You make out like he wasnt getting hit repeatedly. It was a joke. There was a massive gulf in class and skills and looked exactly like the OSullivan "fight" bar the corner having any sense.
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You make out like he wasnt getting hit repeatedly. It was a joke. There was a massive gulf in class and skills and looked exactly like the OSullivan "fight" bar the corner having any sense.
So what's your answer to the previous question? Oh, I forgot, you're not very good at answering questions.:rolleyes::rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
You want a response to that shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo response from what I've seen. Reason? He hasn't got a response. He's happy to talk shit about all sorts of other things he knows nothing about but chooses to gloss over and ignore when he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNicely put Al. Whats Ross' response?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
have an answer.
Who had Whyte faced? He hadnt fought anybody relevant.
Blackwell had beaten Ryder, took Saunders the distance, gave a good acount of himself as a complete novice against Murray.
He was a known quantity, had done 12 rounds and been in title fights and had won and defended a title!!! Pushed Saunders a world champ who would have you believe that Blackwell was going to do Eubank. As it happens Eubank dealt with him far easier than anyone.
You lot make me laugh! I thought the difference was that obvious it wouldnt need any pointing out and insulting your inteligence;D
You have reminded me how tough Blackwell is, remember against Ryder he was losing the fight and being out classed? Blackwell has been in some very hard fights. His come from behind victories show he would have wanted to carry on.
Shall I now do a Primon impression? Ok...
So wheres your response Primo? Havent got one because you are all full of shit;D
That wasn't the question I was talking about sap! Mind you that's another you avoided, so that's a start.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou want a response to that shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraNo response from what I've seen. Reason? He hasn't got a response. He's happy to talk shit about all sorts of other things he knows nothing about but chooses to gloss over and ignore when he doesn'tQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNicely put Al. Whats Ross' response?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
have an answer.
Who had Whyte faced? He hadnt fought anybody relevant.
Blackwell had beaten Ryder, took Saunders the distance, gave a good acount of himself as a complete novice against Murray.
He was a known quantity, had done 12 rounds and been in title fights and had won and defended a title!!! Pushed Saunders a world champ who would have you believe that Blackwell was going to do Eubank. As it happens Eubank dealt with him far easier than anyone.
You lot make me laugh! I thought the difference was that obvious it wouldnt need any pointing out and insulting your inteligence;D
When you saw Blackwell talking to Eubank Sr. After the fight, did you think to yourself or perhaps say, " he's in trouble , I reckon he's going to be in Hospital later in a coma" ?
Answer that one now you're on a roll! ππ
I didnt see any footage of him chatting afterward, just him stumbling to his corner having to be helped by Lockett.
You argue over some real pathetic shit!
There's no standing eight count under British rules (or world title rules).
This thick cunt has been told a million times but I might as well waste my time again.
"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Robert Smith backs referee and doctors over Nick Blackwell | Boxing News | Sky SportsQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
You see what you want to see. I posted this once , but I'll post it again , 2nd picture of the report. I'm fucked if I'm going to download the whole fucking programme just because you're in denial.
You, or anyone didn't think the poor guy would end up in a coma, but you expect the ref and trainer to know. You're the fucking pathetic one.
You're like them annoying ex-smokers who moan like fuck about smokers! You've laced them up, realised you were shit and lacking bottle, weren't wanted as a ref or a trainer, went judging and was shit at it, and you have the balls to blame people like Lockett and Loughlin for something that nobody could've foreseen. Fucking joker.
Dont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
I couldn't give a fuck about 8 counts, I just liked the description! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by rossDont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
for the 4th time, still don't want to answer my question? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Are you all there dopey?
Look above, I answered your dopey question:rolleyes:
No you fucking never! Do you think everyone on here is as stupid as you? I'm getting bored of you squirming now and I'm sure everyone else is. I can't be fucked with you.
Feel free to prove me wrong, numbnuts. Standing 8-count? British title rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
Hmmmmmm. I confess to not knowing the answer, but the silence is deafening! ;D;D;D
3.32 Should a Boxer go down to the floor as the result of a legitimate blow, the Timekeeper shall count off the seconds strictly in accordance with his watch. The opponent shall retire immediately to the furthest neutral corner and neither Boxer shall resume boxing until ordered to do so by the Referee.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterFeel free to prove me wrong, numbnuts. Standing 8-count? British title rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" ν ½νΈν ½νΈν ½νΈQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, βdownβ shall mean one or more of the following:-
(a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or
(b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or
(c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or
(d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising
and in all of the above cases, a Boxer shall be considered to be down until he has regained his feet within the boxing ring and is in a position and a condition to defend himself.
3.33 If a Boxer is βdownβ under the provisions of Regulation 3.32.1(a) he must return to the boxing ring unassisted within twenty seconds. In all other cases mentioned above, he must regain his feet unassisted within ten seconds. The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
3.33.1 A Boxer failing to continue with a Contest after the intervals specified above shall not be awarded any points for that round but will have 10 points deducted from his score. His opponent shall receive ten points and be declared the winner.
3.33.2 If a Boxer regains his feet in the boxing ring within the specified intervals but fails to satisfy the Referee that he is in a position and condition to defend himself, the Referee shall stop the Contest and deduct ten points from this score. He shall award the opponent ten points and declare him the winner.
3.33.3 A Referee shall have the power to interrupt the count where he considers that a fallen Boxer is in need of urgent medical attention and in such cases the opponent shall be declared the winner by a technical count out (T.C.O.).
:rolleyes:
Here in black and white http://bbbofc.com/content/rules-boxing-0
Am I right in saying the example you have just provided is not a standing 8 count?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross3.32 Should a Boxer go down to the floor as the result of a legitimate blow, the Timekeeper shall count off the seconds strictly in accordance with his watch. The opponent shall retire immediately to the furthest neutral corner and neither Boxer shall resume boxing until ordered to do so by the Referee.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterFeel free to prove me wrong, numbnuts. Standing 8-count? British title rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, βdownβ shall mean one or more of the following:-
(a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or
(b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or
(c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or
(d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising
and in all of the above cases, a Boxer shall be considered to be down until he has regained his feet within the boxing ring and is in a position and a condition to defend himself.
3.33 If a Boxer is βdownβ under the provisions of Regulation 3.32.1(a) he must return to the boxing ring unassisted within twenty seconds. In all other cases mentioned above, he must regain his feet unassisted within ten seconds. The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
3.33.1 A Boxer failing to continue with a Contest after the intervals specified above shall not be awarded any points for that round but will have 10 points deducted from his score. His opponent shall receive ten points and be declared the winner.
3.33.2 If a Boxer regains his feet in the boxing ring within the specified intervals but fails to satisfy the Referee that he is in a position and condition to defend himself, the Referee shall stop the Contest and deduct ten points from this score. He shall award the opponent ten points and declare him the winner.
3.33.3 A Referee shall have the power to interrupt the count where he considers that a fallen Boxer is in need of urgent medical attention and in such cases the opponent shall be declared the winner by a technical count out (T.C.O.).
:rolleyes:
What!?Quote:
Originally Posted by BatmanAm I right in saying the example you have just provided is not a standing 8 count?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross3.32 Should a Boxer go down to the floor as the result of a legitimate blow, the Timekeeper shall count off the seconds strictly in accordance with his watch. The opponent shall retire immediately to the furthest neutral corner and neither Boxer shall resume boxing until ordered to do so by the Referee.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterFeel free to prove me wrong, numbnuts. Standing 8-count? British title rules?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossDont embarrass yourself listening to Fenster. There is an 8 count still:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"This thick cunt!" πππQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fuckng dimwitts.....
3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, βdownβ shall mean one or more of the following:-
(a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or
(b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or
(c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or
(d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising
and in all of the above cases, a Boxer shall be considered to be down until he has regained his feet within the boxing ring and is in a position and a condition to defend himself.
3.33 If a Boxer is βdownβ under the provisions of Regulation 3.32.1(a) he must return to the boxing ring unassisted within twenty seconds. In all other cases mentioned above, he must regain his feet unassisted within ten seconds. The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
3.33.1 A Boxer failing to continue with a Contest after the intervals specified above shall not be awarded any points for that round but will have 10 points deducted from his score. His opponent shall receive ten points and be declared the winner.
3.33.2 If a Boxer regains his feet in the boxing ring within the specified intervals but fails to satisfy the Referee that he is in a position and condition to defend himself, the Referee shall stop the Contest and deduct ten points from this score. He shall award the opponent ten points and declare him the winner.
3.33.3 A Referee shall have the power to interrupt the count where he considers that a fallen Boxer is in need of urgent medical attention and in such cases the opponent shall be declared the winner by a technical count out (T.C.O.).
:rolleyes:
Read the bold. "Down" can mean standing, using the ropes. Not allowed to fight again until 8 seconds has passed.
Maybe they bring a stool in for the to sit comfortably during the 8 second duration?;D
Standing eight-count
A standing eight-count, also known as a*protection count, occurs when the referee stops the action and gives an eight-count to a boxer who has not been knocked down but appears hurt. During this time, the referee will determine if the boxer is fit to continue.
When scoring a fight, a standing eight-count is considered the same as a knockdown.
Standing eight-counts are standard procedure in all amateur bouts.
The*Association of Boxing Commissions*unified rules*state: "There is NO Standing (8) Count."
IBF,*WBA,*WBC*and*WBO*title fights do not allow the standing eight-count.
The following states have the standing eight-count in effect: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, New York, Pennsylvania and Tennessee,
Compare:*mandatory eight-coun
Well you better tell that to the BBBOC they have a misprint in their rules!;D
You do realise British fights are officiated differently to world organistion fights? Its on,y been recently that British fights werent decided by the ref!
I take that to mean that he is supported on the ropes therefore remove the ropes and the boxer will go down as there is nothing supporting himQuote:
when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself
I take that to mean that he has not gone down he is still standing unsupported but he is troubleQuote:
occurs when the referee stops the action and gives an eight-count to a boxer who has not been knocked down but appears hurt.
What are you arguing over? Its there in black and white!:p
In fact ill cut out everything other that what shows you that 8 counts still exist.
In this Regulation 3.32, βdownβ shall mean one or more of the following:-
when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself;
The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
So if a ref can stop a boxer and not permit him to box for 8 seconds while the boxer is on his feet what do you think that is?
A tea break?
Wipe those tears Ross ;) I'm not arguing, merely pointing out the difference between the ruleQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
A standing 8 count is given if the boxer does not get knocked down, at no point does anything other than his feet touch the canvasQuote:
The Referee shall not permit a Boxer to continue boxing, if in his opinion he is able to do so, until the expiration of 8 seconds following the knock down.
it may seem like nit picking but they are 2 different rules in my opinion, just spotted that you said 'what shows you that 8 counts still exist' we are talking about the standing 8 count, not the 8 count following a knock down
Its like educating pork.
The "8 count following a knockdown" as you say has always been in place. The description of when a fighter is down is very ambiguous and for the ref to inteperet. The 8 count is clearly there though and while standing so that means I win!;D
I don't see what is all that ambiguous about the rules that you were strictly quoting just a few posts ago, in fact I would say that the description of when a fighter is down is pretty clear cut
I would say that is when a fighter is down.Quote:
3.32.1 In this Regulation 3.32, βdownβ shall mean one or more of the following:-
(a) when a Boxer falls from the boxing ring beyond the ring apron as a result of a legitimate blow; or
(b) when a Boxer is on one foot or both feet and at the same time any other part of his body is touching the floor of the boxing ring; or
(c) when a Boxer is supported on the ropes of the boxing ring and, in the opinion of the Referee, is unable to defend himself; or
(d) when a Boxer is in the act of rising
End of the day it appears that you were arguing about a completely different rule to what Fenster mentioned in the first place.
But then what do I know I just watch fights at home and have never taken a punch after all :p
Lads lets stop arguing of course this brings up some strong feelings on this fight, we can not change
the fact Nick Blackwell got injured, we could blame ref corner men doctors etc a boxing match is
fight between two adults that are at peak fitness and in controlled environment(RING) with a referee
and Doctors and other medical experts at ringside.
I don't believe anybody is thick with there opinions, you say it as you see it and there are disagreements
remember lads who needs our prays and good wishes is Nick Blackwell and family and spare a thought for
Eubank Jr how he is feeling not to good lads.
The walking brain dead posts the rules that proved me right but - as Batman showed - is too thick to interpret them.
Complete and utter imbecile.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Yes you are Fenster. Your posts are getting worse and worse.
I'm quite enjoying this. :lolololol::LMAO:;DQuote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe walking brain dead posts the rules that proved me right but - as Batman showed - is too thick to interpret them.
Complete and utter imbecile.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
My posts are getting worse to you because i'm giving you a slap. Why should I put up with your rubbish? If I want to correct you I will. Simple as.
You havent corrected anything. You saw that 8 counts are still in the BBBOC rules courtesy of me having to put you straight. Slap? Thats probably as much as you have in you;)
Let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Been watching Disney you nugget?;D
Ross you do understand that you are providing an 'answer' to a question that hasn't been asked right?
Only just watched the fight. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and given what happened of course I understand that people would have liked to see the fight stopped earlier, for me though, the fight ran it's natural course. Blackwell was a league below Eubank and it showed throughout but he was as hard as nails and always game, he always gave the referee justification for letting him go on. The amount of claret on show made it look a far more brutal affair.
Jnr looked good, strong, bags of energy, good variety. I've never thought he wouldn't beat BJS in a rematch so no change there. Golovkin? Different gravy.
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Originally Posted by FensterThe walking brain dead posts the rules that proved me right but - as Batman showed - is too thick to interpret them.
Complete and utter imbecile.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
@ross you wanker ;D;D;D;D
Kessler snapping Calzaghes head violently back in round 4-5 springs to mind immediately of a fight where that simply never happened.
Boxing would cease to exist as a competitive sport if your claim were true.
How fucking long does this go on for? All I've heard about is Ronnie Corbett!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
LOL they had boxing on at the time Adam Booth. It was very good listen. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraHow fucking long does this go on for? All I've heard about is Ronnie Corbett!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master