Re: Haye/Harrison Press conference tomorrow
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I think it will finally sink in when I see those two clowns in the same room that it really IS happening. I always hoped it was a smokescreen for someone else but, no, David Haye REALLY is cleaning up the division - by fighting Audley Harrison.
What a chicken.
Yeah, it's beyond lame isn't it. A fighter who fights twice a year tops and wants to be retired in a handful of fights going on to fight.....Audley Harrison?
The public are mugs and he knows it.
How are the public mugs? People that buy this fight are paying to be
entertained. How do you know they won't get that?
The are mugs because they are buying into a meaningless fight. Audley Harrison has done nothing to deserve a shot at the title. From what I have seen of Harrison he is not particularly entertaining and doesn't throw. Haye is going to be all over him and it will likely be over early. I like good competitive fights and this is clearly not one of them.
It's a rubbish matchup, Fenster. Fact.
Don't watch it then. Simple.
Just because it doesn't interest you it doesn't make fans that will watch it mugs. Whatever happens many fans will have an entertaining night - hardcore and casual.
You might as well say - anyone that doesn't share your interests are mugs.
I won't watch it. No way am I waking up at 6am to watch this. The only chance I will watch is a replay if Harrison lands the lucky shot.
No proper boxing fan is genuinely going to enjoy this charade. It's a farcical matchup. World boxing champ against ancient domestic opponent who hasn't beaten anybody. Pointless.
I think the people who want to see decent title fights are well within their rights to expect such a thing. A title shot should be earned and not handed out to anybody.
We all know that if there is money to be thrown at nothing then it can happen, but only mugs are paying to watch Audley Harrison at this stage.
Have you ever
bought tickets or PPV for a boxing fight?
Considering that I have spent the past 8 years out of country where the option for doing so doesn't exist I would have to say no. If I had the options you can bet your life I would, the good fights I would watch and others I would skip.
I hope you are not going to lead onto the "you don't pay for it therefore you shouldn't have an opinion" type of argument. I'm a boxing fan and like to see good fights. The fact that I live in Asia shouldn't really exclude me from boxing and having opinions entirely.
That's fair enough. You are a mug too then.
Some mugs like different boxing events to you, thats all ;)
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i change my mind every 5 mins on thei fight, 1st i think haye is a coward not fighting the brothers then i think wait this fight will be massive & PROBABLY GOOD FOR BRITISH BOXING but not world boxing, i think it would be great if harrison won & defended against tyson fury personally. if haye aint fighting wlad or viatli there really aint anyone out there that excites me anyway.
if its ppv then prob go to a friends house & watch it with sum other lads, cheap night in with the beer;D. fk it;D
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So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
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I'm with the FenMan on this one. The whole thing will be entertaining. The build-up, the fight itself and possibly even the aftermath, especially if the A-Train works his magic ;D
I'd much rather watch this than watch him fight Povetkin, Arreola, Chagaev, Peter etc...
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I think it will finally sink in when I see those two clowns in the same room that it really IS happening. I always hoped it was a smokescreen for someone else but, no, David Haye REALLY is cleaning up the division - by fighting Audley Harrison.
What a chicken.
Yeah, it's beyond lame isn't it. A fighter who fights twice a year tops and wants to be retired in a handful of fights going on to fight.....Audley Harrison?
The public are mugs and he knows it.
How are the public mugs? People that buy this fight are paying to be
entertained. How do you know they won't get that?
The are mugs because they are buying into a meaningless fight. Audley Harrison has done nothing to deserve a shot at the title. From what I have seen of Harrison he is not particularly entertaining and doesn't throw. Haye is going to be all over him and it will likely be over early. I like good competitive fights and this is clearly not one of them.
It's a rubbish matchup, Fenster. Fact.
Don't watch it then. Simple.
Just because it doesn't interest you it doesn't make fans that will watch it mugs. Whatever happens many fans will have an entertaining night - hardcore and casual.
You might as well say - anyone that doesn't share your interests are mugs.
I won't watch it. No way am I waking up at 6am to watch this. The only chance I will watch is a replay if Harrison lands the lucky shot.
No proper boxing fan is genuinely going to enjoy this charade. It's a farcical matchup. World boxing champ against ancient domestic opponent who hasn't beaten anybody. Pointless.
I think the people who want to see decent title fights are well within their rights to expect such a thing. A title shot should be earned and not handed out to anybody.
We all know that if there is money to be thrown at nothing then it can happen, but only mugs are paying to watch Audley Harrison at this stage.
Have you ever
bought tickets or PPV for a boxing fight?
Considering that I have spent the past 8 years out of country where the option for doing so doesn't exist I would have to say no. If I had the options you can bet your life I would, the good fights I would watch and others I would skip.
I hope you are not going to lead onto the "you don't pay for it therefore you shouldn't have an opinion" type of argument. I'm a boxing fan and like to see good fights. The fact that I live in Asia shouldn't really exclude me from boxing and having opinions entirely.
That's fair enough. You are a
mug too then.
Some mugs like different boxing events to you, thats all ;)
I hope you are including yourself in this rampant muggery, Fenster. After all wasn't it Shakespeare who said "We are all but mugs with bowels of tea and coffee". Or was it Marlowe? I always get them confused.
If people are genuinely up for this fight, then fair enough. But on the forums I only really see mockery and condemnation. Most of us know that it isn't a real or particularly meaningful fight. I'm sure the ensuing KO will make some laugh, but I just like my big fights with a little more meaning. I love Calzaghe, but you will never catch me defending the Manfredo fight. There are some fights that the fan of boxing would much rather just skip. Hornfinger is right that 90% of fights are pointless, but you expect the ratio to go down markedly when it comes to world title fights. But yeah, not always the case.
Haye with only 3 or 4 fights left is of course right to take easy money, but the boxing purist always wants more than money to add to the legacy. Of course, it's as a boxing fan that I am always coming from. The money option doesn't really compute for me.
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So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
totally understand where u comin from, but haye harrison is gonna be a big fight in the uk, probably the biggest possible. haye is all over the tv here & the average man in the street prob think he is the best out there then there is harrison who is pretty much hated alot not his own fault because after signing a £10 million deal with bbc for his first 10 fights he was always going to be heavily critisized. so let us have this one fight my friend as its gonna be good for the uk & generate alot of money. i myself would prefer haye to fight wlad or vitali but not looking like that will happen for a while if ever.
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I'm with the FenMan on this one. The whole thing will be entertaining. The build-up, the fight itself and possibly even the aftermath, especially if the A-Train works his magic ;D
I'd much rather watch this than watch him fight Povetkin, Arreola, Chagaev, Peter etc...
Agree with this. I think the trash talking will be class A as they both do it quite well. I still think the fight is a total joke when you compare to who Haye SHOULD be fighting but, it is what it is, and, as mentioned before, a comedy KO is guaranteed. There is absolutely no way this fight will go the full distance. If Haye wins, you can bet your bottom dollar/pound, Audley will be using all the excuses he can and will probably try and get a rematch. ;D As long as Haye DOES fight a Klit after this, the comedy value will make it a LITTLE bit easier to swallow. If he doesn't, however, he will lost all respect and dignitity he did/does have.
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ono
I'm with the FenMan on this one. The whole thing will be entertaining. The build-up, the fight itself and possibly even the aftermath, especially if the A-Train works his magic ;D
I'd much rather watch this than watch him fight Povetkin, Arreola, Chagaev, Peter etc...
Agree with this. I think the trash talking will be class A as they both do it quite well. I still think the fight is a total joke when you compare to who Haye SHOULD be fighting but, it is what it is, and, as mentioned before, a comedy KO is guaranteed. There is absolutely no way this fight will go the full distance. If Haye wins, you can bet your bottom dollar/pound, Audley will be using all the excuses he can and will probably try and get a rematch. ;D As long as Haye DOES fight a Klit after this, the comedy value will make it a LITTLE bit easier to swallow. If he doesn't, however, he will lost all respect and dignitity he did/does have.
yeah man the hype is gonna be great, this will be plasted all over the papers, great for british boxing & if harrison wins he can defend against tyson fury & that would be be more great hype. i am actaully thinking this is gonna be a good nights entertainment, either harrison gets KTFO or haye does. either way i am happy;D
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Drago, didn't realise Harrison got that much? Jesus. Remember him being constantly booed from his fourth or fifth profesisonal fight onwards. Must, surely, go down as one of the most disliked British boxers of all time. ;D
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Re: Haye/Harrison Press conference tomorrow
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koppas
Drago, didn't realise Harrison got that much? Jesus. Remember him being constantly booed from his fourth or fifth profesisonal fight onwards. Must, surely, go down as one of the most disliked British boxers of all time. ;D
i might be wrong it may of been £1 million, sorry mate:-\
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Pointless, Pointless fight.
it tells me that Haye aint as confident as he seems because this really is a no win fight for him....
if he wins people will say.... so what.
if he loses he will become the laughing stock of the whole boxing world ((and he could lose))
fighters know what they have to offer... remember when Tyson took on Danny Williams to a host of critic's... Tyson knew why he took that fight and the world did after :(
massive fight in the uk but i doubt the rest of the world will even blink :-\
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Pointless, Pointless fight.
it tells me that Haye aint as confident as he seems because this really is a no win fight for him....
if he wins people will say.... so what.
if he loses he will become the laughing stock of the whole boxing world ((and he could lose))
fighters know what they have to offer... remember when Tyson took on Danny Williams to a host of critic's... Tyson knew why he took that fight and the world did after :(
massive fight in the uk but i doubt the rest of the world will even blink :-\
It might seem pointless but it's easy money for Haye before he risks it all against a Klitschko.
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ono
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Saddo
Pointless, Pointless fight.
it tells me that Haye aint as confident as he seems because this really is a no win fight for him....
if he wins people will say.... so what.
if he loses he will become the laughing stock of the whole boxing world ((and he could lose))
fighters know what they have to offer... remember when Tyson took on Danny Williams to a host of critic's... Tyson knew why he took that fight and the world did after :(
massive fight in the uk but i doubt the rest of the world will even blink :-\
It might seem pointless but it's easy money for Haye before he risks it all against a Klitschko.
But that is the million dollar question will he?
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ono
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El Kabong
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Hornfinger
So you tell me how audley winning this fight and then defending against the likes of tyson fury and derek chisora is going to be good for the sport? No Audley doesn't deserve a shot and I hate the fact that he's getting one in a bid to try and steal the title, but it's going to get much much worse if he was to actually win this.
And I stand by my previous comment. It don't matter how much I or anyone else dislike harrison he'll still come into the ring in better shape than the vast majority of the so called top ten world rated heavys.
OK let's test that theory. Here's a list of heavyweights in general some are top 10, some top 20...who is Audley more in shape than?
Tomaz Adamek
Ruslan Chagaev
Alexander Povetkin
Tony Thompson
Sam Peter
Nicolay Valuev
Dennis Boytsov
Eddie Chambers
Alexander Dimitrenko
Cris Arreola
Odlanier Solis
Alexander Ustinov
Ray Austin
Juan Carlos Gomez
Derrick Rossy
Johnathan Banks
Kali Meehan
Robert Helenius
Fransisco Pianetta
I can only pick out a few, Arreola, Solis, and Chambers jump out at me as being "Fat" or "Pudgy"....but Eddie has to have that extra weight to actually be a heavyweight. Sam Peter under 240 I consider that "in shape"
Chagaev
Povetkin
Thompson
Peter
Valuev
Chambers
Dimitrenko
Solis
Ustinov
Austin
Gomez
Rossy
Banks
Meehan
Pianetta
Helenius
Only Adamek pushes the A-Train close. I can provide pictures
Too bad the A-Train is scared of punching.
Yup.
IMO peter ain't in shape. If he hasn't been ko'ed by the seventh he'll sure as hell be spent physically.
