No, only the good ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
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No, only the good ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
Muhammad Ali - he was a magnificent fighter and he was an icon...
Every head must bow, every knee must bend,
every tongue must confess, thou art the greatest,
the greatest of all time,
Muhammad, Muhammad Ali.
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-Don King
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Didn't Don King 'stomp' some poor guy to death in 1959.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
What a humanitarian.
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Muhammad Ali was a god, an idol and an icon. He was boxing. Any kid that had the opportunity to talk to Ali, to get advice from Muhammad Ali, was privileged. He's always given me time to ask questions, although I was so in awe that I didn't ask questions.
I learned to run backwards from Muhammad Ali. He told me about running backwards because you try to imitate everything you do in the ring, so sometimes you back up. So you have to train your legs to go backwards.
I watched Muhammad Ali, how when he would speak, how it was such a thing of beauty. It sounded so wonderful. And I wanted to be like him.
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-Sugar Ray Leonard
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"The man was good, but he was no Bob Newhart. Bob could out-think you by using psycho-analysis."
Suzanne Pleshette ......... A very under-rated sex-pot. She was 'smoking'.
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.p6Ty...Q&pid=15.1&P=0
I don't agree with much that Bill has to say........
....... but I must say I'm in total agreement with his assessment of Suzanne Pleshette.
(The picture is not bad, either). ;D ;D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
My wife was her double I remember Suzanne was in a movie playing an indian girl
We'd watched the movie had left & gone for dinner at a restaurant. These two kids came up to us & said " Can we have your autograph please" My wife said " Who do you think I am"? They said " Suzanne Pleshette " They wouldn't believe she wasn't LOL
Sir, you are a lucky man!Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom
My wife was her double I remember Suzanne was in a movie playing an indian girl
We'd watched the movie had left & gone for dinner at a restaurant. These two kids came up to us & said " Can we have your autograph please" My wife said " Who do you think I am"? They said " Suzanne Pleshette " They wouldn't believe she wasn't LOL
Who was 'prettier'. Cassius Clay or Suzanne Pleshette ?
While I do have to say, Cassius was a very handsome man. And quite possibly
the best looking of all the Professional Boxers from 1961 thru 1967.
But remember, he got fat and 'tubbed it up' in 1968.
So l have to go with Suzanne Pleshette.
Her 'prime years'> 1957 thru 1971 {Ages 20 thru 34}. > A very strong 14-Year run.
Height ............. 5' 4'
Weight ............ 130 lbs. {Later years > 137 lbs.}
Hair ................ Dark Brown
Eyes ............... Gray-Blue
Shape ............. 37 ~ 26 ~ 38
'Newharts' ....... 'C'
In my previous post I stated that Suzanne was 'smoking'.
That was a reference to her 'raspy voice' which she got by smoking {2 1/2 Packs} of cigarette's
a day since she was {Age; 18}.
She died of Lung Cancer on January 19, 2008 ......... just shy of {Age; 70}.
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.Z0i4...Q&pid=15.1&P=0
Yeah... I remember that raspy voice. Used to find it sexy. Unfortunately, didn't realize she had died from lung cancer.
Shame.....
Fun Filled Fact #1966Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
The producers of 'Batman' originally wanted 29 year-old Suzanne Pleshette to play 'Catwoman' in 1966.
Suzanne worked out for 3-Weeks straight, dieted and lost 12 lbs. for the 'promo shoot'.
But she turned down the offer, as contract negotiations broke down.
http://catwomanfan.com/en/felines/pl.../pleshette.jpg
WTF happen to this thread, I click to the last page and it has evolved to something else. Ali was the greatest because he fought the best. Kicked a prime Foreman's ass, kicked a scary ass Liston's ass, had some all out wars with Frazier. Basically he had the total package, slick boxer with heart that was in a lot of great action fights what more do you want. Yeah he may have got a few nods in close fights against fighters you liked better personality wise. You cannot deny the amount of great fights he produced, and brought the showmanship aspect to the sport.
LOL..... we got sidetracked.
Happens.
I agree, we went off the 'rails'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Back to Ali Hatin'.
Was Muhammad Ali's 'mean spiritedness', real or a show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoweoZ6jpMQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI agree, we went off the 'rails'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Back to Ali Hatin'.
Was Muhammad Ali's 'mean spiritedness', real or a show.
'Crazy Train'
"Oh, every time I hear that song, I want to tear my clothes off and dance."
Suzanne Pleshette
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...tkkZ7Pjzl-vfp2
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Lets stay side tracked. 53 years ago today.
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Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI agree, we went off the 'rails'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Back to Ali Hatin'.
Was Muhammad Ali's 'mean spiritedness', real or a show.
Although the sidetracking's not bad..... I'll answer the question, in my opinion....
I think there's both.... maybe even 50/50. I think when he went way over the top, like calling Liston a bear or Frazier a gorilla.... and even brought little toy animals to press conferences.... I think that was pretty much show. However, he probably did have some dislike for some of his opponents, like maybe even Joe Frazier, who he considered to be somewhat of an "Uncle Tom." But then he would take that and carry it to the Nth power.... and that's the part I think was more show than anything else.
He hated all his opponents if they were black. I could never understand it, nor tolerate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Bill PaxtomI agree, we went off the 'rails'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Back to Ali Hatin'.
Was Muhammad Ali's 'mean spiritedness', real or a show.
Although the sidetracking's not bad..... I'll answer the question, in my opinion....
I think there's both.... maybe even 50/50. I think when he went way over the top, like calling Liston a bear or Frazier a gorilla.... and even brought little toy animals to press conferences.... I think that was pretty much show. However, he probably did have some dislike for some of his opponents, like maybe even Joe Frazier, who he considered to be somewhat of an "Uncle Tom." But then he would take that and carry it to the Nth power.... and that's the part I think was more show than anything else.
Cassius Clay
During the 'First Reign' Disrespected
> Archie Moore
> Charlie Powell
> Doug Jones
> Henry Cooper
> Sonny Liston I
> Floyd Patterson
> George Chuvalo
> Henry Cooper II
> Cleveland Williams
> Ernie Terrell
Cassius was fairly amicable for the 2nd Sonny Liston bout.
Cassius was a sportsman for the; Brian London, Karl Mildenberger and Zora Folley 'Championship Bouts'.
You know people are talking about Ali smack talk but lets be honest this game is more mental then physical at times. Ali would do shit talking to through the guy off and get in his head before they even stood in the ring which is a pretty smart move and i do not think he hated any of them.
Rocky Marciano would split Ali's spleen with a right from underneath. split, like blood pouring out.
The answer to the question - Why all the Clay hate = Its a lot of fun.
As we have reached page 13.
fun fun fun it's a hell of a lot of fun. Fun is something that people forgot how to have in this day and age of political correctness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Muhammad Ali
Brought on the 'hate' himself.
He still wanted to follow the 'Gorgeous George Theory'.
"Just be an 'asshole' Cassius. More people will come to see you."
"People will pay bigger bucks to see somebody 'clock you in your mouth',
than to come and have 'Tea' with you."
"Just keep talking trash, and the money will flow. Fuck the ethics."
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Muhammad Ali and Joan Crawford
"It's easy to be mean. I just have to be my rotten 'Fuckin' self."
Joan Crawford
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Floyd Mayweather also uses the hate fan base who want to see him lose so he is also using Ali’s strategy.
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Uh hum, correction Master.
It is the 'Gorgeous George Philosophy'
"Now my Master. Do I have to 'straighten' you out again."
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...igEex3mjBcCi0b
;D
I knew this thread was going to be active.... but I didn't know it was going to be THIS lively.... LOL.
It's amazing how a man who stopped fighting about 2 generations ago is still capable of generating this much hate. :o
The "facts" and dirt that get dredged up on the man are worthy of any mud-slinging campaign on Earth.
Floyd has more Twitter followers :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
It is easy to 'dislike' Cassius Clay.
It is easy to 'despise' Muhammad Ali.
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"I never liked that Cassius Clay fellow. And his brother Muhammad Ali as well."
Nora Desmond
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dont think floyds that brightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
hes just a cunt and everyone hates him
does anyone like him?
Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44dont think floyds that brightQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
hes just a cunt and everyone hates him
does anyone like him?
I don't like Floyd as a person , however he is a far more complete fighter than Clay ever was.
May 1967
'United States Military Serving in Vietnam'
Voted on the 'one' person you wouldn't want in a Fox Hole next to you,
or one that you could 'not' trust to watch your back.
Guess who won hands down, with 93% of the Vote.
Cassius Clay
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"Oh, that Cassius Clay. He's such a '******'. Oh, I can't say it."
Rhonda Fleming
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Muhammad Ali 2012 Liberty Medal Ceremony - National Constitution Center
Ali has won soooo many awards and medals... and has received sooooo much recognition....
Here's an excerpt from the linked article:
"....the National Constitution Center’s 2012 Liberty Medal ceremony will recognize Muhammad Ali as a champion of freedom and as a living embodiment of the Constitution who exemplifies everything the award was established to honor: individuals of courage and conviction who strive to secure the blessings of liberty to people around the globe."
Here's a quote from David Eisner from the very same article:
“Muhammad Ali symbolizes all that makes America great, while pushing us as a people and as a nation to be better,’” said National Constitution Center President and CEO David Eisner. “Each big fight of his life has inspired a new chapter of civic action. We look forward to welcoming him back to the Center, particularly during this momentous 225th anniversary year.”
I could go on and on..... but how many more accolades can one pour on such a great man?
:D :D :D
(I just love to egg on the haters.....)
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Clay didn't symbolize America when he refused the draft , what would have happened if all Americans had done that in every war ?
He was a pathetic coward.
The Cassius Clay Management Team
Tell me something about this photo, that is striking.
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