Saddo poll - Where are you on Floyd

[mikeeod]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

[ruthless rocco]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

[C.J.Rock]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO

[frozensolid-702]

Tito was not only naturally bigger and punched harder he also was taller and had reach advantage. Floyd would have to fight the perfect fight and not get hit clean once, which he is more than capable of doing but does not punch sufficiently hard to deter Tito. I say Tito wins decision but would not be surprised if it was a stoppage.

I get that he's taller, bigger and punches harder, but how is he going to land those shots? Floyd's not Paulie in there, you can't just walk through his shots.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I just want someone to explain it to me. Given all the trouble Tito has had with slick boxers who move well, I have no idea how Tito wins that fight save for landing a big bomb. Tito's big bomb was the left hook, Floyd doesn't get hit with left hooks. Tito's right was good but not great. Floyd has shown the ability to get hit and survive. Not sure how Tito wins this, seems like wishful thinking if anything.

I'd argue that while Tito had a 1/2 inch reach advantage, Floyd's stance would not only negate it but he may actually have the reach advantage over Tito.

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

I know you aren't very bright so I'll explain further. Mayweather has left shoulder forward type of stance that may give him a greater reach advantage over a more squared up Trinidad.

Rocco thinks Floyd walks on water ROFLMAO

Yep... The reach advantage and natural size difference has always been the key to beating Floyd, because he's never been at a disadvantage in either of those categories.
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[Master]

Floyd is a quality fighter but could he have remained undisputed champion when Pernell, ike, Tito and Oscar were around at that time? No way, never mind Leonard, Hearns and Duran ( for the one fight at least).

[Beanflicker]

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

It actually is a fair point made by Rocco.

If a guy is standing completely upright and a guy is leaning more forward like Floyd does, doesn't it stand to reason that the guy leaning forward can reach farther? Especially if the difference in total reach is only half an inch?

[mikeeod]

Damn!!!! You know a guy is great when he has a shorter reach by 1/2 inch and STILL somehow has the reach advantage. Great post Rocco, no way r u a Floyd chugger!!

It actually is a fair point made by Rocco.

If a guy is standing completely upright and a guy is leaning more forward like Floyd does, doesn't it stand to reason that the guy leaning forward can reach farther? Especially if the difference in total reach is only half an inch?

Not being a jerk, but have you ever actually boxed before? Boxing "upright", or boxing "tall" is advantageous to the taller guy with the longer reach. Blading ur body as much as Floyd does and boxing out of a shoulder roll/crouch doesn't give u any kind of reach advantage. Look at how the Klits/Lewis fight for an example of fighting tall/upright and how effective that can be. Floyd's weapons against Tito would've been foot movement, angles/footwork, and speed. He would've landed the jab, as Hop and Oscar did, when Tito was setting his feet to punch, but if they throw jabs at the same time/speed, Tito lands his from farther away. Rocco is an idiot and rarely brings up any good points.

[Beanflicker]

Not being a jerk, but have you ever actually boxed before? Boxing "upright", or boxing "tall" is advantageous to the taller guy with the longer reach. Blading ur body as much as Floyd does and boxing out of a shoulder roll/crouch doesn't give u any kind of reach advantage. Look at how the Klits/Lewis fight for an example of fighting tall/upright and how effective that can be. Floyd's weapons against Tito would've been foot movement, angles/footwork, and speed. He would've landed the jab, as Hop and Oscar did, when Tito was setting his feet to punch, but if they throw jabs at the same time/speed, Tito lands his from farther away. Rocco is an idiot and rarely brings up any good points.

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Wasn't talking about Floyd standing upright in the shoulder roll, but a lot of the time he will lean forward on his lead foot.

Standing upright makes your head a farther target, but again doesn't it stand to reason that a man leaning slightly forward can reach farther than a man standing completely upright?

Either way, we're talking about a half inch reach advantage. It really is a moot point.

I'd be more interested in having someone explain to me how Tito beats Floyd. All anyone has ever come up with is that he's bigger and hits harder (a category in which pretty much all of Floyd's opponents fall into).

Are we just counting on Tito landing a hail mary left hook? Against probably the greatest defensive fighter in history? Can anyone tell me the last time Floyd took a hard left hook on the chin from an orthodox fighter?

[Master]

Floyd has never faced a one punch knock out artist like Tito. At welterweight he would get caught, hurt and stopped.

[Beanflicker]

Floyd has never faced a one punch knock out artist like Tito. At welterweight he would get caught, hurt and stopped.

What world class fighters has Tito one-punch KO'd?

Be honest with me now, how confident are you really that Tito is going to one-punch Floyd Mayweather? Does anyone else feel this way?

Considering...

a) In nearly 20 years of pro boxing, Floyd's been down once (he took a knee after shattering his hand)
b) Floyd is one of the hardest guys to hit in boxing history.
c) Floyd has shown a solid chin and the ability to recover from a big shot (or two, in the case of Mosley)
d) Tito has never scored a one-punch knockout against a world class opponent.
e) Tito often failed to get the KO against slicker boxers (Camacho, washed up coke addicted Sweatpea, David Reid, Oscar, Hopkins, ect)

Is that really where the smart money goes? Tito by KO? Come on.

[Master]

Floyd has never faced a one punch knock out artist like Tito. At welterweight he would get caught, hurt and stopped.

What world class fighters has Tito one-punch KO'd?

Be honest with me now, how confident are you really that Tito is going to one-punch Floyd Mayweather? Does anyone else feel this way?

Considering...

a) In nearly 20 years of pro boxing, Floyd's been down once (he took a knee after shattering his hand)
b) Floyd is one of the hardest guys to hit in boxing history.
c) Floyd has shown a solid chin and the ability to recover from a big shot (or two, in the case of Mosley)
d) Tito has never scored a one-punch knockout against a world class opponent.
e) Tito often failed to get the KO against slicker boxers (Camacho, washed up coke addicted Sweatpea, David Reid, Oscar, Hopkins, ect)

Is that really where the smart money goes? Tito by KO? Come on.

Tito has destroyed joppy at middleweight with a frightening punch that no one has ever done to him.

[ruthless rocco]

Floyd has never faced a one punch knock out artist like Tito. At welterweight he would get caught, hurt and stopped.

What world class fighters has Tito one-punch KO'd?

Be honest with me now, how confident are you really that Tito is going to one-punch Floyd Mayweather? Does anyone else feel this way?

Considering...

a) In nearly 20 years of pro boxing, Floyd's been down once (he took a knee after shattering his hand)
b) Floyd is one of the hardest guys to hit in boxing history.
c) Floyd has shown a solid chin and the ability to recover from a big shot (or two, in the case of Mosley)
d) Tito has never scored a one-punch knockout against a world class opponent.
e) Tito often failed to get the KO against slicker boxers (Camacho, washed up coke addicted Sweatpea, David Reid, Oscar, Hopkins, ect)

Is that really where the smart money goes? Tito by KO? Come on.

Blinded by jealousy and hate... Haha!

Tito doesn't even connect with a real solid shot all night.