Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Master
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GaMo
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Master
Jabs score points and landing more jabs counts more than landing one big punch.
That's your opinion and as per usual it's wrong :rolleyes:
Everyone is crying about the 118-110 scorecard
But nobody has had anything to say about the 114-114 card
Which suggests that most people think a draw was fair.
You do not read.
Everyone with any sense says the fight was close. So to have a draw is a fair opinion to have.
So if the draw is a fair opinion then what's everyone crying about? The fight was scored a draw so the guy with the drawn scorecard is the person who got it right (it matched the result)
Re: Can GGG get any better?
Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.
What is not to understand?
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Master
Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.
What is not to understand?
They scored it how they saw it. Just because their scores didn't match yours doesn't make them wrong
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Master
Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.
What is not to understand?
Ok. I believe what @GaMo is saying is if Byrd had judged it to Canelo by 1 round instead of Canelo by 8, what would the problem be?
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Primo Carnera
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Master
Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.
What is not to understand?
Ok. I believe what @
GaMo is saying is if Byrd had judged it to Canelo by 1 round instead of Canelo by 8, what would the problem be?
Yeah, glad you understand :)
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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Primo Carnera
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Master
Because if the corrupt or incompetent judge had scored it correctly GGG would have won.
What is not to understand?
Ok. I believe what @
GaMo is saying is if Byrd had judged it to Canelo by 1 round instead of Canelo by 8, what would the problem be?
In all probability the neutral judge would have given it to GGG and that is the problem. One judge has already had Canelo the winner even before the fight started.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
Apart from stepping on Jacobs foot and bundling him over whilst he was off balance, GGG has failed to hurt or floor his last two opponents in 24 rounds. He's not the puncher everyone made him out to be and he's not the fighter some made him out to be. He couldn't separate himself at the top of the division.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
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GaMo
Apart from stepping on Jacobs foot and bundling him over whilst he was off balance, GGG has failed to hurt or floor his last two opponents in 24 rounds. He's not the puncher everyone made him out to be and he's not the fighter some made him out to be. He couldn't separate himself at the top of the division.
His record is good and his stoppages show he is extremely heavy handed puncher. Stop re-writing his record based on his last 2 fights.
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He's stopped bums, most fighters have a lot of stoppages early in their careers but usually fighters step up after 10-15 fights. GGG fought over 30 bums and built a high knockout percentage because of that.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
Just because you're a Canelo fan doesn't mean you have to troll Golovkin mate. If Canelo was so much better, then surely he would have won decisively?
I'm a big GGG fan, but I also think Alvarez is a fucking elite fighter, and the real deal.
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@X I'm just saying the guy doesn't punch as hard as people make out. He has built a record knocking over bums, you can't dispute that because it's their on paper for all to see. The two top fighters he fought both took him the distance and arguably both beat him.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
Maybe, but don't forget people said the same thing about Rocky Marciano, Joe Louis, George Foreman and Mike Tyson.
All you can ask is that a fighter puts away those people in front of them, I suspect it hasn't helped Golovkin that he was so avoided for many years. I definitely agree that it's harder to knock out elite fighters, and most people's records will show that.
I think GGG is very heavy handed, and is a beast but I don't think he is a one punch kayo monster like Tommy Hearns or Julian Jackson etc.
I think it's his relentless pressure that wears people down rather than superhuman punch power.
A really good mover, who can snipe away and who has a good chin is the best blueprint to beat him. I think Jacobs showed the way, and Canelo followed the same game plan well.
Ward could have the tools to do it (but he is the dirtiest fighter I have seen in years). Micheal Nunn would also have given him problems I think.
Re: Can GGG get any better?
Ignore Gumbo. He's obligated to fuck with this nonsense hence making up bullshit about Jacobs falling over rather than acknowledge the 3 or 4 punches he ate during his 'fall'
Anyone that's faced GGG, edit, anyone magnanimous enough to talk frankly about facing GGG says he hits like a truck. Thats good enough for me and I'll take it over the ramblings of some donut on the interwebs.
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It's time to stop with the GGG avoided talk. We have years of evidence he held fights up. Clear evidence.
Ward-straight avoids saying they were focused on 160, but he looked at 168 for Steiglitz, Chavez(same time as Ward was trying to fighthim and he was focused on 160), Froch(again, same time as focused on160). GGG wanted a big check, not a big fight. Fair play but admit the obvious truth
Look at now. He clearly owes Jacobs a rematch because many think Jacobs beat him by landing more power punches in more rounds. Some even think Jacobs clearly won. But instead he is looking at yet another former WW in old Miguel Cotto. That fight is every bit as much of a f'n farce as theBrook fight was. And people should stop letting him get away with this BS. If he's the best MW, prove it, stop fighting former WWs and fight the best MWs. Don't say "we will never fight our mandatory, and if we are forced to fight him we will put it off as long as we can"(words directly from his trainers mouth FFS)
Dude is known as a take all comers guy and he is so f'n far from it it's laughable. Dude has quite clearly been picking and choosing for years.
Great fighter but has NEVER went for the hard fights. Soft ass record of his own making. He is no victim
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Ron Swanson
It's time to stop with the GGG avoided talk. We have years of evidence he held fights up. Clear evidence.
Ward-straight avoids saying they were focused on 160, but he looked at 168 for Steiglitz, Chavez(same time as Ward was trying to fighthim and he was focused on 160), Froch(again, same time as focused on160). GGG wanted a big check, not a big fight. Fair play but admit the obvious truth
Look at now. He clearly owes Jacobs a rematch because many think Jacobs beat him by landing more power punches in more rounds. Some even think Jacobs clearly won. But instead he is looking at yet another former WW in old Miguel Cotto. That fight is every bit as much of a f'n farce as theBrook fight was. And people should stop letting him get away with this BS. If he's the best MW, prove it, stop fighting former WWs and fight the best MWs. Don't say "we will never fight our mandatory, and if we are forced to fight him we will put it off as long as we can"(words directly from his trainers mouth FFS)
Dude is known as a take all comers guy and he is so f'n far from it it's laughable. Dude has quite clearly been picking and choosing for years.
Great fighter but has NEVER went for the hard fights. Soft ass record of his own making. He is no victim
Who did you have winning the Canelo/GGG fight?
