Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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Perspective, I may be quite strongly behind Fury in this fight but thats for the reasons mentioned. I think he has Hayes number.
I dont lambast or criticise anyone for believing otherwise unlike you and others on here in a weird cliquey group where no one else is allowed a differing opinion.
If it was a Klitschko or Pulev I may feel different but the fact Haye is a puncher didnt help him on Wlads chin which is just as poor as Furys.
As for me bigging up Johnson and Cunningham, those two also beat Hayes heavyweight wins.
Yes that is a fact but all that means is Haye has hand picked his opponents also , it doesn't mean Fury is a fucking world beater.
The fact of the matter is Haye has beaten guys holding a world title , yes a weaker champ at HW than the brothers grim , but until Fury actually goes in with a world class hitter the jury is out on him.
Also as for Wlad having as weak a chin as Fury , Wlad has got off the floor against world class punchers like Sam Peter and won , or are you saying Wlad would have been floored by Cunnigham or Nevan Pajkic ?
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Ok, you agree that Cunnngham and Johnson beat Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora but those fighters are people that Haye faced AFTER wining a title... Fury is still building up to a title shot and hasnt even been a pro 5 years yet. So Tyson is beating better fighters now than Haye is after 12 years as a pro! Fury beat Chisora while he was still fucking aroud and not in shape and only being a pro 3 years. Haye had the advantage of being pro for 11 years when he fought Chisora.
Tyson has tried to get other world class fighters in with him but a few of them turned down the offer on his last fight and cunningham was the only one with the bollocks to tale the fight. In the press conference where Fury, Nazim Richardson and Cunningham were arguing, Cunningham admitted that alot of other fighters tiuned the fight down because they were scared to fight a "giant" fury mentioned names like Wilder, Arreola and Stiverne but it wasnt made clear whether they were the ones offered the fight.
So you now believe everything a fighter says during a heated press conference ? Cunnigham knows that others where offered the fight how ? where is the proof , and do you not think that makes Cunnigham sound better saying he was the only one who would take the fight ?
Fuck me you only believe anything that suits your point of view , whether there is any truth in it at all , did you believe Mike Tyson was really going to go and eat Lennox Lewis's children ?:LOLATYOU:
You seem to believe everything Haye wants you to;)
He wanted to prolong his training because he's not ready and knows Fury is more dangerous than he will let on. As Bunce and others have said, its the only excuse that can reasonably be used this late.
I didn't mention Haye at all , please tell me when I mentioned Haye in my last post ? you didn't address anything I just posted , you just go back to the hear say crap you have been talking about since Saturday.
you are off your fucking head , I didn't talk about Haye in my last point I made, as far as im concerned Haye is a prick , but you have no evidence of anything , why don't you wait till fury fights and beats a fucking good fighter with power , then you can spout your bullshit.
And for the record I wanna see Haye fight a dangerman also , someone who can press him and hit him hard.
Im not having a go at your boyfriend Fury , im talking about boxing in general.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
As for the title of this thread, Peter Fury has said they asked sky if they would take Wilder as a replacement for this Saturday but they refused.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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As for the title of this thread, Peter Fury has said they asked sky if they would take Wilder as a replacement for this Saturday but they refused.
Its got to be true if Peter Fury said it.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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As Bunce and others have said, its the only excuse that can reasonably be used this late.
You're shit scared of your upcoming opponent and want out of the fight. Doyou
A) cut yourself, above the eye of all places. Let’s also consider what avain cunt Haye is.
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B) tear a muscle with no visible sign of injury?
Injury is the only option this late but lets be sensible about it. If its as calculated as you think surely someone would have suggested something other than letting a big lump stick the nut on him.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
Dont forget we are talking about the boy who cried wolf. He knows how an invisible ijury will go down.
As for Fury asking Sky to accept Wilder for Saturday, its on twitter for the whole world to see. If its shit then someone from sky will say it is.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
Was Wilder even fully fit to fight on Friday ?
who was he meant to fight on Friday before Fury offered him the fight contract ?
please can someone answer this ?
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Tyson was as out of shape as Chisora dunce.
Just see what you want but Hayes first hurdle he failed. Tyson came through his;)
Just so we're clear, you're comparing Wladimir Klitschko and Steve Cunningham as equal benchmarks? ??? :vd:
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Dont forget we are talking about the boy who cried wolf. He knows how an invisible ijury will go down.
As for Fury asking Sky to accept Wilder for Saturday, its on twitter for the whole world to see. If its shit then someone from sky will say it is.
Why worry about an injury being invisible or not when people won't even believe a gaping wound?
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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Was Wilder even fully fit to fight on Friday ?
who was he meant to fight on Friday before Fury offered him the fight contract ?
please can someone answer this ?
I don't know, apparently everyone was being pushed hard in training in the Haye camp so why wouldn't he be?
You mean Saturday right?
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Tyson was as out of shape as Chisora dunce.
Just see what you want but Hayes first hurdle he failed. Tyson came through his;)
Just so we're clear, you're comparing Wladimir Klitschko and Steve Cunningham as equal benchmarks? ??? :vd:
No you silly little sausage:rolleyes:
He lost to his first hurdle Thompson;)
Furys first ex world champion he knocked out;D
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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Was Wilder even fully fit to fight on Friday ?
who was he meant to fight on Friday before Fury offered him the fight contract ?
please can someone answer this ?
I don't know, apparently everyone was being pushed hard in training in the Haye camp so why wouldn't he be?
You mean Saturday right?
Yes I mean Saturday , sparring with Haye doesn't make you fight fit , if Wilder was on the undercard then yes he could take the fight , but if he wasn't then how can he be properly prepared ?
not possible.
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
I understand that BUT if Fury is so crap and Wilder was so sure of himself it would make a good fight.
His last fight was only 6 weeks ago and hes been in the Haye camp for about 4 weeks staying fit and sharp in sparring. What a way to leap frog in the rankings;)
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
lol at Wilder being a PPV replacement for Haye. The whole reason the fight is PPV has pulled out but we'll just go ahead with it anyway ;D You guys...
Re: Fury v Wilder on B-Hop undercard...?
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I understand that BUT if Fury is so crap and Wilder was so sure of himself it would make a good fight.
His last fight was only 6 weeks ago and hes been in the Haye camp for about 4 weeks staying fit and sharp in sparring. What a way to leap frog in the rankings;)
This Ross is where you make yourself look very silly , at what point did Wilder or his camp state in the press that Fury is crap ?
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Tyson was as out of shape as Chisora dunce.
Just see what you want but Hayes first hurdle he failed. Tyson came through his;)
Just so we're clear, you're comparing Wladimir Klitschko and Steve Cunningham as equal benchmarks? ??? :vd:
No you silly little sausage:rolleyes:
He lost to his first hurdle Thompson;)
Furys first ex world champion he knocked out;D
They both got floored by a cruiserweight, they both looked shite in those respective fights: Haye punching himself out and Fury having to use illegal tactics to floor the older, smaller man.
I don't know that you can take much from either fight. The difference being that Thompson wasn't Haye's last fight, Cunningham was Fury's most recent fight, he has a way to go yet.
