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brocktonblockbust
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Fenster
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Dia bando
Strange bunch protesting about leaving the EU ! the Tory's are more damaging than the EU but they do nothing.
They blame people were miss lead rubbish they ignored immigration simple, they have to remember uncontrolled immigration has ruined our community.
People are not thick this has been extremely damaging to our culture and our way of life.
Enough was enough we don't have housing or infrastructure go to Wrexham AAE on a weekend see how many pissed up EU immigrants they are dealing with.
I have friends working in AAE and ambulance crew.
Not BS all true so given the chance Wrexham area voted to leave.
I was in a London A&E on Friday night with a family member. It was a complete and utter fucking joke with the amount of piss heads, druggies and time wasters. In the four/five hours I was there it was packed to the rafters constanly (literally hundreds of people).
I heard a few English speakers.
Even worse here in NYC
I expect NYC and London are very similar for these things. I would have liked a big water cannon to clear out all the time wasters and brain-sizzled that seemed to be enjoying a night out at the hospital.
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Fenster
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brocktonblockbust
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Fenster
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Dia bando
Strange bunch protesting about leaving the EU ! the Tory's are more damaging than the EU but they do nothing.
They blame people were miss lead rubbish they ignored immigration simple, they have to remember uncontrolled immigration has ruined our community.
People are not thick this has been extremely damaging to our culture and our way of life.
Enough was enough we don't have housing or infrastructure go to Wrexham AAE on a weekend see how many pissed up EU immigrants they are dealing with.
I have friends working in AAE and ambulance crew.
Not BS all true so given the chance Wrexham area voted to leave.
I was in a London A&E on Friday night with a family member. It was a complete and utter fucking joke with the amount of piss heads, druggies and time wasters. In the four/five hours I was there it was packed to the rafters constanly (literally hundreds of people).
I heard a few English speakers.
Even worse here in NYC
I expect NYC and London are very similar for these things. I would have liked a big water cannon to clear out all the time wasters and brain-sizzled that seemed to be enjoying a night out at the hospital.
Indeed. They must be very similar. I fear we have it even worse by a smidgeon.
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Last Friday 3 brazilians tried to barge their way to the front of an emergency room line in Brooklyn, one had blown off his thumb with a cherry bomb firecracker, the other two were drunks all 3 hanging out then the one got detained as his visa had expired 2011. My friends wife works there and told us one was a tranny and began spitting at the intake clerks and yelling in Portuguese. Cops took her down hard in the lobby and it was mayhem.
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I was at A and E on a Friday and their were young children suffering but did not see piss heads but it was 9pm so too early for that lot.
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Master
I was at A and E on a Friday and their were young children suffering but did not see piss heads but it was 9pm so too early for that lot.
Oh no, he said London, not Birmingham. You lot are lucky up there.
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They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.
Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.
These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.
Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.
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Easy enough to find extremely unlikeable people on both sides of the debate. Even that rag the Mail has plenty of them:
Vote Leave's Brexit campaign infriltrated by holocaust deniers and EDL fascists | Daily Mail Online
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Farage has resigned from being the leader UKIP. Mission accomplished for him.
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Re: Britain vote to leave the EU
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Kirkland Laing
They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.
Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.
These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.
Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.
On that note, pretty gutted today that Michael Foots memorial here in his home of Plymouth was defaced by EDL and BNP idiots with Swastikas and their acronyms. The Polish shops have had stuff written over them too. I know that the vast majority of Brexit voters are not of the same ilk but the bigots among us are crawling out from under the woodwork as though they think their small minded views have some how been endorsed by the majority. The Poles including my family (Polish and German Jews on one side and Romany.Irish and English Gypsies on the other) have been in the UK a long time before the EU and we will be here for a long time after.
I know what you are saying but I think you will be surprised by how many vote for the Loony left if a general election is called. Many people, including huge amounts of young people have had enough of the same old, same old, and will vote in protest even if their politics is more to the center. The tories have swung so far to the right that is the only way to redress some balance into public services and the society Thatcher damned by denying it. Don't get me wrong a lot of young people were apathetic and though wanting to remain in the EU did not bother to vote, and so they must accept their part in the decision going as it did. It might just be the wake up call they needed though. We will see.
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I agree with that, but I would also argue that the young have not really experienced much of the world and have been indoctrinated for a long time. I know I was naive at that age, and I am sure a lot of youngsters are the same way. They will be more positive towards Europe, but they have less historical perspective or understanding that there were once actually jobs in manufacturing rather than in retail. Their parents will obviously see things a little differently as will kids in deprived areas of which there are many.
I think the racism issue is being overdone, but clearly some are using it as an excuse to get physical and that isn't cool. I think the 52% are likely mostly made up of let down and frustrated people, rather than being racist. They have got twisted into being racist by politicians and media who live very easy and sheltered lives. 'Ooh look, graffiti' and then the typical Guardian nonsense about out of control societal racism. There would be no tension if immigration was controlled from the start.
Labour started it as a vote winner and it has led to social tensions and it will only get worse and it is not because of the intrinsic racism of people it is because of the unrestrained and out of control actions of politicians. Just another example of how politicians seemingly don't care about what they are doing to people.
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Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.
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brocktonblockbust
Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.
Damn that was like three months ago I painted that swastika on your door can't you let it go. It's my freedom of expression we are talking about.
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brocktonblockbust
Any douche bag who goes around spray painting and defacing should be forced to do community service, take a 90-day sensitivity and awareness class, be forced to study history and watch documentaries on relevant historical phenomena, be forced to pay for the financial damage done via spray painting/defacing, and then serve a maximum of 14 days behind bars.
Damn that was like three months ago I painted that swastika on your door can't you let it go. It's my freedom of expression we are talking about.
You are free to do it, but the owner of the door wasn't me.
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Remember people had a vote and used it the outcome suited some and not others.
Both leaders of both parties have fallen, uncontrolled immigration has ruined most of the EU as well.
The large movement of people is doing great harm to Countries, what's wrong with looking after the locals it seems to be a dirty word British.
I am feed up over giving Bevan gave us the British people the NHS, it's not
For half of fucking Europe it's ours.
I don't want to save a donkey or adopt a snow leopard, just the NHS.
In the last election if more people got off there ass to vote the Tory's wouldn't be in power.
More stupid fuckers are moaning about leaving the EU, remember most of the laws are made by comites, not by elected members very strange indeed.
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Dia bando
Remember people had a vote and used it the outcome suited some and not others.
Both leaders of both parties have fallen, uncontrolled immigration has ruined most of the EU as well.
The large movement of people is doing great harm to Countries, what's wrong with looking after the locals it seems to be a dirty word British.
I am feed up over giving Bevan gave us the British people the NHS, it's not
For half of fucking Europe it's ours.
I don't want to save a donkey or adopt a snow leopard, just the NHS.
In the last election if more people got off there ass to vote the Tory's wouldn't be in power.
More stupid fuckers are moaning about leaving the EU, remember most of the laws are made by comites, not by elected members very strange indeed.
My my, aren't you up late this evening.
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Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
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I was in the A&E from 6 not when the pubs/clubs turned out. Also, not blaming it on immigrants, just the sheer number of time wasters.
They would be better off employing people to chuck out all the piss takers.
Problem? Cut finger. Out!
Problem? Dizzy. You've been drinking? Yes. Out!
Problem? What. Problem? What problem. Out!
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Re: Britain vote to leave the EU
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Greenbeanz
Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
Did anyone ever say it would be spent on the NHS though? I know they had a daft bus with a banner that said lets spend the 350 million a day on the NHS but c'mon. Farrage doesnt decide what to spend 3 pound 50 of our money on let alone 350 million. Anyone (and there have been some) that thinks he promised to spend 350 million quid on the NHS and has now reneged is living in cloud cuckoo land.
I've left the figure at 350 million as thats what the poster said. The actual figure Im unsure of and if the people who ought to be sure are vague about it or 'dispute it' then what hope is there for us simple folk.
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Extremely unlikable is a bit harsh :D
I just thought she was funny. Clueless but funny. No matter what the occasion I've always maintained that a good percentage of people at protests have no fucking idea what they are protesting about. Or they've got a vague/backwards grasp on it.
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More people do not protest that are informed of issues than people who do protest and do not know what the real issues are.
Either way I would do her.
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Re: Britain vote to leave the EU
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Greenbeanz
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Kirkland Laing
They have bouncers on the door at Sunderland A and E on Friday and Saturday nights. Very few foreigners up here compared to elsewhere. We're capable of causing large quantities of homegrown domestic British trouble with no need for immigrants to come over here and do it for us.
Corbyn is completely and utterly unelectable. Just because a bunch of lefties pay £3 to join the Labour party and vote for him doesn't mean he can get millions of people to vote for him in a general election.
These fucking idiots made the same mistake in 1982.
Michael Foot was the same kind of right on lefty leader and said he was amazed at the size of the crowds turning up to his meetings and rallies all over the country. He was convinced he was going to win a landslide. There was a landslide result all right.
On that note, pretty gutted today that Michael Foots memorial here in his home of Plymouth was defaced by EDL and BNP idiots with Swastikas and their acronyms. The Polish shops have had stuff written over them too. I know that the vast majority of Brexit voters are not of the same ilk but the bigots among us are crawling out from under the woodwork as though they think their small minded views have some how been endorsed by the majority. The Poles including my family (Polish and German Jews on one side and Romany.Irish and English Gypsies on the other) have been in the UK a long time before the EU and we will be here for a long time after.
I know what you are saying but I think you will be surprised by how many vote for the Loony left if a general election is called. Many people, including huge amounts of young people have had enough of the same old, same old, and will vote in protest even if their politics is more to the center. The tories have swung so far to the right that is the only way to redress some balance into public services and the society Thatcher damned by denying it. Don't get me wrong a lot of young people were apathetic and though wanting to remain in the EU did not bother to vote, and so they must accept their part in the decision going as it did. It might just be the wake up call they needed though. We will see.
I don't like the racism stuff either but it's inevitable if you're going to let endless people in with no control over their numbers.
I wouldn't be surprised by how many people would vote for a Corbyn-style Labour. I already know. The Labour PLP are trying to boot him out because they've seen polling showing how many votes they're going to lose in the next election with Corbyn as leader and they're all terrified they'll lose their seats. Can't be arsed to google it now as it'll be buried under an avalanche of Corbyn articles but they did polling immediately after the referendum and they were looking at losing 25% of the people who voted for them last election.
With Labour losing their Scotch seats the Conservatives will be unbeatable until both they wear out their welcome and Labour look electable, which will mean a Blairite leader and cabinet. You may not want to hear that but it's just inescapable fact.
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Greenbeanz
Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?
It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.
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Re: Britain vote to leave the EU
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Kirkland Laing
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Greenbeanz
Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?
It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.
It's unqualified and uncontrolled that you keep posting shit here.
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File this one under 'Fe' .....because of all the IRON-y
https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarchism/c...ing_in_the_eu/
Anarchists who wanted England to remain in the EU
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Re: Britain vote to leave the EU
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Kirkland Laing
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Greenbeanz
Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?
It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.
Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say "well it's understandable" or "it's inevitable" is daft at best.
We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot
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El Kabong
It's almost as Ironic as one forum quoting another forum :p
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Greenbeanz
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Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
Greenbeanz
Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?
It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.
Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say
"well it's understandable" or
"it's inevitable" is daft at best.
We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot
Beanz history is history now is now,! we don't need mass uncontrolled immigration, the Labour market is overflowing with cheap migrant Labour. Weather you like it or not it's the truth and the locals are pissed off.
We are looking at a Britain that had enough of immigration simple.
The people that voted in areas out were saturated with migrants.
It was plain to see politicians let people down WHY because it's not PC to talk about immigration.
Hell not one gave a straight answer Do you think letting in over three hundred thousand people into this small country every year is sustainable.
Shit we can't manage with what we got now.
It's not the 50s or 60s it's 2016 immigration is a big issue.
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@Kirkland Laing
@Greenbeanz @Dia bando
Gr8 exchanges!!
School me! LOL!
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Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
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Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
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Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
The Lefty Libz love to LABEL: "racist" and "xenophobe" and "Nazi" and "KKK" etc.
Oldest trick in the book: DEMONIZE your opponent. Label him. Establish a connection in the audience's mind that ANY OPPOSITION IS A PRIORI RACIST OR EVIL OR XENOPHOBIC.
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Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European??? of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
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Dia bando
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brocktonblockbust
Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European??? of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
Donald Trump. Both simultaneously. England can be our 52nd state.
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Primo Carnera
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Dia bando
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brocktonblockbust
Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European??? of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
Yes we may not have needed to leave, ! but we have our politicians of all parties needing a good kick up the ass all of them.
Nobody expected us to leave the EU but it happened,! don't blame take charge, sort out our border it's easier than most we are surrounded by sea are we not.
General election next what do you think .?
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Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European??? of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
Donald Trump. Both simultaneously. England can be our 52nd state.
Its true, you guys are on your way to being american. We were the first to Brexit in 1776
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Dia bando
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Primo Carnera
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Dia bando
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brocktonblockbust
Rich is right. I do not doubt Beanz's whole depiction of the multiethnic beginnings ---indeed he is spot on, but this is 2016, and there is a lot LESS ROOM than there was back when the total population was a fraction of today's----WAYYYY different dynamics now. People from the regions he mentioned were FAR MORE ETHNICALLY SIMILAR and so caused FAR LESS FRICTION AND TURMOIL than the hordes of immigrants from Somalia, Iraq, Sudan, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Etc...
Yes it's about population in the UK we have about three hundred thousand Somalia's claiming to be political refugees.
Mostly young men something is a miss, anybody questions what's going on is classified a racist, that's how pathetic the UK has become.
O dear you can't say that , you want to ask a question racist.
I am NO racist but the pissed off people of the UK voted to leave we must be a Country full of racists then.?
Clearly Immigration was a key factor in the Leave campaign winning, but all the countries named above aren't European??? of course there is an immigration problem , but it is due to lack of control. Lack of actually KNOWING how many immigrants come into the country every year, Whether European or otherwise.
I would dare to suggest that leaving Europe will make little or no difference to that and indeed could make matters worse.
We didn't need to exit Europe , we needed to sort out the Border agency and CONTROL immigration.
Usually when one political party is in turmoil, the other top 1 , maybe 2 , capitalize on that. I have never in my whole life ever seen a situation where the top 3 political parties are in deep crisis all at the same time. Who the fuck is going to run this country?
Yes we may not have needed to leave, ! but we have our politicians of all parties needing a good kick up the ass all of them.
Nobody expected us to leave the EU but it happened,! don't blame take charge, sort out our border it's easier than most we are surrounded by sea are we not.
General election next what do you think .?
Not sure on this occasion why all the politicians need a kick up the ass. After all, the very high proportion across all parties recommended staying in . Usually that only happens when we vote on going to War!
If Joe Public choose to ignore their recommendations , what are they supposed to do?
as for a general election, yes, undoubtedly there will be one, but like I said, who the fuck is going to win and run the Country? The Public have shown they don't want any of them.
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Politicians sold the country down the drain for kickbacks and sweet deals for their families.
I would LOVE to kick a British politician up his or her stuffy stodgy ~ASS~
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Immigration is likely to remain the same or may even rise now we are leaving the EU. The tories have ruined this country not immigrants. A huge percentage of staff, doctors, surgeons, consultants etc are immigrants. The lie that money destined for the EU would be spent on the NHS was revealed as just that by the worm Farrage, the very morning after the vote, he has now crawled back under his rock.
And for fuck's sake. Nobody, not Farage or anybody else is going to stop qualified people that we need to do jobs from coming here. Nobody. We've been importing skilled people to do jobs Brits couldn't do since pre-industrial times. Who the hell do you think built all the 1000 plus year old cathedrals?
It's all the unqualified uncontrolled shite that can come here that's causing the problems.
Thanks for the history lesson but you are as usual just cherry picking stuff to bolster your argument. Even the most rudimental understanding of European history makes the whole British fear of immigration thing ridiculous. Here on the edge of both Brittany and Cornwall it is very clear how most things people think about Britain and England are just myths. Most of the English came from the Basque region of south west France and Northern Spain, only a tiny percentage are descended from Anglo Saxons,The English language is fairly new and actually German, French Hugenots (my Mrs ancestors) Flemish Merchants, Jewish Money lenders whose cash built many of the Cathedrals,yaddy yadda yah have been here for years. Add to that the more recent Commonwealth and Empire people from the Caribbean, India and Africa and the idea that somehow uncontrolled immigration is some kind of justification for ignorance and an excuse or an reason to say
"well it's understandable" or
"it's inevitable" is daft at best.
We have never had uncontrolled immigration that's just pandering to the basest form of ignorance. The whole take back control thing is just another smoke screen to draw a veil over the neo-liberalism that even Farage and his crew subscribe to. The borders will remain open but the money, power and control will stay in the hands of the minority financial elite. Gove and crew must be rubbing their hands in delight
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...george-monbiot
We've never had immigration on the level we have now. We have the equivalent of a city the size of Newcastle being created every year by new net immigration. This is unprecedented and just cannot continue indeficitely without some kind of backlash from the indigenous population.
What the EU does is basically provide a huge pool of cheap labour for multinational corporations that can be moved to any country to either take advantage of cheap labour conditions or bring down labour rates in areas where relatively high wages still exist. It smashes down any kind of capital or labour barriers that used to exist to protect domestic workers in high wage countries like ours. A supranational organisation like the EU is the ultimate aim of neoliberalism, a corporate-friendly organisation run by corporate servants who want to do their masters' bidding.
You may not like the government we have after we leave but you can vote to change it. It's impossible to change the EU in any meaningful way. You're just reacting to the short term result of leaving the EU without looking at the longer term picture. Any move away from supranational neoliberalism to the nation state is to be welcomed in the long run.
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Maybe I've heard wrong, but didn't Blair want to flood England with immigrants to fuck with the British working class?
Tony Blair biography reveals PM's conspiracy to silence immigration debate* | Daily Mail Online
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWV7HMy12O8
Well no one could have foreseen THIS :rolleyes:
