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Looks like I've gone with the majority here, I've voted AJ via KO but I still maintain that if Klit has anything left then he will cause a shock
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDo you get many splinters in your ass from sitting on that fence? ;D;D;DQuote:
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He comes across very well in the media. I'll take him more seriously when he's fought someone of substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraMy point is that AJ is going out and doing what he is supposed to do (and in some style), whereas Khan, BJS, Eubank Jr. want all the recognition and Money while doing literally fuck all.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanzI too would not put AJ in their bracket yet either. Khan has faced a lot sterner opposition than AJ and whilst he has frittered away the tail end of his career he fought his way to where he is love him or hate him. BJS again whilst not really having the portfolio he should have is a very gifted boxer, way more in his arsenal than AJ will probably ever have and that's not knocking Joshua it's just a fact. I don't really get what point you are supposed to be making. You talk about Brits in the third person as though they are just one big amalgam. AJ seems pretty popular amongst both 'casuals' and hardcore fans who while not necessarily seeing a great deal of depth yet other than his ability to spark people out , respect his honesty and respect for boxing. It's nice to have a guy without a big mouth but he is never going to make the big headlines Guys like Fury, Haye, Mayweather etc do because his whole persona is built around avoiding controversy which the other guys feed on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI know what you mean about being multi millionaires without proving themselves or even being any good. That's why I can't take to the likes of Eubank Jr. BJS, Khan etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I personally don't put AJ in their bracket, but each to their own. It just surprises me.
I also dispute that Khan has fought his way to where he is. Many years ago , he beat Maidana, and that's it. BJS and Eubank the same. BJS beat Andy Lee, Eubank has beaten nobody.
AJ has dispatched of a World Champion by early KO to gain his title, Molina (who gave the other Champion a much harder time of it) and Brezeale , who arguably would give almost any other HW on the planet a pretty good fight, and all by KO.
It's not his fault that he hasn't been tested, it's not like he's ducked anyone after all.
I totally get the Hearn/Matchroom/Sky golden bollocks resentment that people would have, but again , it's not his fault.
And while he won't get the headlines Fury, Haye and Mayweather get , with the exception of Mayweather , I bet the others, (and just about every other Boxer on the planet) would swap Bank Balances with him.
Right now, he's a world champion by fighting boxings equivalent of a tomato can and defending against another tomato can.
At least Whyte gave him something to chew on in the early rounds and Joshua recovered. You know, someone who actually punches back.
Right now he's not that good that no one can stand up to him. This isn't another brief Mike Tyson era. There are fighters out there who we know can stand up, he hasn't been allowed to fight them yet.
Sod Eubank Jnr who I'd guess more and more people are getting pissed off with his little circus. Maybe oneday he'll get serious and boxing fans will appreciate him.
The wome are hot for AJ. That women at the start is on some One direction / Justin Bieber crazy teenage fan shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKU2cPZoX68
I think Joshua will win, he's too strong and too young for the current faded, inactive version of Klitschko.
Wlad, despite being past his prime, would still likely beat anybody else, but not Joshua.
However, I'll be rooting for Klitschko because he is underrated as an all-time great heavyweight, and because although he's age 41, he's taking on the best prime heavyweight in the world.
what if wlad won tho
wouldn't that be totally shit?
we'd have to watch him hold small guys for 12 rounds at least a couple more times
No it would not. If Wlad beats AJ then it would confirm that he is a great heavyweight champion not just because of the record number of defences but also because he can come back from a defeat at his age.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If Wlad won I am sure there would be a rematch or Wlad would try and unify against Wilder.
So the future would be bright. :)
well if there was something to look forward to if he won then it would be the first time there would be something to look forward to whilst wlad was champQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterNo it would not. If Wlad beats AJ then it would confirm that he is a great heavyweight champion not just because of the record number of defences but also because he can come back from a defeat at his age.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If Wlad won I am sure there would be a rematch or Wlad would try and unify against Wilder.
So the future would be bright. :)
and he might have the record number of defences but he also has the record number of shit world title fights that any fighter has had in any weight in the whole of history
and you cant argue with that :)
I just can't shake the feeling that Joshua having never fought anyone with Klitschko's experience will be found out. Wlad doesn't really need this fight. He is well educated, financially secure and has all his faculties in order. His inactivity is worrying but may also be beneficial. He may be coming in well rested and refreshed. I keep asking myself how is Joshua going to deal with frustration and the longer it goes does the mental side of it affect him worse? I'm really looking forward to this fight which is something I haven't really said about a Wlad fight before.
I think AJ showed good patience against Whyte and Breazeale and stayed composed and focused after landing huge punches early on that didn't quite put the opponent down.
Also the scare against Whyte where he showed a wise head, went back to basics got the jab working and wore Whyte down before banging him out.
I don't think we need to worry about AJ losing focus/panicking more the gas tank running out late in a fight like Frank Bruno used to.
I can't see a way Wlad can handle such a young, strong, fast and proper athlete for too many rounds.
Can only see an AJ KO win
Agree 100%. Still don't understand why Wlad wants this fight. The only way I can see Wlad winning if AJ chin is made of China.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
I think Wlad believes AJ is untested and that he will not handle the pressure of going into the later rounds. Wlad hopes that AJ will fall apart and maybe even stop him late like Witherspoon v Bruno. That is his main tactic in winning the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1Agree 100%. Still don't understand why Wlad wants this fight. The only way I can see Wlad winning if AJ chin is made of China.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
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Originally Posted by MasterI think Wlad believes AJ is untested and that he will not handle the pressure of going into the later rounds. Wlad hopes that AJ will fall apart and maybe even stop him late like Witherspoon v Bruno. That is his main tactic in winning the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1Agree 100%. Still don't understand why Wlad wants this fight. The only way I can see Wlad winning if AJ chin is made of China.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
This could turn out to be a absolute beating for Wlad, he only has one chance in my eyes and thats get Joshua stone cold as once AJ gets going it s all over, no way an old inactive negative clincher is going to outwork over power a young terminator like Joshua, Wlad is no Mayweather, he couldn't even handle Tyson Fury.