I like Sweatpea vs Floyd though. That's a toss up for sure.
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I like Sweatpea vs Floyd though. That's a toss up for sure.
Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
I won't argue Ike and Sweat Pea, but how does Tito beat Floyd? Serious question. What do you see in Tito that you think would give him an advantage over Floyd. I mean I get he's a bigger guy, and he hits hard. Floyd's fought a lot of guys who were bigger and hit harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
What would Tito's game plan be?
I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
Greatest defensive fighter , ring craftsman and technician of all time
Worst attacking champion of all time
What would Floyd do if an opponent just came out when the bell rang and leaned back on the ropes and waited ?
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerI get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Floyd would love that!
He'd get hit even less then if the opponent attacked him.
Someone on another site said that Canelo was green when Floyd fought him. That's ridiculous.
Canelo had 41 fights prior to Floyd. He wasn't green at all.
Canelo was inept in that fight and should have used his size and strenght. He was forced to weigh 1lb less and that may have had some impact. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
I say the same thing. It's not the sheer number of fights, it's the jump in class/exposure. Kid went to a mega fight without fighting the competition necessary to challenge the worlds best fighter. If you follow the sport, you know how high caliber the majority of those fights (especially in Mexico) were. Kid didn't even punch in that fight, just followed afloyd n got punched in his face. He froze in the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by VG_Addict
Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.
I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodDamn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.
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Originally Posted by ruthless roccoI know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodDamn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.
Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO
Yep... The reach advantage and natural size difference has always been the key to beating Floyd, because he's never been at a disadvantage in either of those categories.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoI know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodDamn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerI get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.
I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.
Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO
Try harder
Floyd is a quality fighter but could he have remained undisputed champion when Pernell, ike, Tito and Oscar were around at that time? No way, never mind Leonard, Hearns and Duran ( for the one fight at least).
That's a good point too. Tito was so upright in his stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco