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Ok, would Duran have beaten Floyd at lightweight in your opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
yeah he did well, still would never have beaten Floyd or JonesQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo show how great Duran was past his best weight he beat undefeated Leonard (welterweight title), Moore (super welterweight title), took Hagler to points and beat Barkley for middleweight title being under 40. Amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
and he beat Leonard
Leonard also beat him in the return.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44yeah he did well, still would never have beaten Floyd or JonesQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterTo show how great Duran was past his best weight he beat undefeated Leonard (welterweight title), Moore (super welterweight title), took Hagler to points and beat Barkley for middleweight title being under 40. Amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
and he beat Leonard
I haven't seen much of him to really give a gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
But the few fights I have seen he looked very average
I don't really rate Kessler all that highly to be honest
He lost every big fight he had (he got a gift against Froch)
Sven Ottke was poor and Kessler would have beaten him. Kessler beat Froch in a close and classic fight the first time, it was not a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoI haven't seen much of him to really give a gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
But the few fights I have seen he looked very average
I don't really rate Kessler all that highly to be honest
He lost every big fight he had (he got a gift against Froch)
I didn't even think it was close in the first fight, I thought Kessler won quite convincingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterSven Ottke was poor and Kessler would have beaten him. Kessler beat Froch in a close and classic fight the first time, it was not a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoI haven't seen much of him to really give a gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
But the few fights I have seen he looked very average
I don't really rate Kessler all that highly to be honest
He lost every big fight he had (he got a gift against Froch)
He also gave Calzaghe and Ward their toughest fights at SMW. Ok , he's no ATG, but that's not a bad CV.
froch won the first fight against Kessler just as clearly as did the secondQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterSven Ottke was poor and Kessler would have beaten him. Kessler beat Froch in a close and classic fight the first time, it was not a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoI haven't seen much of him to really give a gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
But the few fights I have seen he looked very average
I don't really rate Kessler all that highly to be honest
He lost every big fight he had (he got a gift against Froch)
I think it could be described as a gift
Both fights were competitive and no one got a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44froch won the first fight against Kessler just as clearly as did the secondQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterSven Ottke was poor and Kessler would have beaten him. Kessler beat Froch in a close and classic fight the first time, it was not a gift.Quote:
Originally Posted by GaMoI haven't seen much of him to really give a gradeQuote:
Originally Posted by palmerq
But the few fights I have seen he looked very average
I don't really rate Kessler all that highly to be honest
He lost every big fight he had (he got a gift against Froch)
I think it could be described as a gift
I think if that fight happens anywhere other than Denmark
Froch gets it on the cards but I don't care as I'm not a Froch fan
End of the day Ward dominated them both so they were fighting for second place.