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It should also be pointed out that last March, when Pacquiao rematched Marquez in what was viewed going in as a very evenly-matched fight, Pacquiao made 5 million, while Marquez only made 1.5 million. If my math is correct, that's a 71/29 split in favor of Pacquiao. How unfair!!!
See... it works both ways.
Well I guess that solves that ;D Consider the source IMO :-X Rooster.Ask yourself this....who can Pac fight at current reasonable weight and make what he would make here in so many area's as Name ,cred,etc? Forget all of the haggling and parlor tricks,DLH carries the check book as well as the name even at this late twilight stage and if Manny & camp really want this to come off,stop playing lawyer and agree to terms.Its pretty obvious who needs who in this status grab!!
Marquez gave in because he knew he can't draw flies... PAC dumps Oscar's 70-30 split offer since he knows he's worth more than 30% share in an Oscar fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
BTW, I guess your math is not correct but I don't really care coz we don't know really the actual purse split in PAC-JMM. I'm not even sure if PAC got $5M in that fight...
Marquez gave in because the Pacquiao rematch was the fight he really wanted, and because the 1.5 million was more than he would make in any other fight. Pacquiao is facing a similar decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Again, I would ask you to look at the historical drawing power of Oscar and Pacquiao (specifically their track records with PPV buys) and then explain how Manny is worth more than 30% if he fights Oscar.Quote:
PAC dumps Oscar's 70-30 split offer since he knows he's worth more than 30% share in an Oscar fight...
PAC just want to try his luck in the Hoya sweepstakes and at the same time wanting 40% share of the purse. PAC has an ace for he knows he's the biggest money fight out there for Hoya besides PBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
If Hoya will not give his 40% (I think 35% will do) demand then PAC will just be back to his happy ways fighting the Sotos, Valeros, Hattons, Campbells, Casamayors, Marquezes, Diazes, Katsidis, Guzmans, etc.
Remember PAC dumped Oscar before when Oscar tried to be his promoter. PAC dumped Oscar again since Oscar didn't give his fair share...
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And Pacquiao has every right to go that route if he so chooses. I don't think anyone here is disputing Pacquiao's right to ask for 40%, and I don't think anyone is saying Pacquiao doesn't have the right to fight the Sotos of the world if that's what he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
We're just saying that Oscar is well within his rights to demand 70/30.
I already explained why PAC worth more than 30%, the same percentage PBF got when he fought Oscar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Oscar said PAC not worth more than PBF... I already presented why PAC is worth more than what PBF got. Since that PBF-Hoya fight, Oscar is on a decline while PAC is still on steady rise...
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Originally Posted by SweetPeaAnd Pacquiao has every right to go that route if he so chooses. I don't think anyone here is disputing Pacquiao's right to ask for 40%, and I don't think anyone is saying Pacquiao doesn't have the right to fight the Sotos of the world if that's what he wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
We're just saying that Oscar is well within his rights to demand 70/30.
Yeah, everybody has their own rights... This is already a dead issue since PAC already dumped Oscar's 70-30 offer... The negotiations is now considered dead unless somebody will make a compromise...
We'll just wait and see...
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really now? you would pay to see oscar fighting against david diaz? and danny g?...honestly now... :rolleyes: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SweetPeaThe belt had absolutely zero importance in that fight. That fight was about having the biggest star in the sport against the #1 PFP fighter in the world. The belt at 154 was meaningless. Most belts are meaningless. Oscar didn't get 70% against Floyd because he was a beltholder. He got 70% because he was the draw. That's why Oscar feels he deserves 70% against Pacquiao as well, because he would be the draw, not Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
If you're saying "nobody would buy that" about a fight involving Oscar De La Hoya, then I question how much attention you've been paying to PPV totals over the last 15 years or so. Oscar is the biggest non-heavyweight PPV draw in the history of boxing. He could fight Danny G and do more PPV buys than Pacquiao could against Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
You call a controversial win over JMM and a win over little known\ talented belt holding Diaz rising? Caught up in all the hugging aren/t you?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI already explained why PAC worth more than 30%, the same percentage PBF got when he fought Oscar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Oscar said PAC not worth more than PBF... I already presented why PAC is worth more than what PBF got. Since that PBF-Hoya fight, Oscar is on a decline while PAC is still on steady rise...
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Stop your ignorant pinoy bias not all the viewers tuned in to view PAC they tuned in to see if the hype could match the 1st fight. Pac has yet to show he has the cross over appeal to conquer the white and latin viewers. I love seeing Pac a lot but no way in hell will I pay $60 unless it is against JMM or ODLH ($40 vs Juan Diaz or Casamayor ). I would not pay a cent to see him fight Soto, Valero , Guzman) A Hatton fight sells big in 2 countries only (HBO /Showime material). Why not create a poll to see what fights those would pay to see Pac and their ethnicity and you will see it is the Philippino boxing fan for the most part that would pay to see Pac fight BOZO, Barney or Bambi .........Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerMarquez gave in because he knew he can't draw flies... PAC dumps Oscar's 70-30 split offer since he knows he's worth more than 30% share in an Oscar fight...Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
BTW, I guess your math is not correct but I don't really care coz we don't know really the actual purse split in PAC-JMM. I'm not even sure if PAC got $5M in that fight...
I would not pay but trust me few latinos paid for it either. Many women pay to see ODLH fight an angle Ninja turtle looking Pac will never haveQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserreally now? you would pay to see oscar fighting against david diaz? and danny g?...honestly now... :rolleyes: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SweetPeaThe belt had absolutely zero importance in that fight. That fight was about having the biggest star in the sport against the #1 PFP fighter in the world. The belt at 154 was meaningless. Most belts are meaningless. Oscar didn't get 70% against Floyd because he was a beltholder. He got 70% because he was the draw. That's why Oscar feels he deserves 70% against Pacquiao as well, because he would be the draw, not Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
If you're saying "nobody would buy that" about a fight involving Oscar De La Hoya, then I question how much attention you've been paying to PPV totals over the last 15 years or so. Oscar is the biggest non-heavyweight PPV draw in the history of boxing. He could fight Danny G and do more PPV buys than Pacquiao could against Marquez.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
ahhhh, those were the days before fishnets and stilletos. but i do agree, pac will never be the kind of draw oscar is... or was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxingI would not pay but trust me few latinos paid for it either. Many women pay to see ODLH fight an angle Ninja turtle looking Pac will never haveQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserreally now? you would pay to see oscar fighting against david diaz? and danny g?...honestly now... :rolleyes: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Stop smoking weed !!! Pac is not a larger draw than PBF? Pac is not undefeated or hated greatly like PBF !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI already explained why PAC worth more than 30%, the same percentage PBF got when he fought Oscar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Oscar said PAC not worth more than PBF... I already presented why PAC is worth more than what PBF got. Since that PBF-Hoya fight, Oscar is on a decline while PAC is still on steady rise...
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2 nice guys fighting to not create a demand PAC vs ODLH.. What does Pac bring to ODLH ?
Nothing but a payday? If ODLH wins he gains only his 70%, but loses in that he beat a smaller man and comes across greedy!! Pac has everything to win and nothing to lose except adding a number in the loss column
pac wins ....
* Largest stage to shine
* largest payday to date
* more credit to his legacy
So tell me how ODLH is wrong for asking for 70% and Pac is not vs JMM generating 71 % ?
hahaha depends on the number of kinky ones ......Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisserahhhh, those were the days before fishnets and stilletos. but i do agree, pac will never be the kind of draw oscar is... or was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Addicted to_boxingI would not pay but trust me few latinos paid for it either. Many women pay to see ODLH fight an angle Ninja turtle looking Pac will never haveQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisser