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For certain he looks totally different to the man, who punished Golden Johnson in 1 round. The power just doesn't seem there, it seems like alot of arm punching IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
He's not showing a lot of power though. I wonder why... :detective:Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBIts not finished yet mate but his defense seems tighter, and his handspeed seems slightly faster. He looks good considering the lay off.Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
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With a stream I meant loll
Thats a lot to base on mights and maybes.When it happpens...I'll believe it.Cintron had never faced volume like that,nor power and size.Williams gets hit,was he hurt?Can you honestly say Cintron would not have started to doubt himself and be effected seeing as how Williams took what he landed and walked in?Its trying to prove the impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI always thought Kermit Cintron had a decent chance, because he's a puncher and Paul Williams is very hittable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owned by YoungbloodHow in the world can you say Williams...who I am no fan of...would of gotten knocked the fuck out just 3,4 rounds in?Based on Cinton hitting him up to that point,punched means nattas if you dont stand ground behind them and have the chest to absorb in return.Martinez may not be a huge banger but he beat the same Cintron twice,ko'd him once...and still got screwed.Cintron was not launching that power and they both waited too much...but the body language was taking shape and Williams was forcing action...we will disagree here.Lets hope for a rematch asap.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Im telling you if he would of just tried to windmill Kermit Cintron, he would of got KO'ed. Kermit Cintron was releasing the power in round 4, and snapped back the head of Paul Williams.
As i said there was a reason Paul Williams was hesistant. And thats because he's never been in, with someone that powerful and that is fact.
Ohh. Did Margarito at least shave that shite mullet off in comeback ?
Have you got sopcast ?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
Paul Williams looked a tad stunned by that right hand, but we'll never know i think Kermit Cintron. Could of KO'ed him if Paul Williams tried to just walk him down, im not solid on Paul Williams chin. He was stunned by two non punches in Mitchell, Martinez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owned by YoungbloodThats a lot to base on mights and maybes.When it happpens...I'll believe it.Cintron had never faced volume like that,nor power and size.Williams gets hit,was he hurt?Can you honestly say Cintron would not have started to doubt himself and be effected seeing as how Williams took what he landed and walked in?Its trying to prove the impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI always thought Kermit Cintron had a decent chance, because he's a puncher and Paul Williams is very hittable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owned by Youngblood
Im telling you if he would of just tried to windmill Kermit Cintron, he would of got KO'ed. Kermit Cintron was releasing the power in round 4, and snapped back the head of Paul Williams.
As i said there was a reason Paul Williams was hesistant. And thats because he's never been in, with someone that powerful and that is fact.
Thats where we'll agree.Williams takes alot and can be shook...I thought Cintron would shake him and then faulter down stretch.But to me Cintron has an equally shakey mental make up under pressure.Hey...should be a draw regardless.Now there may be less pressure to force it with one a "winner".Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBPaul Williams looked a tad stunned by that right hand, but we'll never know i think Kermit Cintron. Could of KO'ed him if Paul Williams tried to just walk him down, im not solid on Paul Williams chin. He was stunned by two non punches in Mitchell, Martinez.Quote:
Originally Posted by Owned by YoungbloodThats a lot to base on mights and maybes.When it happpens...I'll believe it.Cintron had never faced volume like that,nor power and size.Williams gets hit,was he hurt?Can you honestly say Cintron would not have started to doubt himself and be effected seeing as how Williams took what he landed and walked in?Its trying to prove the impossibleQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
Margarito has hit this guy with alot of good shots and apart from the rd 1 knock down it aint bothered Garcia and he aint got a face like Cotto had... just goes to show what a difference the wrapped hands made.
DId the sopcast link go down? I switched over to UFC and now it says it is offline.
another point deduction for roberto garcia in the 10th round.
Mines not working mate? What round we in?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
its over rover....Margarito won on points ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Mines not working mate? What round we in?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Cheers Saddo, whats next for Margarito would love to see Kirkland knock him into next week when he gets out!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddoits over rover....Margarito won on points ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Mines not working mate? What round we in?Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Agreed, there is little doubt in my mind that he busted up Cotto so bad with hardened gloves and against other opponents prior to that too. Margarito is a crude brawler with little power without that advantage. He didn't put much of a dent in Garcia at all and he threw a lot of punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
To me it looks like Kermit has a serious screw loose!
First off, I thought that although Kermit had a puncher's chance, PW would win. Mostly because I thought Kermit would stand straight up with his chin out, sans any head movement. But also because the pressure of PW, would be so similar to Margarito. I thought he looked like he was on the verge of folding against Angulo too, another pressure fighter.
Even though I was biased toward PW to start with, I was really impressed that Kermit was tucking his chin, ducking low, and showing good head movement. On top of that, he came out with a better rhythm than PW in the first 2 rounds, and was countering effectively.
I don't think it's outlandish that PW got the nod though, as he was pressing and throwing more, and some judges regard that more highly than others. But I had the score at 3-1 for Kermit (seems most here forget that the partial round was scored). I gave Kermit the partial 4th due to the big right he landed.
Unfortunately, I also think that punch may have been Kermit's undoing! It seems so ludicrous to suggest this, but it appears to me that the fact that PW took that punch well and continued to up the pressure, made Kermit look for an out. Even from the first time I saw it, and more and more each successive replay, it just looked to me like Kermit leaped out of the ring. He made no attempt to stop himself, instead he ducked his head right between the ropes!
Then, "He wanted to continued, but doctor wouldn't allow him to."!? Bullshit! He laid there motionless for minutes and minutes (probably crying the whole time). Then after they had rolled him over and started strapping him, in he mumbled weakly that he was OK, and feebly flailed his arms. If he had wanted to continue, he would have angrily pushed the doctor off, and gotten back in the ring.
I think when PW took that punch, and really, seemed to wake up and get energized by it, Kermit saw visions of Margarito dancing in his head, and wanted no part of it.
If I'm wrong, then I apologize to Kermit. If I'm right, he should just retire! I guess we'll see if Kermit starts demanding a rematch...
I loved it when PW said that he hoped he was OK, and hated to see him get hurt like that, because he really wanted to hurt him with his fists! :appl:
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Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Not even close :(