Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Well, what can I say...
:D
.. I've never seen it ! It happened at a time when I was tuning in to a lot of Boxing, but I missed that one. You'd think I would've seen it in a replay somewhere by now though, but I don't remember seeing it.
Yotube here I come...
You will have to stop pause and rewind it loads of times otherwise you will miss it. It is punch perfect.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
Welterweight Champ Curry looked fantastic in that fight. He was a force, aggressive but it was skillful aggression, slick aggression. Asserted himself immediately, imposed his will and his gameplan. Everything working, the timing, the countering, slipping inside for the counters, the intensity, the focus, the speed and the power.
Milton McCrory was undefeated and a Champion in this unification fight, but Curry made him look like an amateur, like he didn't belong in the same ring with him. Reminded me of another unification fight, Bob Foster vs Vicente Rondan where Foster asserted who was The Man at 175.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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TitoFan
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Master
What I did not like was the fact that Whitaker, Quartey and Tito would not fight another until ODH came and smash their cartel.
Which means what, M?
Here's the fact I personally find amusing:
Common Opponents
Camacho: .....Trinidad - Jan '94 - UD12 ............ DLH - Sept '97 - UD12
Campas: ......Trinidad - Sept '94 - TKO 4 (Campas undefeated at the time) ....... DLH - May '03 - TKO 7
Carr: ............Trinidad - Dec '94 - TKO 8 (Carr undefeated at the time) .......... DLH - May '99 - TKO 11
(eerie string at that point of alphabetical order ;D )
Vargas: .........Trinidad - Dec '00 - TKO 12 (Vargas undefeated at the time) ............ DLH - Sept '02 - TKO 11
Mayorga: .......Trinidad - Oct '04 - TKO 8 ................. DLH - May '06 - TKO 6
Hence, the "leftovers theory".
De La Hoya just beat them better
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
Campas: Trinidad floored and hurt by Campas. De La Hoya dominates him
Carr: Trinidad hurt and floored by Carr. De La Hoya has minor problems with him
Vargas: Trinidad floored, hurt and forced to use a low blow against Vargas. De La Hoya doesn't have as much trouble against Vargas
Mayorga: Trinidad floored by Mayorga. De La Hoya has no trouble with him
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
Oscar was clearly the better fighter than tito and this is coming from an unbias, neutral fan...
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Master
What I did not like was the fact that Whitaker, Quartey and Tito would not fight another until ODH came and smash their cartel.
Which means what, M?
Here's the fact I personally find amusing:
Common Opponents
Camacho: .....Trinidad - Jan '94 - UD12 ............ DLH - Sept '97 - UD12
Campas: ......Trinidad - Sept '94 - TKO 4 (Campas undefeated at the time) ....... DLH - May '03 - TKO 7
Carr: ............Trinidad - Dec '94 - TKO 8 (Carr undefeated at the time) .......... DLH - May '99 - TKO 11
(eerie string at that point of alphabetical order ;D )
Vargas: .........Trinidad - Dec '00 - TKO 12 (Vargas undefeated at the time) ............ DLH - Sept '02 - TKO 11
Mayorga: .......Trinidad - Oct '04 - TKO 8 ................. DLH - May '06 - TKO 6
Hence, the "leftovers theory".
De La Hoya just beat them better
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
Campas: Trinidad floored and hurt by Campas. De La Hoya dominates him
Carr: Trinidad hurt and floored by Carr. De La Hoya has minor problems with him
Vargas: Trinidad floored, hurt and forced to use a low blow against Vargas. De La Hoya doesn't have as much trouble against Vargas
Mayorga: Trinidad floored by Mayorga. De La Hoya has no trouble with him
of course he did "better" he fought them at least two years after Trinidad fucked all of the above up, and after Trinidad RUINED both Campas and Vargas, DLH lost to Whitaker, Trinidad beat the living snot out of him, and you can't say shit cause I'm using the same retarded ass logic that you have, cause I know that DLH was in there with Whitaker when he had more left in the tank.....2 yrs prior
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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FinitoElDinamita
Oscar was clearly the better fighter than tito and this is coming from an unbias, neutral fan...
Haha... you wouldn't know an unbiasED, neutral fan if one bent you over and rammed his neutrality into you.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Violent Demise
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
:11fb8:
Once again your ignorance rears its ugly head. First Trinidad "ducked" Quartey, which you had no backup for..... and now he didn't come close to stopping Camacho. Trinidad had Camacho wobbled and backing up, running for dear life. Pretty much what DLH did against Trinidad years later after tasting Felix's power.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Master
What I did not like was the fact that Whitaker, Quartey and Tito would not fight another until ODH came and smash their cartel.
Which means what, M?
Here's the fact I personally find amusing:
Common Opponents
Camacho: .....Trinidad - Jan '94 - UD12 ............ DLH - Sept '97 - UD12
Campas: ......Trinidad - Sept '94 - TKO 4 (Campas undefeated at the time) ....... DLH - May '03 - TKO 7
Carr: ............Trinidad - Dec '94 - TKO 8 (Carr undefeated at the time) .......... DLH - May '99 - TKO 11
(eerie string at that point of alphabetical order ;D )
Vargas: .........Trinidad - Dec '00 - TKO 12 (Vargas undefeated at the time) ............ DLH - Sept '02 - TKO 11
Mayorga: .......Trinidad - Oct '04 - TKO 8 ................. DLH - May '06 - TKO 6
Hence, the "leftovers theory".
De La Hoya just beat them better
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
Campas: Trinidad floored and hurt by Campas. De La Hoya dominates him
Carr: Trinidad hurt and floored by Carr. De La Hoya has minor problems with him
Vargas: Trinidad floored, hurt and forced to use a low blow against Vargas. De La Hoya doesn't have as much trouble against Vargas
Mayorga: Trinidad floored by Mayorga. De La Hoya has no trouble with him
of course he did "better" he fought them at least two years after Trinidad fucked all of the above up, and after Trinidad RUINED both Campas and Vargas, DLH lost to Whitaker, Trinidad beat the living snot out of him, and you can't say shit cause I'm using the same retarded ass logic that you have, cause I know that DLH was in there with Whitaker when he had more left in the tank.....2 yrs prior
So now a loss means a fighter is ruined right? So going by your moronic logic Mayorga had already ruined by Cory Spinks prior to facing Trinidad, right? Wrong stupid. Vargas and Campas both won titles after supposedly being ruined by Trinidad. :vd:
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
:11fb8:
Once again your ignorance rears its ugly head. First Trinidad "ducked" Quartey, which you had no backup for..... and now he didn't come close to stopping Camacho. Trinidad had Camacho wobbled and backing up,
running for dear life. Pretty much what DLH did against Trinidad years later after tasting Felix's power.
It must of slipped my mind. What round did Trinidad floor Camacho in? That's right. He didn't. For someone who claims to be a big Trinidad fan you sure don't seem to know much about him. Like I said true boxing fans know Quartey-Trinidad had been signed when all of a sudden Trinidad decided he had issues with Don King and pulled out.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
:11fb8:
Once again your ignorance rears its ugly head. First Trinidad "ducked" Quartey, which you had no backup for..... and now he didn't come close to stopping Camacho. Trinidad had Camacho wobbled and backing up,
running for dear life. Pretty much what DLH did against Trinidad years later after tasting Felix's power.
It must of slipped my mind. What round did Trinidad floor Camacho in? That's right. He didn't. For someone who claims to be a big Trinidad fan you sure don't seem to know much about him. Like I said true boxing fans know Quartey-Trinidad had been signed when all of a sudden Trinidad decided he had issues with Don King and pulled out.
Hahaha.... no..... you're right. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho. Why? Because Camacho spent half the fight trying to tackle Trinidad, and the other half doing the "De La Hoya backpedal sprint".
LOL..... please..... don't use the term "true boxing fan" in reference to yourself. You're killing me here. Hahahaha. This is priceless. The more shit you spout, the more stupid you sound. Trinidad didn't knock down Camacho, so that "makes De La Hoya's victory that much more superior". You are one piece of work, man. Who does your material? You're in the wrong place. Standup comedy needs you. Except you'd be saying serious shit, and the place would be rocking with laughter.
No... but you're right. Camacho was very competitive against Trinidad. Good thing it didn't go another 3 rounds. Trinidad would've been in real trouble. Hahahaha!!
But back to the "leftovers theory". Not bad, huh? A clear pattern throughout the course of many years. Trinidad ruined them..... DLH beat the remains. Big brother beats the shit out of them..... removes their "0"...... and little brother comes along and kicks the dead body for good measure.
This is good shit, man. ;D ;D ;D
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
A prime Trinidad destroys a prime Pacquiao.
Trinidad will never be as good a fighter as Pacquiao is though.
But this is just a very bad matchup for Pacquiao.
Fightmath doesn't work, you young lil $#!t-snaps you... ;)
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
Sugar Ray Robinson said after watching Hearns KO Duran, that while it was true that Hearns had just knocked out Duran, that Hearns will never be as good a fighter as Duran.
That's how I would see Trinidad-Pacquiao.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Master
What I did not like was the fact that Whitaker, Quartey and Tito would not fight another until ODH came and smash their cartel.
Which means what, M?
Here's the fact I personally find amusing:
Common Opponents
Camacho: .....Trinidad - Jan '94 - UD12 ............ DLH - Sept '97 - UD12
Campas: ......Trinidad - Sept '94 - TKO 4 (Campas undefeated at the time) ....... DLH - May '03 - TKO 7
Carr: ............Trinidad - Dec '94 - TKO 8 (Carr undefeated at the time) .......... DLH - May '99 - TKO 11
(eerie string at that point of alphabetical order ;D )
Vargas: .........Trinidad - Dec '00 - TKO 12 (Vargas undefeated at the time) ............ DLH - Sept '02 - TKO 11
Mayorga: .......Trinidad - Oct '04 - TKO 8 ................. DLH - May '06 - TKO 6
Hence, the "leftovers theory".
De La Hoya just beat them better
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
Campas: Trinidad floored and hurt by Campas. De La Hoya dominates him
Carr: Trinidad hurt and floored by Carr. De La Hoya has minor problems with him
Vargas: Trinidad floored, hurt and forced to use a low blow against Vargas. De La Hoya doesn't have as much trouble against Vargas
Mayorga: Trinidad floored by Mayorga. De La Hoya has no trouble with him
of course he did "better" he fought them at least two years after Trinidad fucked all of the above up, and after Trinidad RUINED both Campas and Vargas, DLH lost to Whitaker, Trinidad beat the living snot out of him, and you can't say shit cause I'm using the same retarded ass logic that you have, cause I know that DLH was in there with Whitaker when he had more left in the tank.....2 yrs prior
So now a loss means a fighter is ruined right? So going by your moronic logic Mayorga had already ruined by Cory Spinks prior to facing Trinidad, right? Wrong stupid. Vargas and Campas both won titles after supposedly being ruined by Trinidad. :vd:
yea paper titles against who? oh that's right the likes of Raul Marquez and Shibata Flores :-X , bitch please, Martinez whooped the fuck out of Chavez Jr and still hasn't loss and you tried playing up that Silver Spoon Jr ruined him, but the difference is when I say it, it's true, Campas QUIT every fight he started getting his ass beat after the thrashing that Trinidad gave him, and well Vargas? well Trinidad busted him up so bad that his ass went running crying to the locker room before he could even get interviewed, and then couldn't even get by DLH even with the help of steroids, get off the smack buddy it's fucking up your double standard brain
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
Still don't see the problem with Oscar fighting them later then Tito he was not even in the division yet when Tito was fighting them. Also when they meet Oscar gave Tito a boxing lesson and was robbed so i don't think Tito needed to weaken opponents for him. Oscar took on Mosley and Ike as well he would fight anyone so i don't get your logic about Oscar Titofan he fought big names they were still big names. As for Chavez jr why are we bringing him up into this just a spoiled rich boy wastes talent.
Re: Pac beats Tito Trinidad at 147
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ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by
Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Master
What I did not like was the fact that Whitaker, Quartey and Tito would not fight another until ODH came and smash their cartel.
Which means what, M?
Here's the fact I personally find amusing:
Common Opponents
Camacho: .....Trinidad - Jan '94 - UD12 ............ DLH - Sept '97 - UD12
Campas: ......Trinidad - Sept '94 - TKO 4 (Campas undefeated at the time) ....... DLH - May '03 - TKO 7
Carr: ............Trinidad - Dec '94 - TKO 8 (Carr undefeated at the time) .......... DLH - May '99 - TKO 11
(eerie string at that point of alphabetical order ;D )
Vargas: .........Trinidad - Dec '00 - TKO 12 (Vargas undefeated at the time) ............ DLH - Sept '02 - TKO 11
Mayorga: .......Trinidad - Oct '04 - TKO 8 ................. DLH - May '06 - TKO 6
Hence, the "leftovers theory".
De La Hoya just beat them better
Camacho: Both go 12. De La Hoya floors Camacho and damn near has him out. Trinidad didn't come close to stopping Camacho
Campas: Trinidad floored and hurt by Campas. De La Hoya dominates him
Carr: Trinidad hurt and floored by Carr. De La Hoya has minor problems with him
Vargas: Trinidad floored, hurt and forced to use a low blow against Vargas. De La Hoya doesn't have as much trouble against Vargas
Mayorga: Trinidad floored by Mayorga. De La Hoya has no trouble with him
of course he did "better" he fought them at least two years after Trinidad fucked all of the above up, and after Trinidad RUINED both Campas and Vargas, DLH lost to Whitaker, Trinidad beat the living snot out of him, and you can't say shit cause I'm using the same retarded ass logic that you have, cause I know that DLH was in there with Whitaker when he had more left in the tank.....2 yrs prior
So now a loss means a fighter is ruined right? So going by your moronic logic Mayorga had already ruined by Cory Spinks prior to facing Trinidad, right? Wrong stupid. Vargas and Campas both won titles after supposedly being ruined by Trinidad. :vd:
yea paper titles against who? oh that's right the likes of Raul Marquez and Shibata Flores :-X , bitch please, Martinez whooped the fuck out of Chavez Jr and still hasn't loss and you tried playing up that Silver Spoon Jr ruined him, but the difference is when I say it, it's true, Campas QUIT every fight he started getting his ass beat after the thrashing that Trinidad gave him, and well Vargas? well Trinidad busted him up so bad that his ass went running crying to the locker room before he could even get interviewed, and then couldn't even get by DLH even with the help of steroids, get off the smack buddy it's fucking up your double standard brain
You're a fucking idiot. And you don't know shit about boxing. I'm a go slowly. So hopefully you're dumb ass can keep up while I destroy your Trinidad ruined Campas nonsense. Before fighting Trinidad, Campas had never won anything. In fact the best fighter he had beaten was Jorge Vaca. Vaca who at his best was only a B fighter was about 70 years old when Campas beat him. So after supposedly being ruined by Trinidad, Campas not only became champion but also when on to beat better fighters than he had beaten prior to facing Trinidad. So how exactly was he ruined?
Game. Set. Match