab looked really good against clottey he was out working him clottey was just to big and 2 strong for zab.

i got a question for you cotto fans because i would guess most the people posting in this thread are cotto fans y are we even still talkin a cotto mayweather fight they dont compare cotto just got knocked out who has heard anything about him since then?

Cotto did a very competitive fight. The only thing that saved Margo to got KOed was his crazy chin. Cotto was boxing great and landing at will with Power shot, too bad he trusted his power witch had no effect on Margarito.

[piye]

It sees like there is no in between here!! Sure Cotto just lost but he put up a great fight; the match he lost in was a classic and I'm convinced he'll be back! and may be better for the loss. Mayweather does not need to prove anything to the boxing public! Who hate him anyway, why should he?

And these threads after Margaritos biggest win should have been about Margarito!! he has earned the right to be respected!!

[Spicoli]

Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse

[TitoFan]

Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse

No one is saying Margo is without skills, Spic. He does throw a wide variety of shots. Head, body... he's a whirlwind of punches when he gets going. But damn bro.... you gotta admit, he's either got concrete or stainless steel in that jaw. Cotto must've bounced hundreds of clean shots off that head and nothing happened. That's not taking anything away from Tony, just stating an obvious fact.

[Spicoli]

Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse

No one is saying Margo is without skills, Spic. He does throw a wide variety of shots. Head, body... he's a whirlwind of punches when he gets going. But damn bro.... you gotta admit, he's either got concrete or stainless steel in that jaw. Cotto must've bounced hundreds of clean shots off that head and nothing happened. That's not taking anything away from Tony, just stating an obvious fact.

Im with you on that fact TitoFan.But It just seems some are begrudging & negating Tonys ability to bring his offense to counter Cottos ,making it sound that the only reason He was victorious was because he takes a good shot.His body work was top notch as well as the defense...........yes defense of Tony in protecting his own body,but not so much the head I agree.I was very convinced,fan or not,that Cotto would do major damage to Margaritos body and going to the head would have small effect.

[El Kabong]

Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse

The main reason Tony was able to keep throwing was because he wasn't hurt and that's how Cotto is effective he counters fighters they stop throwing and he then steps on the gas and knocks them out or wears them down to where their offense is ineffective

[Spicoli]

Why are people so insistant on,Imo Overstating Margaritos "Titanium super grande Iron Mega Mega Chin" but give his constant varied offense little credit for braking Cotto down??He was not throwing his Chin..... and was effecting Cotto harshly with Bodyshots beginning in the 2nd round and is much more than just a good chin ,jeezarse

The main reason Tony was able to keep throwing was because he wasn't hurt and that's how Cotto is effective he counters fighters they stop throwing and he then steps on the gas and knocks them out or wears them down to where their offense is ineffective

Its all apples and Oranges,I thought that Cotto's most realistic chance going in the fight at hurting Tony was Miguels killer Body attack....Head shots were secondary but would be tempting.If that was taken away and made ineffective due to Tony's Defense to body,using his rangy arms tucked into sides or the fact that he was putting punches on Cottos own body and squaring Cotto on the ropes.I think his under appreciated Offense was the winning factor....but an awesome chin did not hurt

[TitoFan]

he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlier

I'd have to watch the fight again, JT (PBF-Zab). I thought PBF def was giving Zab the boxing lesson of his life... to the point Zab got frustrated and fought back the only way he knew how... he fouled the sh*t out of Floyd. But was he getting broken down like he did against Miguel? I'd have to watch the fight again. Don't get me wrong... I think Floyd was coming on fast in the fight and may have even stopped Zab... I don't know. But I can't say the beating was as vicious as what Zab got from Cotto.

[JT Rock]

he'd never been beaten up like that before. Miguel was the first one to really put him through the meat grinder. It is now after his loss to Clottey, that Judah is beginning to look the worse for the wear.

I disagree with you there Tito.. If you remember Floyd after taking 4 rounds to really get into a groove was digging and raking Judah to the body and scoring with the straight right, at the end of round 10 Floyd hurt Judah in the corner. Zab was tired and hurt looking for a breather fouled Mayweather in the infamous brawl.. Mayweather was beating up and breaking down Judah pretty damn good with sharp accurate punches, the majority fealt the Judah was gonna get stopped in round 11 if it wasnt for the low blow and back of the head punch.. So Cotto was finished what Mayweather started a year earlier

I'd have to watch the fight again, JT (PBF-Zab). I thought PBF def was giving Zab the boxing lesson of his life... to the point Zab got frustrated and fought back the only way he knew how... he fouled the sh*t out of Floyd. But was he getting broken down like he did against Miguel? I'd have to watch the fight again. Don't get me wrong... I think Floyd was coming on fast in the fight and may have even stopped Zab... I don't know. But I can't say the beating was as vicious as what Zab got from Cotto.

You know what bro it's strange to say this but Floyd dosent look as destructive or violent as Cotto, but he carves people up with presicion.. Zab was so scared of Floyds counters that he stop punching and Mayweater picked him apart

[truth32]

nice to see a person tunch on the fact that floyd is a boxer not a brawler and he still breaks people down and ko's them just by being acurate, acurate enought to ko a ricky hatton who had only been knocked down bfor he intered the ring with pbf. also for those who say floyds fights are boring you have to blame both boxers the problem is this floyds counter punching skills make alot of his comp stop punching.

bfor anyone can say floyd faught a smaller hatton to try and take credit from pbf hatton's walk around weight is bigger then floyds and when hatton got in the ring that night he was bigger then floyd(in a interview hatton said this) also floyd wanted hatton after he spanked gatti win he was still at 135.(also a interview i saw on floyd)