Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
Outside of philosophical differences between Palin and Obama, I really don't see much difference between her and the President as far as intangibles go. Considering that Sen. McCain was not tremendously popular in his own party and still pulled 47% of the popular vote, the Republicans simply need a candidate that galvanizes the party and can win 25-30% of the swing vote. I have strong reservations whether Palin is such a candidate but she brings a "star" quality similar to the Presidents that can't be learned. You either have it or don't. It is very early to speculate and I hope the President turns this train wreck around but with an economy that is stagnant at best and a sub par foriegn policy (only my opinion obviously) Obama is leaving the door open for a distinct possibility of being a one term president.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
what intangibles?
Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, Haley Barbour, these people have no chance of beating Obama unless something drastic happens. I would go so far as to say the Republicans have no chance whatsover but everybody I guess technically has a chance. Nominate Romney and pray but the chances of the Republicans winning in 2012 are slim.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
It makes me feel better that at least see some right wingers see her for what she is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvj-Xr0irhE
The "she gets picked on by the liberal media because she's conservative" line is ridiculous, every time she opens her mouth she comes off looking like a buffoon. Its not a conspiracy.
I really do hope she's the nominee though. Obama-Palin will come close to Reagan-Mondale as far as landslides go. Obama versus Jindal would be a cakewalk but not quite as much so although it would be interesting for Jindal's creepy factor. Haley Barbour ;D
Romney, while kind of slimy, at least is relatively well educated and competent so that's a plus on Palin.
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Considering that the current administration is losing much of its far left support and all together proving it doesn't have the right answers for the obstacles our country faces I am suprised in your confidence. If Obama turns things around economically, which I doubt, he will be a tough adversary for any republican. I personally am disgusted by just about every possible presidential candidate for 2012
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the far left just likes to whine, they'll vote for him.
"all together proving it doesn't have the right answers for the obstacles" , meh that's your opinion, not mine and not necessarily the rest of the country's.
People feel better about the economy than when he started, no? The absolute debacle that was the Republicans in power is giving him a bit of a pass right or wrong.
And vice versa, I am shocked by anybody who is confident of anything good happening to Republicans, whose "brand" has been shot to shit, and who appear to be parading out a hilariously weak set of candidates for 2012 to run up against a popular president. It screams landslide.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.
Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.
I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
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....yes creating jobs, how's that working out for Ol' Barry?
Who? Let me guess, he must be a democrat. And my comment was not about jobs or republicans, it was about the disjointed and incoherent speeches of one person. Anyways, I've said it before and I'll say it again. If you want you can respond to my comments about one stupid person who happens to be a republican, by picking one democrat who happens to be stupid, but it don't make Palin any less of a moron.
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VanChilds
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she brings a "star" quality similar to the Presidents that can't be learned. You either have it or don't.
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Just one comment.
You do have a point. She was a very bright star when she was first brought onto the national stage. But I'd say that star faded for many of her original supporters once they got to know her better.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
I'm retiring....but do ya want to come watch me do some salmon slaying with the family:-X.....jeeezus, enough already!!
I think its one of the best things that has happened for the republican party.They need to move on and away from this one.That 15 minutes has run its course.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
Competition for Sarah Palin :
Arizona Republican State Senator Sylvia Allen argues in favor of uranium mining on state land because our planet has managed to last 6000 years without any environmental laws, and look, we’re just fine. I can’t say enough how it’s time that we get beyond, and, and start focusing on the technology we have, and move forward into the future so that our grandchildren and, can have the same lifestyle we have, and, and, this earth’s been here 6,000 years and I know I’m goin’ on and on and I’ll shut up ... It’s been here 6,000 years, long before anybody had environmental laws, and somehow it hasn’t been done away with.
Youtube Video
I haven't watched the video but if she's attractive she could run for president.
EDIT: Watched the video, she's unelectable too.
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VanChilds
I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.
Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.
I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
Every GOP leader veers from traditional conservative policy. Any GOP candidate standing on a traditional conservative platform would be completely unelectable.
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Spicoli
I'm retiring....but do ya want to come watch me do some salmon slaying with the family:-X.....jeeezus, enough already!!
I think its one of the best things that has happened for the republican party.They need to move on and away from this one.That 15 minutes has run its course.
It was a good move for Alaska, that's what she retired from. We'll find out soon enough what her ambitions are. I kind of think she won't get too far. The "king makers" within the party surely have realized their mistake and won't make it again.
p.s. LOL Kirkland, yeah she's a knock off for Palin, isn't she? I particularly liked the part about "we've lasted for 6,000 years, so we must be doing something right" :lolhaha:
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CGM
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
I'm retiring....but do ya want to come watch me do some salmon slaying with the family:-X.....jeeezus, enough already!!
I think its one of the best things that has happened for the republican party.They need to move on and away from this one.That 15 minutes has run its course.
It was a good move for Alaska, that's what she retired from. We'll find out soon enough what her ambitions are. I kind of think she won't get too far. The "king makers" within the party surely have realized their mistake and won't make it again.
p.s. LOL Kirkland, yeah she's a knock off for Palin, isn't she? I particularly liked the part about "we've lasted for 6,000 years, so we must be doing something right" :lolhaha:
She'll make a lot of money doing speeches and books and end up on Fox News. Then appearance by appearance they'll gradually mould her slightly differently and gradually educate her on the issues and how to deal with them, turn her into somebody who appears to have a grasp of the fundamentals and then she'll run in 2016. Or she'll be completely untrainable and she'll gradually fade away.
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Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
CGM
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli
I'm retiring....but do ya want to come watch me do some salmon slaying with the family:-X.....jeeezus, enough already!!
I think its one of the best things that has happened for the republican party.They need to move on and away from this one.That 15 minutes has run its course.
It was a good move for Alaska, that's what she retired from. We'll find out soon enough what her ambitions are. I kind of think she won't get too far. The "king makers" within the party surely have realized their mistake and won't make it again.
p.s. LOL Kirkland, yeah she's a knock off for Palin, isn't she? I particularly liked the part about "we've lasted for 6,000 years, so we must be doing something right" :lolhaha:
She'll make a lot of money doing speeches and books and end up on Fox News. Then appearance by appearance they'll gradually mould her slightly differently and gradually educate her on the issues and how to deal with them, turn her into somebody who appears to have a grasp of the fundamentals and then she'll run in 2016. Or she'll be completely untrainable and she'll gradually fade away.
I was thinking that last night.Joining a network,namely Fox.I dont think that she is the sharpest knife in the drawer but is effective on camera in small doses and does ok when rehearsed with an audience.A talk show?
As far as a national stage and politics.I think she is finished.She let the marketing and packaging get in front of her substance and was force fed to the public.If the heat in Alaska was too much...she melts on a national stage again.I think she's a trivia question or a punchline now.
Re: Truth is stranger than fiction - The Sarah Palin Chronicles
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Kirkland Laing
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Originally Posted by
VanChilds
I wouldn't be so sure that the far left will follow in lock step. I made the same assumption about the far right and McCain and a lot of them simply stayed at home on election day b/c he didn't motivate them.
Ouma, Obama hasn't provided a viable solution to any of our major domestic issues. It is still early and he may get some things going but at the moment his policies are speculative or have funding issues. Whether he got a shitty draw or not on the economy is irrelevant. I don't know anyone who feels better about the economy. It is his problem now and if he can't provide a dramatic turn around he will be blamed for it.
I don't contest that the Republicans haven't provided a "sure thing" but I think the last election proved that it can easily be the guy you've never heard of. First and foremost the party needs to show the country it is back to its conservative ideals, mainly small government and less spending. The party needs to seperate it self from the way the Bush admin completely veered from traditional conservative policy. If it can do this and the current administration doesn't start providing real viable solutions then I don't think it will need a rock star to defeat Obama.
Every GOP leader veers from traditional conservative policy. Any GOP candidate standing on a traditional conservative platform would be completely unelectable.
You base this on what?