Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
Cottos only had the one fight at welter and he looked like a monster that'd been caged in a 140lb cell, lets see what happens come june. Wouldn't be suprised if Zab won, hope he doesn't he's a bit of a prick. Remember cottos fight with De Corely, an how those shots off Torres put him on his ass, Zabs got a decent punch too so lets wait an see, thats if its definately on of course.
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
CutMeMick thanks for clearing that up, but also look at my post now and I also said who is Cotto gonna fight besides Zab and look at the names I listed fighting each other could you respond to that as well please?
He can fight other contenders that are on the upside of their careers (regardless of the BS)
He can fight other Welters that can do something for his career.
A fighter that can bring a title to the line.
Margarito (since the fight hasn't been signed)
SSM
Cintron
Williams (since the fight hasn't been signed)
Say what you will IMO beating Zab will do nothing for him in my book, as I keep repeating
Zab is in back to back loses how can it raise his stock?He'll be beating someone Baldomir & PBF already beat?
It's like if Spinks fought Vargas after his back to back loses to SSM.....
What would it do for his career if he beat someone who was champ. at one point at 154 but now has lost back to back?
SSM has come back twice after back to back loses
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
what an odd matchup to have people questioning judahs chin
Ummmmmm....
Let's see;
Cotto: rocked by Bailey (some people say), rocked by Corely, Droped and rocked
by Torres.
Zab: droped and rocked by Bergman, droped and rocked by Millet, KTFO! by Tszyu,
rocked by Baldomir.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah has only been down from balance issues, besides the tszyu incident (although that may have been balance plus slamming his head on the floor)
:lol:
My point exactly and this is all I've been saying....
BALANCE ISSUES!!!!! ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! ;D
Excuses, excuses, excuses thats all you ever hear.....
Apparently Zabs never lost legitemately in a fight...... WTF? :(
Because of balance, focus, OR (my fav.) the wrong version of Zab showed up to fight
LMAO!!! ;D
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
with all the shit u been talking here i wanna see u say that cotto got KTFO by a "has been" after he gets KTFO ;)
dont put judah over once he KTFO ur mans ;) ;)
IF (which to be honest I just don't see it but to reply to your comment I have to pretend here) Zab does beat Cotto and as you say he KTFO of Cotto.
I will be right here to take the loss the way it's suposse to and thats by not making excuses and just accepting it.....
Which is something Zab fans should learn to do......
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
what an odd matchup to have people questioning judahs chin
Ummmmmm....
Let's see;
Cotto: rocked by Bailey (some people say), rocked by Corely, Droped and rocked
by Torres.
Zab: droped and rocked by Bergman, droped and rocked by Millet, KTFO! by Tszyu,
rocked by Baldomir.
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
judah has only been down from balance issues, besides the tszyu incident (although that may have been balance plus slamming his head on the floor)
:lol:
My point exactly and this is all I've been saying....
BALANCE ISSUES!!!!! ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! ;D
Excuses, excuses, excuses thats all you ever hear.....
Apparently Zabs never lost legitemately in a fight...... WTF? :(
Because of balance, focus, OR (my fav.) the wrong version of Zab showed up to fight
LMAO!!! ;D
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Originally Posted by SalTheButcher
with all the S*** u been talking here i wanna see u say that cotto got KTFO by a "has been" after he gets KTFO ;)
dont put judah over once he KTFO ur mans ;) ;)
IF (which to be honest I just don't see it but to reply to your comment I have to pretend here) Zab does beat Cotto and as you say he KTFO of Cotto.
I will be right here to take the loss the way it's suposse to and thats by not making excuses and just accepting it.....
Which is something Zab fans should learn to do......
ZAB IS OVERRATED
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by motorcitycobra
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
CutMeMick thanks for clearing that up, but also look at my post now and I also said who is Cotto gonna fight besides Zab and look at the names I listed fighting each other could you respond to that as well please?
He can fight other contenders that are on the upside of their careers (regardless of the BS)
He can fight other Welters that can do something for his career.
A fighter that can bring a title to the line.
Margarito (since the fight hasn't been signed)
SSM
Cintron
Williams (since the fight hasn't been signed)
Say what you will IMO beating Zab will do nothing for him in my book, as I keep repeating
Zab is in back to back loses how can it raise his stock?He'll be beating someone Baldomir & PBF already beat?
It's like if Spinks fought Vargas after his back to back loses to SSM.....
What would it do for his career if he beat someone who was champ. at one point at 154 but now has lost back to back?
SSM has come back twice after back to back loses
You do realise your talking about SSM who eat, sleeps & breaths GYM......
B-Hop, SSM, ODLH, Evander those guys are gym rats, they don't drink, smoke or have any bad habits.....
SSM lost back to back 2 times in his career......
The 1st time to Forrest who was undefeated and had already haunted him in the amateurs......
He came back and officially beat ODLH (which I don't think he did)
He lost again to Winky 'P4P' for 3 yrs. now..... Waaaayyyy above his weight......
Hes came back and won....
Zab on the other hand lost back to back.....
to a journey man and lets be honest here someone who was suposse to be like a sparring partner to him.....
He then lost to P4P #1 in the world no shame in that....
The 2 loses were in his weight on his tearms and how he wanted them.....
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
Ah! come on Sal where did you go? :(
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
CutMeMick thanks for clearing that up, but also look at my post now and I also said who is Cotto gonna fight besides Zab and look at the names I listed fighting each other could you respond to that as well please?
He can fight other contenders that are on the upside of their careers (regardless of the BS)
He can fight other Welters that can do something for his career.
A fighter that can bring a title to the line.
Margarito (since the fight hasn't been signed)
SSM
Cintron
Williams (since the fight hasn't been signed)
Say what you will IMO beating Zab will do nothing for him in my book, as I keep repeating Zab is in back to back loses how can it raise his stock?
He'll be beating someone Baldomir & PBF already beat?
It's like if Spinks fought Vargas after his back to back loses to SSM.....
What would it do for his career if he beat someone who was champ. at one point at 154 but now has lost back to back?
Margarito is fighting Williams(for the WBO title)
Mosley is fighting Cintron(because he won the eliminator) right ???
Mayweather is fighting Delahoya
Name some people Cotto could fight at 147 thats better then Zab right now.
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
CutMeMick thanks for clearing that up, but also look at my post now and I also said who is Cotto gonna fight besides Zab and look at the names I listed fighting each other could you respond to that as well please?
He can fight other contenders that are on the upside of their careers (regardless of the BS)
He can fight other Welters that can do something for his career.
A fighter that can bring a title to the line.
Margarito (since the fight hasn't been signed)
SSM
Cintron
Williams (since the fight hasn't been signed)
Say what you will IMO beating Zab will do nothing for him in my book, as I keep repeating Zab is in back to back loses how can it raise his stock?
He'll be beating someone Baldomir & PBF already beat?
It's like if Spinks fought Vargas after his back to back loses to SSM.....
What would it do for his career if he beat someone who was champ. at one point at 154 but now has lost back to back?
Margarito is fighting Williams(for the WBO title)
Mosley is fighting Cintron(because he won the eliminator) right ???
Mayweather is fighting Delahoya
Name some people Cotto could fight at 147 thats better then Zab right now.
Margarito-Williams hasn't been signed (an neither has this fight)
SMM won the WBC Interim title
Cintron is available
SHIT!! You know what I would MUCH RATHER accept Cotto fight Baldomir since he beat Zab and went the distance with PBF.
Then Zab whos lost back to back....
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Majesty
CutMeMick thanks for clearing that up, but also look at my post now and I also said who is Cotto gonna fight besides Zab and look at the names I listed fighting each other could you respond to that as well please?
He can fight other contenders that are on the upside of their careers (regardless of the BS)
He can fight other Welters that can do something for his career.
A fighter that can bring a title to the line.
Margarito (since the fight hasn't been signed)
SSM
Cintron
Williams (since the fight hasn't been signed)
Say what you will IMO beating Zab will do nothing for him in my book, as I keep repeating Zab is in back to back loses how can it raise his stock?
He'll be beating someone Baldomir & PBF already beat?
It's like if Spinks fought Vargas after his back to back loses to SSM.....
What would it do for his career if he beat someone who was champ. at one point at 154 but now has lost back to back?
Margarito is fighting Williams(for the WBO title)
Mosley is fighting Cintron(because he won the eliminator) right ???
Mayweather is fighting Delahoya
Name some people Cotto could fight at 147 thats better then Zab right now.
Margarito-Williams hasn't been signed (an neither has this fight)
SMM won the WBC Interim title
Cintron is available
SHIT!! You know what I would MUCH RATHER accept Cotto fight Baldomir since he beat Zab and went the distance with PBF.
Then Zab whos lost back to back....
Zab went the distance with Mayweather in a closer fight(but when you compare to the Baldomir fight, one round is a closer fight) ;)
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
for those clowning on how zab has been knock out,
ya'll forgetting how big a puncher zab is, and how fast and accurate he can be. the only problem with zab is deciplen.
cotto is one of my favorite now, i'll be honest...if zab comes in focus and in good shape, cotto will be in huge trouble.
cotto hasn't fought anyone as gifted as zab.
imo cotto is a good young fighter, but this fight will be decided by zab. if zab comes in prepared new and deciplen. zab will show his far better then the nuthead he has been displaying lately and that will be in the expense of cotto.
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I don't know man!!!
For the most part I/m thinking WHY in the HELL is Cotto wasting his time with Zab hes a nobody and beating him means nothing.
I won't be surprised cause I know Cotto can beat him with flying colors.....
Bad decision IMO from team Cotto thats IF this is true....
I don't know about that...Cotto could very easily make Zab do the "KT Shuffle" again....
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
I see Cotto being in over his head. He has a suspect chin as well, but Judah willl be able to hit him way easier than vice virsa... The Judah who fought Mayweather will absolutely destroy Cotto, or he will come in unfocused and get KO'ed.
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
I cant see how people think that Zab is going to KO Cotto. It isnt going to happen. Zab will look great the first part of the fight but after the 3rd or 4th round Cotto's body shots will start taking their affect and Zab will be slowly dismantled from there on. Can Zab hurt Cotto?? Yes, Zab has good power and speed, but I think everybody is underestimating Cotto's defense. The times that Cotto has gotten hurt he has been able to work through it. He was down once and that was more due to being pushed while he was hurt than a punch putting him down.
I really think this will be a good to great fight. Zab will come in prepared and ready to go. I think the biggest questionis will Zab be able to stand up to Cotto's body shots?? I dont think he will, Cotto is going to grind him down. Like I said Zab will have a good showing early but then Cotto's body shots will start having an affect and then Zab will be ground down till he gets (T)KOed.
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
I will love to see Cotto whip Zab Judah...not that it will mean much as Zab has lost a couple fights recently and just doesn't seem interested in dedicating himself to the sport.
Baldomir
Gatti
Julio
Collazo
There are fights out there for him....Judah will be interesting
Re: ***Done Deal - Miguel Cotto vs Zab Judah June 9th!***
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Originally Posted by Lyle
I will love to see Cotto whip Zab Judah...not that it will mean much as Zab has lost a couple fights recently and just doesn't seem interested in dedicating himself to the sport.
Baldomir
Gatti
Julio
Collazo
There are fights out there for him....Judah will be interesting
If beating Zab means nothing, then to me beating Gatti would mean even less.
Same thing with Collazo....
Baldomir & Julio I can see those fights being good for Cotto.