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Perspective, I may be quite strongly behind Fury in this fight but thats for the reasons mentioned. I think he has Hayes number.

I dont lambast or criticise anyone for believing otherwise unlike you and others on here in a weird cliquey group where no one else is allowed a differing opinion.

If it was a Klitschko or Pulev I may feel different but the fact Haye is a puncher didnt help him on Wlads chin which is just as poor as Furys.

As for me bigging up Johnson and Cunningham, those two also beat Hayes heavyweight wins.
Yes that is a fact but all that means is Haye has hand picked his opponents also , it doesn't mean Fury is a fucking world beater.
The fact of the matter is Haye has beaten guys holding a world title , yes a weaker champ at HW than the brothers grim , but until Fury actually goes in with a world class hitter the jury is out on him.
Also as for Wlad having as weak a chin as Fury , Wlad has got off the floor against world class punchers like Sam Peter and won , or are you saying Wlad would have been floored by Cunnigham or Nevan Pajkic ?

FACT
Ok, you agree that Cunnngham and Johnson beat Ruiz, Harrison and Chisora but those fighters are people that Haye faced AFTER wining a title... Fury is still building up to a title shot and hasnt even been a pro 5 years yet. So Tyson is beating better fighters now than Haye is after 12 years as a pro! Fury beat Chisora while he was still fucking aroud and not in shape and only being a pro 3 years. Haye had the advantage of being pro for 11 years when he fought Chisora.

Tyson has tried to get other world class fighters in with him but a few of them turned down the offer on his last fight and cunningham was the only one with the bollocks to tale the fight. In the press conference where Fury, Nazim Richardson and Cunningham were arguing, Cunningham admitted that alot of other fighters tiuned the fight down because they were scared to fight a "giant" fury mentioned names like Wilder, Arreola and Stiverne but it wasnt made clear whether they were the ones offered the fight.